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Tuesday
Nov062012

Your Election Opening Thread

I already voted during early voting, which I never have done for presidential elections. I actually like going to the polls on election day. I think I was so tired of hearing about the election, I decided to just get it over with. In any event, I have never had to stand in a line as long to vote for anything. 

I want to thank CNN for bleeping out the word b*%%& at this election rally performance by Jay-Z, unfortunately they left in H(*%. Yep. Yep. Yep. 

Happy Black Woman has an interesting post called Be the President of Your Own Life

I quit the internet for about 96 hours. 

 

Reader Comments (26)

I think I was so tired of hearing about the election

This was primarily why I participated in early voting, which thankfully wasn't painful, especially compared to others' experiences.

I stopped watching much TV a few years back, and don't regret it. Especially news media because every.single.thing is analyzed and turned over 100 times for the sake of a story. I'm looking forward to November 7 and beyond. Make that November 8 and beyond. The 7th will likely be the minutia of why said presidential candidate was or was not elected.

I won't bother watching the Jay-z video.

From the Happy Black Woman blog, I agree about "voting hysteria." I recall having a major issue blow up at my then-job back in November 2008, and I made a generic comment on a person's blog that I used to frequent. I then received a personal e-mail because the blog host was in disbelief that I wasn't having the BEST.DAY.EVER because President Obama had been elected. Apparently, his election was supposed to immediately impact my daily life and render any problems meaningless. Girl, bye. People lose their minds during election years.

November 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDaphne

Astounding. And this is how Jay-Z felt he could best represent the President and First Lady? Not too bright.

I'm also amazed at how two days before the election DL Hughley could release his book where he states that he doesn't like Black women (including his wife and daughters) and Denzel Washington would participate in a film that horrifically stereotypes a Black male hero as a cracked-out drunk who hates his Black wife. Black men demonizing Black people two days before the re-election hopes of the first Black President and his Black wife and kids.

Vote whichever way you want, but Black men never cease to amaze me.

November 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAJ

Yeah, when I heard that Jay-Z was performing it really helped assuage any guilt that I had about voting 3rd party. I strongly disapprove of anyone who gives Jay-Z's poison a platform, especially when it's the POTUS.

November 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterZoopath

I voted early this morning. I waited until the last minute to decide whom I would vote for this time. When I got to the voting machine I decided to write-in my choice for president, instead of picking from the choices provided on my ballot. Although from the choices provided I would pick President Obama over Mitt Romney, I decided to vote my own self-intrests instead. My only envolvement this election year was attending a rally that Michelle Obama head lined at Hampton University over here. My daughter wanted to see her, and I'll admit that I kind of did too. I've struggled this year with my more cynical associates who try to convince me not to participate in the political process. However, I have yet to be convinced that you can demand social change without an effective political arm. Until I am convinced otherwise, I will carry on smartly.

November 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterKim in VA

JayZ is around, what, 45ish? He's too old for this crap and should really know better. *sigh*

Moving on, I agree with the Happy Black Woman blogger. That is the attitude I had in 2008 during Obama-mania. Regardless of who won, I still had to get up and take my son to school the next day and continue to live my life. The same thing applies now. At the end of the day, the only person responsible for my happiness and well-being is me.

November 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMommieDearest

I voted my conscience and pulled the lever for Jill Stein. I had no compelling reason to vote the corporate candidates.

November 6, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMonica

My uterus said Obama. And my son needs to be on my health insurance. I couldn't afford any symbolic votes. I am an old style liberal. I believe in a big Swedish style welfare state. But since that won't happen in this country, I will settle for what's best for my gay friends and family, my aforementioned non-government occupied uterus and my 22 year old who works part-time hours at Walmart and needs prescription medicine.

November 7, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDonnadara

My life as a black woman will not be impacted by a person of color in the White House; (African father, white American mother).

I have issues with the Democratic party in that many of their policies perpetuate the white liberal assumption that blacks are inherently inferior. There is no government program that will create strong families. (see Chicago's 2012 murder rate to date; who's killed by whom)? I am a conservative, not a Democrat, nor a Republican. I was so angry the current VP said on the campaign trail that the Republicans, "trying to put y'all back in chains" and that comment got a pass. WTF?

November 7, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterVinindy

I was and am excited to have a person of color in the White House. It is a great visual for millions of children to allow them to see that they too can be President. I always felt like a fraud telling my children that was a possibility in the past. I loved the picture of the little boy rubbing the President's head to see if his hair felt the same as the boy's.

