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Dec202013

The Week of the Woman in the Red Dress:You Don't Have to Bow Down to Beyonce's Delusional Supporters

Beyonce isn't stupid. She might be a morally bankrupt tool of sexists and anti-Black woman bigots, but she works hard and her team is marketing savvy. So it should be any surprise that she latched on to the controversy from earlier in the year about her statements to British Vogue about whether she considers herself a feminist. 

She knew that embracing the term would invite criticism, but almost rabid loyalty from Black feminists with an axe to grind against their White feminists cohorts. She was right.

She didn't have to actually BE a feminist, just scroll around Youtube and find a video on feminism and take a sample. She knew that among the thirsty hordes, the bar would be very low. 

Since last Thursday- DESPITE THE FACT THAT WHITE FEMINISTS HAVE NOT WRITTEN ANY POSTS ATTACKING HER NEW ALBUM - Black feminists have been on a full court press to shut down any conversation and declare that Beyonce is some kind of empowering figure for Black women. Beyonce may be a feminist, but she is also a tool for a system that oppresses Black women and girls.

If you didn't fall in line and dared to question these Black feminists, you didn't receive an explanation- merely rabid name calling and ressitations of every bad thing White feminists have ever done to them. 

Black feminists are happy to use other Black women and girls as cannon fodder in their never ending war with White feminists. -- In the same way that the interests of  Black women and girls were sold down river by the Civil Rights Industrial Complex. Black feminists are clamoring to sell our interests down river out of spite and greed.  They can't tell you how any BLack woman or girl, other than Blue Ivy benefits from riding off to war on behalf of Beyonce.

None of this should surprise you. Black feminists clearly are arguing that other Black women and girls should remain attached to the Matrix and blindly support a woman who calls them bitch, let's her husband spit rhymes about beating up Tina Turner, works with pevert and predator terry Richardson and demands that other women bow down. 

This week in the face of an unrelenting attack by Black feminists online, a group of brave souls stood up to say that they would not "Bow Down." For that, I salute you!

Black feminists are not ready to be unplugged, but that doesn't mean you have to join them as slaves in Beyonce's Matrix. 

Remember who the real enemy is and never "bow down" to foolishness, no matter how man tweets and blog posts you are bludgeoned by. 

Reader Comments (23)

So Beyonce wrote this song about societal pressures surrounding women's looks and bodies called "Pretty Hurts" and everyone thinks this is a feminist anthem, right along with the song in which she samples Ngozi Adichie. Yet, when those of us who are unplugged from the Matrix criticize what this album and Beyonce truly represent, we are called "ugly" and "jealous". Therefore, its obvious that Beyonce and her music have absolutely no influence on feminism. How are you gonna tell me I need to recognize her as a feminist icon for "Pretty Hurts" but then turn around can call me "ugly" when I don't? How are you gonna tell me "Bow Down, bitches" is a feminist anthem, but then call me a bitter hoe for not bowing down? LOL, these women don't even make sense anymore. They are indeed carrying on a like a pack of rabid dogs.

December 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKay9

Beyonce stans are a nasty piece of work. Pretty Hurts is really nothing but a less inspiring knockoff of Christina Aguilera's Beautiful. I think a lot of that passion is not actually her music but the fact that they want to be her. She appears to have it all, and thats what they are actually gravitating to. They live vicariously through her.

December 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterNaima

@Kay9. I'm sure Beyonce didn't write any of those songs. She may have a writing credit but she didn't write them.
I have started to lose respect for a lot of women out there over this album. Its not because I think Beyonce in the devil. Its because so many women are running around trying to convince all of the world that this album speaks for black American women. If you want to write a manifesto on how awesome Beyonce is feel free. Write about how it makes you feel. Don't tell me America is going to see black women through a different lens because Beyonce sang about going down on JayZ in a limo.

I'm thinking in a few weeks when the hoopla dies down and the album sales stable to normal Beyonce levels we will start to see retractions from some of these women.

December 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMichele

Feminism is nothing short of the new age chauvinism. Only difference is this time the women are the culprits. Feminism's greatest achievement is that it has successfully transformed women as a group into the ridiculous versions of men. If one pays close attention to the arguments being made by white fems, black fems, and everyone else the evidence is clear. As the old saying goes "the road to damanation is paved with good intentions". Women can't agree on what is good or bad for women. personally I lost all respect for Bey long time ago as I do with any women who degrades her herself for money or anything for that matter. Secondly if you are the queen you claim to be why not show women who are looking up to you that there are more respectful ways to market your brand instead every new song is more "ratchet" than the last.

December 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBWill82

Can I just say how many Black Feminist and Womanist bloggers out there have great minds? Like, how they really do matter in a country that is notoriously Anti-Black-Woman? I have seen Black Feminists and Womanists write well crafted defenses against Anti-BW-Misogyny ,and they still to this day. However, there is something I can't quite put into words because of how bizzare it is. My perception may be wrong here,but it feels like what we are now witnessing ,Bey Gate aside,is an uprise in liberal feminist politics that is NORMALLY adopted by White women (who can afford frivolous feminism such as “if you breathe in and out while being a woman ,breathing is feminist”) with Black Feminism. It doesn't matter what kind of ties you have with people who have not had Black females best interest at heart, and your politics don't even have to matter-You Are because of What You Are,so to speak.

Black Women have been some of the most critical women in America (well,some,not all.), we normally do NOT ,and even make jest about the frivolousness of modern-day White Feminism and how contradictory it is. I would hate to start to seeing Black feminism lose that critical eye over some unfruitful competition with White liberal Feminists. It'd be disgusting and it won't help Black girls and in fact it will hurt them—ask those White females who gave up on that kind of Feminism because it's literally a cult (much of it a sexual cult) how good it was for them and imagine the damage it could cause one of the most unprotected groups in America,who don't have anything to fallback on after they've regretted their choices. White Women will ALWAYS have their Whiteness and privilege to fall back on. Not all White women's goals are our goals---at least they shouldn't be.


Many Blackademic folks like to use every Black celebrity's choices as a radical resistance against White Supremacist Patriarchy (sometimes I think a lot of them just want hits) ,meanwhile not considering many of their readers might not be as educated and in poverty,and very impressionable (teenagers). Lil Wayne makes a song about giving women oral sex is now a Feminist expression (Lil Wayne,the one who makes disrespectful comments towards dark skinned Black women and makes sexually violent lyrics towards BW in general. Basically anybody Black gets a pass and any little thing they do is spun around and turned into “radical” and “resistance” ,or “radical praxis”. Meanwhile the people getting hit the most by other Blackademic folk's anti-critical-view of what is Pro-Black or Pro-BW are often young, poor, and have less education. This is why I do not trust every brother or sister because they will dole out some bs just to get pageviews and exposure and take their academic arses back to their nice houses and cushy jobs and let the “Lesser Blacks” sort out the garbage-water they funneled into their ear.

December 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMissIce

" how any BLack woman or girl, other than Blue Ivy benefits from riding off to war on behalf of Beyonce."

Such a simple question too.I'd love to see any of them answer this question.How has Beyonce or anything about Beyonce ever benefit black women that she is not related to?Hell,I think it's debatable if she has done much of anything to better the life of women in her family.I would never marry someone like she did and I certainly wouldn't want to expose my darker skinned relatives to her husband either.

I also think it crazy that black feminists identify with Beyonce at all.She has stated clearly that she really isn't all that black and would like to be latino or something else.She even looks like something else. If anything I think white French women should be having this conversation about whether Beyonce is really a feminists or not.Those are her people after all.

December 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTruth P.