November 7, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterdonnadara

"I was so angry the current VP said on the campaign trail that the Republicans, "trying to put y'all back in chains" and that comment got a pass. WTF?"

*record scratches*

WOW!!! I hadn't heard this. Now I have to google. But it doesn't surprise me. Joe Biden oozes sleazy used car salesman. This is the same man who threw Anita Hill under the bus during the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, who lied and said the truck driver who was involved in the car accident that killed his first wife was drunk, who said Obama was "nice and CLEAN"..... I don't trust him (or ANY politician, for that matter) any further than I can see him.

November 7, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMommieDearest

Donnadara, if you want socialism, move to Sweden. Oh wait, they have strict immigration laws. It is not my responsibility to take care of anyone that is not in my family, no one is entitled to the fruits of my labor.

November 9, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterVinindy

@Vinindy

I hear what you are saying but everyone needs a little help sometimes and a lot of people don't have family to rely on. I can use myself as an example, I'm a first generation college graduate. If things get tight financially, there's really no one for me to call on. Members of my family are living from paycheck to paycheck sometimes relying on payday lenders to make ends meet. Mind you these are people who work 40 to 50 hours a week and rent inexpensive houses and apartments. Most of their cash for the month can end up in their gas tanks because in the country you have to drive to work. There is no public transportation system in the country.

November 10, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMonica

It took me all of 4 minutes to cast my ballot. I voted for Obama, all of the local DC referenda to get rid of felonious city politicians, all the whites running for local office, and I'm pleased with my results. I am also glad that Marriage Equality was achieved by popular vote in Maryland and that black people were pivotal in that decision. It's bittersweet that in this day and time Civil Rights are being put to popular vote, but I'll take the victories where I can get them. 2012's election is definitely one for the history books as we have a Hindu representative, a disabled woman vet representative, and our first lesbian Senator and Allen West got sent home!

YAY Election 2012!

November 10, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

Monica, we can agree to disagree; and as unpopular and politically incorrect as it is, other people are not entitled to the fruits of my labor. I am the government and am increasingly angry that my money is taken by force to support lifestyles that I don't agree with. My options are to accept it, fight it or move to another country and take my money with me. I am leaning towards number 3.

November 12, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterVinindy

@ Vinnidy, Love it when people say the President is socialist. Define socialism and explain to me how the current government is socialist. A welfare state and socialism are not the same thing. And this government is neither.

November 12, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDonnadara

I'm trying to figure out what Denzel's movie has to do with demonizing black men. For the record, I saw Flight and enjoyed it. It wasn't about Denzel's character "hating his black wife" per se. He was an alcoholic, a coke head, and was pretty much at rock bottom all the way around.

At any rate, I also voted early down here in Georgia, and I'm so glad this election is over.

November 12, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDJ Sniper

@ Vinnididy, feel free to move to India where the largest concentration of poor people in the world live. I'm sure you can hold on to plenty of your money while you step over blind beggars. Enjoy.

November 12, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterdonnadara

@MommieDearest

I amazes me the President even considered Biden as VP after that crack about him being shocked that a Black man like Obama could be clean and articulate. What's worse were the Black people who twisted themselves in knots to justify Obama's pick.

I don't think Black Democrats would have given the first "first Black President" (Bill Clinton) such a pass.

November 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFred

@Monica

Yes, we should clothe the naked and feed the hungry, but you use your own money to do. That is the moral way to accomplish that goal.

However, when you vote for lawmakers to take hard earned money from someone's pocket and give to someone else, that's stealing. Last I checked, stealing is immoral.

Naturally, socialists who promote "economic justice," "spreading the wealth around," and the like aren't going to be this honest. If they did admit to being thieves, their only supporters would be muggers and drug dealers.

So, Vivindy has every right to be angry when the government tries to pick her pocket.

November 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFred

@ Fred, since you are such of fan of Christianity interfering in public governance, while don't you check out this link about what the Bible has to say about the government and charity?

http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/1/post/2012/05/individual-charity-isnt-enough1.html

November 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDonnadara

From the Encyclopedia Britannica:

socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members.

I don't see the government in this country trying to take ownership of all property and natural resources, nor is that what happens in Sweden. I wish people would stop misusing this term.