Oh and I'm not the biggest fan of white feminists either but let's not be irrational. I have seen some black feminists call out black men in entertainment for being misogynists and get mad at white women for doing the same things.
This makes no sense to me at all.You are both calling out the same individual about the same thing.I think this comes from some black women viewing black men as belonging to them.Which is ridiculous.White women seem to be constantly on the minds of black men and are often shown as their love interest on tv.It makes all the sense in the world that they would call out black men too.

December 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTruth P.

Beyonce's personal life (which is what I hear that album was about-I haven't heard even one song)
<<<<Access to good healthcare,safe neighborhoods,healthy affirming relationships with others/allies,equal pay,a quality education etc. for black women collectively

Let's not lose sight of what's important.

December 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTruth P.

I am happy to see that you addressed this on your blog. I thought it was odd that a woman who makes money the way that B*y*nce does, and being married to who she is married to, could ever be considered a feminist, or expect people to take her seriously. I suspect that being the savvy, I-will-do-anything-for-money-type, she has found another way to keep herself relevant, and sell records (make more money without giving a damn about the damage she does). In the end, that is what it is all about. Staying relevant. Feminism, girl-power, female solidarity, has all been co-opted now as tools for division and to make a profit. B*y*nce **wins** every time we post about her, whether what we say is positive or negative. It keeps her relative. She knows damn well she ain't a feminist, but by dropping that she does consider herself one, she has automatically created division amongst a fledgling group , black feminist, which I think is intentional. There are greater thing at play here and people should really be looking at this with a critical eye. I believe that the goal, overall, was to undermine BW who consider themselves feminist. To take away hard-earned credibility. To cause division and to take the focus off of "real" women and girls day-to-day struggles. B*y*nce is not "real," she is a commodity that is bought an sold, or for better term, an ongoing marketing campaign, that is used to market other items outside of herself. I mean look at what her husband was willing to do, despite the fact that he KNEW what was going on, but wanted to press forward until he was called to the carpet by other BM. Look at the tremendous effort that went into that! They will do anything to make money and remain relevant. Arguing over her is like like arguing over a fictional TV character who is engaged in an adulterous affair with the President. Who wins in these arguments? Not anyone doing the arguing and it takes energy away from the real issues that need to be discussed and acted upon, that are always addressed and acted upon on this blog, like the safety and protection for BW and BG.

I do not purport to be a feminist, nor do I pretend that I am some sage, but I **can** see clearly what is going on here with the "B*y*nce is a feminist" nonsense. It's been rightfully said that no one (person) woman makes a movement, but one (person) woman can be used to bring one down. All it takes is one divisive topic, and I believe that this is it.

In all honesty, I say let's remove her name from posts/blogs/articles on the topic of feminism because proper name mentions help her to remain relevant.


I understand sisterhood solidarity. I support other women and I am beginning to see how little things are used to keep us bickering at each other or used to break up our solidarity, like religion, sexual orientation, educational achievement, personal choices, or some other divisive thing.

I understand sisterhood solidarity, I do, but in this case, it does not benefit us to get behind this nonsense.

No sane person can see her as a feminist.

No one song makes her a feminist, nor an album, or an outfit. She is being used as a tool to cause division.

People are paying attention to these grass root movements within the black feminist (BW/BG interests) community and it is making some people VERY uncomfortable. Uncomfortable enough to try and use a BW to sabotage other legitimate BW/BG interest advocates. She is owned by her label and her contracts. Her loyalties do not lie in OUR interests, despite the fact that she is a BW with a black daughter. People do change, but let's look at the actions of those she keeps close to her, starting with her husband and her father.

This should have all been a non-issue. How did it get this far?

December 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterNina's Daughter

Well, I also went 'round and 'round with some sisters about whether or not Bey is a feminist. Perhaps she is, that's not for me to say. But, if a woman (or man) is a feminist, then one question comes to mind -- WHO THEN ARE YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO?

I asked one young sister, "If Bey is an feminist, how much does she pay the women (and men) who are her hired help?"

After that question, all I heard was silence. :)

December 23, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterrevmamaafrika

Beyoncé. Bottom Power, Bread and Circuses. The Woman in the Red Dress. These are good critiques. Can you explain the literal meaning of the girl in the red dress that's referenced in 'the matrix'? Do you mean how some black women get distracted by the lifestyles of the rich and famous. And they don't realize that just because a black person is famous or sucessful, doesn't mean they're any kind of role model.

December 23, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterkia

Beyonce, unfortunately, has become the symbol of young Black womanhood (20 & 30 somethings in particular). Too many Black women embrace and support her and see her as a role model. As a Black man who doesn't really identify with today's Black culture... I find her annoying and repulsive. Everything she stands for is antithetical to positive values.

The celebration of drug dealers and thugs is where she has done some of her greatest damage.... not to mention the dancing on stripper poles in lingerie. A good example for Black women and girls? I lost all respect for Michelle Obama when she gave Beyonce her full endorsement as a role model for the first daughters. That was like the official stamp of approval for this dimwit. Now you have millions of Black women and girls who are following her lead. She is a big part of why I don't see myself ever having an interest in... or dating any Black woman. Not that Black women are inherently bad.... but it has to do with the fact that so many have been poisoned with all the wrong values. I find that my values, interests, and world view... never intersect with that of at least 90% of Black women. So instead of the Stephen R. Stafford's, Neil deGrasse Tyson's or Andrew Koonce's being celebrated as the ideal for Black women and girls, Beyonce (and company) has helped to program Black women and girls to chase the Lil Waynona's, 50 cent's, the rapper thugs and drug dealers and to hold them up as the ideal men. This is doing the most damage (untold damage) to Black women and girls...and by extension.. to the so-called Black community as a whole. Why can't Leona Lewis be seen as the role model for young women to look up to? I could think of a whole host of other female performers of color who would make better role models (and who are actually more talented). But they don't shake their butts in lingerie or dance on stripper poles on stage so they aren't celebrated.

Beyonce is more than just an "artist" (I use that term loosely..... I always saw her as a glorified video vixen...with a decent voice AT BEST. She's trash). The reality is... she represents a set of values.... and at least a generation of Black women (whether you like it or not... she is your face to America...and the world...and the majority of Black women affirm that with their overwhelming support of her).
May sound crazy.... but one of my dating golden rules is... I won't date anyone who listens to.... (is a fan of) Beyonce... goes to her concerts...any of that. I won't do it. Same with rap music. When I try to explain this to Black women.... the typical reaction is hostility....accompanied by proclamations that I must not be Black.... or that I am an uncle Tom *******.... just a corny guy..... etc.

"A thug's what I want
A thug's what I need
Even though my friends don't seem to see
That he lace me with money
He knows when I want it
And I'm never gonna leave my baby
My thugged out no good baby" -- The Goddess of Black Culture, Beyonce on the chorus of the Song 'Thug Love'.


As the "Black Community" continues to crumble... I will continue to be amused by all the confused Black folks... asking why.

And the whole feminist thing? That's just a joke. I can't stop laughing on that one. She's as much a feminist as Al Sharpton is a tireless advocate for Black women and girls.

December 24, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMr. J

Thank you for this post! I really try to be neutral about Mrs. Beyonce Knowles, but it's extremely hard given the attention that she gets when she simply sneezes. For the life of me I can't seem to find any substance in her lyrics or lifestyle that earn her the praises of being a feminist and role model. I do admit that the woman is a hard worker who constantly has something in store for her fans. However, that may be the reason why her work IMO lacks much substance. But that's just my opinion. There are millions that would vehemently disagree with me.