November 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDonnadara

@Fred

The government does not steal from anyone, it requires it citizens to pay taxes. Now if people want to reform the tax code, that is one thing but to accuse the government of stealing is something else entirely and trivializes the experiences of people living in countries where they are truly exploited by their governments. Trust me, if you ever lived in one of those countries, you would be begging to come back to the US. Yes, we should clothe the naked and feed the hungry and as citizens, we should also pay taxes.

November 13, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterLL

ignore poor poor white Fred who pretends to be black until someone catches his lie
Poor Fred who thinks black women are so stupid that they will vote against their own interests
Poor misguided Fred who compares the nonsense elected republican officials say, to celebreties who happen to vote democrat
Poor poor fred, who cannot ever present a fully fleshed point without descending into rhetoric and nonsensical witherings

Your candidate lost Fred, your team lost.
Your team lost because the majority did not buy their rhetoric. The majority refused to overlook their blatant racism and because they pandered to people like you (old racist ill-educated ideologues white men with an over arching superiority complex)

Every time you post, it is to tell 'us' what we should do, what you think is wrong with us, and to push your view or vision, even when it debases us, you defend it behind your cloak of 'christian values'

Its time for you to learn to read actual policy instead of spouting your fox-newsi-fied nonsense and also time to stop abusing christianity with your own evil twist.

You backed the wrong candidate, the sky has not fallen. Be a man (if you really are one) learn the folly of your ways and stop spreading your ill reasoned, ill-educated doom, gloom fear and tyranny. It and you will never succeed.

Black women are not the bunch of gullible morons you think we are. We can read now, we can deduce now, and we know what is right for us. We know how hard we have fought to get where we are today when people like you fought to deny us or our friends access to grants to further our education, help build our businesses or help feed the kids down the street.

We know what happens when people like you back laws which see people in our neighbourhoods suffer and begin to turn on themselves.

People like you would rather see us slave away as cooks in your private kitchen working for peanuts whilst you vote to stop any program which might help us build our own catering businesses and charge a fair price for our work

People like you would have decried nina Simone for stirring trouble with her black songs whilst urging us to instead listen to Ted Nugent for words of wisdom.

People like you are so engrossed in your overwhelming racist paternalistic trolling of black women and people you can't recognise the evil of your doings.

You lose. we is free.

November 14, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterab

@LL

It's stealing if the government taxes one group of Americans more harshly than the others.

Here is info from the IRS on who pays their "fair share":

If you listen to America’s political hacks, mainstream media talking heads and their socialist allies, you can’t help but reach the conclusion that the nation’s tax burden is borne by the poor and middleclass while the rich get off scot-free.

Stephen Moore, senior economics writer for The Wall Street Journal, and I’m proud to say former GMU economics student, wrote “The U.S. Tax System: Who Really Pays?” in the Manhattan Institute’s Issue 2012 (8/12). Let’s see whether the rich are paying their “fair” share.

According to IRS 2007 data, the richest 1 percent of Americans earned 22 percent of national personal income but paid 40 percent of all personal income taxes. The top 5 percent earned 37 percent and paid 61 percent of personal income tax. The top 10 percent earned 48 percent and paid 71 percent of all personal income taxes. The bottom 50 percent earned 12 percent of personal income but paid just 3 percent of income tax revenues.

http://www.dentonrc.com/opinion/columns-headlines/20120901-walter-williams-do-rich-pay-their-fair-share-of-taxes.ece

People would be justly outraged if Black women were taxed more than Black men. Yet, this is exactly what happens when the government use taxes to punish Black businesswomen who make "too much money" instead of staying in the bottom 50% income bracket with other Black people.

Does that sound just and moral to you?

So, my original argument stands about socialism being stealing. Black business owners like Vivindy have every right to protest their robbery by the government.

November 18, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterFred

@Fred

I'm not disagreeing with the suggestion that there is a need for changes to be made in the tax code. However, your choice of words is still incorrect. A government taxing its citizens according to the law is not stealing. Furthermore, the United States is not a socialist country. It's hard for anyone to listen to the substance of your argument when you make such inaccurate statements.

November 19, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterLL

@ Fred, your arguments don't make any sense. You are only including federal income taxes and not the disproportionate amount of sales taxes that poor people pay. Not to mention state taxes, city wage taxes, basically any taxes that are based on wages or purchase of services. And you are not acknowledging the real definition of socialism which is not lining up with your rightwing definition. I have to agree with LL, I can't hear you over your political ideology.

November 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDonnadara

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