Anyway since I have no interest in the feminist title, I can't bring myself to think too deeply if she is or isn't a feminist. I was deeply disappointed in quite a few of Black women in the media that I admire, most notably Melissa Harris-Perry, and their over the top adulation of Beyonce's latest album. I am of the mind that some of Beyonce's work and that of her husband's is damaging to Black women and the Black community in general. I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but I believe that is exactly the reason why those two are given so much media attention and "power." If the messages that they were imparting in their work were actually empowering to Black people, those two would have disappeared from the spotlight long ago.

I can't wait until those two are no longer relevant.

December 25, 2013 | Unregistered Commentersaadiyah

@ Mr.J , keep on trolling. Your above statement regarding your disdain for black women has been noted. Using "Beyoncé" as a excuse to dislike black women is clearly written in your statement, this blog is not gear toward men with passive aggressive tendency. You are not concern about black women period.

December 26, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterL.Higgins

@ L. Higgins..

How is my statement an excuse to show disdain towards Black women? Not what i'm doing at all. I'm commenting on the FACT that there are so many Black women/girls who identify with this woman...adore her and treat her as God incarnate. I am commenting on the fact that she has become a role model for, and symbol of, Black American women.... someone who young Black women are emulating.... which is NOT good for Black women/girls or the Black community. These are the actions of Black women. I didn't do it.

What I would actually like to see is more Black women standing up and saying... "Hell no... we don't like Beyonce... we don't like what she stands for.... I am not Beyonce.... Beyonce does not speak for me.... I stand for a different set of values.... we don't like thugs, rappers, drug dealers, jail birds... we are worth more... we desire something better.... we value education... we value upstanding, responsible, intelligent...family men... our worth/value is in our brains and hearts... and not just in our bodies/sex".

But I rarely see that from Black women. In fact, I can't recall a Black woman that I know of.... ever rejecting what Beyonce stands for (with the exception of a few WAOD postings). 9.5 times out of 10... Black women are endorsing/embracing Beyonce... (not referring to only her music.... but specifically her values/worldview). It is embedded deeply in the culture so it's not going to change anytime soon. As someone here mentioned... young women don't just like the music... instead..they actually want to be Beyonce.

It's not just Beyonce.... but she is the ultimate archetype and has a huge impact on the Black community. Even the so-called "good" Black women that I run across are almost always Beyonce devotees.
It's a value system that i'm referring to (tied to the hip hop culture.... which has become the defacto Black culture in many ways) more than any specific person(s) ). Beyonce is simply the example that encapsulates almost every aspect of the problem.

I was just pointing out that it makes it very difficult to run across Black women who have not been impacted by this..... women who don't have a warped view of what makes a good man.... what makes a good woman... how to value themselves (what part of them has the most value etc), how to carry themselves... etc.

Like I said before... whenever I mention this to Black women.... the response is always some kind of push-back... or getting cursed out... .... it's the typical response.

THIS is part of why I have never really been compatible with most Black women. If you are a guy who doesn't identify with the Hip Hop culture at all... then you will be incompatible with (at least) 90% of Black women.

I actually wish there were more Black women who were dateable/marriageable.

Black women should be talking to Black women.

These are the only things that I was pointing out.... not here to hate.

December 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMr. J

@ Mr. J. keep on trolling. As I stated before, your disdain for black women has not change. Keep on digging a hole for yourself. This is my final reply to you, I have the greatest respect for Blogmother Gina and I will not reply again to your rubbish.

December 30, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterL.Higgins

What I love about your writing on this subject of Beyoncé's "feminism" is your insight and clarity of thought. You make anyone with any degree of intelligence and context halt in their tracks. Anybody who tries to dismiss you here is clearly not paying attention. There is not only a real point of view in WAOD, there is original thinking, conviction, intelligence and also, bravery.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterPeter Bond

When I was single, I never had a problem finding BW who were dateable. Dating can be a challenge at times, but just like when BW complain about how there are no good BM available, I get irritated when BM say the same thing about BW. Even though I listen to some hip-hop, I can't say that I truly identify with hip-hop culture, and I had no problem finding a good BW to marry.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBK37

@Mr. J

Your initial post echoed a complaint from one of my friends. Like yourself, he WANTS to marry a Black woman, but too many of them he's encountered aren't interested. Such women flock to the Lil Waynes and Jay Zs and give the cold shoulder to Black men with Jackie Robinson-level moral standards. In short, they are stuck in the "Beyonce Matrix."

By contrast, White and Asian women my friend's chatted with would marry him on the spot. They are frankly impressed that he's man with a PhD, his own house, no debt, no kids, and a six figure job.

(Before I get flamed, I am not saying that every Black woman chases after woman-hating thugs. There are Black women like my wife who have self-respect and are thus more discriminating in who they marry. Yet, I've talked with enough single Black men to know that Mr. J's experiences are not uncommon.)

To change this tragic status quo, Black women must publicly reject Beyonce and her ilk just as Black men must reject the Lil Waynes. We need the likes of MC Lyte who blasted the rap industry, including female singers, for creating a culture that demeans Black women:

http://twitchy.com/2013/10/16/mc-lyte-delivers-powerful-message-to-rappers-and-women-at-bet-hip-hop-awards/

Or Rashida Jones (daughter of Quincy Jones) who encouraged female singers of all races to stop demeaning themselves with skimpy outfits and "leave something to the imagination":

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/10/21/Rashida-Jones-Leave-Something-to-the-Imagination

For too long, we've given Black entertainers a pass because of their skin color, fame or both. As a result they've been free to create a culture that has caused Black families and even communities to collapse.

This must end now. We have no other choice.

December 31, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterFred

@Mr.J

I respect your opinion which comes from your experience and I appreciate your point of view. I have had similar experiences and happen to agree with the majority of what you shared. My only concern is that you have not encountered "90% of black women" to make your generalization about black women and their love for this entertainer or thier love for thugs, etc. You can certainly say that 90% of the women that you have personally encountered have these attributes, but not all of them. My point is not to lump the majority of black women into this category because you couldn't have possibly encountered 90% of the female black population across the US or world. There are plenty of black women who share your opinion on the state of black culture in the US, but they may not all be concentrated in your local perimeter...and because of this, you should not write off a whole race of people. Food for thought.

January 3, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLynn

Beyonce has stomped on and drop-kicked more Black women on her way up the ladder to success than anyone in recent history, including Diana Ross.

Oh yes, I said it.

Many of us remember all of the Destiny's Children Left Behind--LaToya, Farrah, Latavia. How Michelle fell on stage and Beyonce walked right over her prone body as if she were a homeless person laying on the sidewalk. And she actually stepped on Tina Turner's foot when they performed together onstage (Tina's chill, but Miss Ross would have knocked Beyonce head first into the orchestra pit and kept it moving for that alpha power move).

But what really turned my stomach was the whisper campaign against Jennifer Hudson performing at President Obama's 2008 inauguration. Jennifer was Obama's Chicago homegirl, but SOMEONE started whispering about how her family tragedy might mar the memory of Obama historical moment.

Hmmm. Sure enough Beyonce and her seabiscuit hair bogarded their way to the microphone.

THROUGH!!!

Feminist? LOL Lord help 'em.

Unh unh, baby. If it's not about Beyonce, it's not about nothing.

January 3, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDonella

A number of years ago, a construction site near my home was covered in a pop star's poster. I never really looked at it directly. I saw blond, white skin and assumed it was Brittney Spears.

One day, I stopped and looked at it full on. I realized it was Beyonce. The poster was for "4".

I never liked or disliked her. I can see why she is entertaining, but am still ambivalent.

That poster made it clear to me that holding her up as a representative of BLACK womanhood is insulting. I truly felt like the kid pointing at the naked emperor.

January 6, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermeh

i didn't even get into the beyonce, feminism thing cuz i have no idea what they're all talking about and don't care.

January 7, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterpumpkin

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