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Rowan Towers Story Goes From Outrageous to Psychotic - "If you had a gun pointed to your head, you wouldn't be able to do nothing, either"
Friday, April 9, 2010 at 8:28AM
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Hat tip to WAOD reader AJ from Overanalyze It I said I wasn't going to write about this story anymore this week unless somebody said something REALLY STUPID. Well let me introduce y'all to stupid... the STEPfather of the alleged 7 year old victim. Notice I have to throw alleged all up over and through this post now since once again we appear to be destined for the crazy train.
In another example of why people with children should think 5 times before they shackle themselves to someone else, the "stepfather" of the 7 year old girl that was allegedly gang raped is now coming to the aid of 3 defendants. . . one of whom has admitted to having sex with the 15 year old girl who is this man's BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER, an act which apparently constituted statutory rape. Mind you, this man is the father of the 15 year old accused of selling the little girl.
Really? Really? Which daughter is he speaking about. the 7 year old or the 15 year old MEDICATED person sitting in juvenile hall for selling the 7 year old?
Now am I crazy OR is this man saying its okay to watch a 7 year old get gang raped as long as you weren't participating. THIS IS THE MAN WHO IS MARRIED TO THIS CHILD'S MOTHER! Stepdaddy. Why don't you leave the defending to the criminal defense attorneys and you be about the business of figuring out how to rescue YOUR OWN DAUGHTERS! One is traumatized and the other is sitting in juvie.
Did I tell y'all I was too through?
We have our first statement from a suspect's mother and lawyer. Its your standard reponse:
Um Maam. Ms. David. Your son is a fully grown man. Furthermore, your son has already ADMITTED to statutory rape by admitting he had sex with the 15 year old girl. And tell me that the prosecutors were not this dayum stupid
Again, why was this little girl at the mayor's office and being paraded around Trenton with a pending criminal investigation. I've read a number of articles where people are describing this child and speaking about having met her at various functions. Why was this allowed to happen?
I interned at a center that treated children that were the victims of trauma. All kinds of trauma, but some were the victims of sexual abuse. The training they make you go through is horrific. I'm still scarred from having to watch a interview between a child psychologist and a 5 year old boy. Needless to say, they traumatized you to make the point that under no circumstances were untrained people allowed to speak to the children that were treated there because it might compromise the criminal case. Why is everybody and their grandma having discussions with a 7 year old crime victim?
If this child is the key witness in a criminal case this serious and she is surrounded by people who are compromising the criminal case, then perhaps she needs to be in the custody of people who have half a gnats brain. She's living with a man who is probably telling her that the suspects in custody didn't commit the crime. Do you think a 7 year old is gong to disagree with her mother's husband?
Where is the 7 year old's BIOLOGICAL FATHER?
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In another example of why people with children should think 5 times before they shackle themselves to someone else, the "stepfather" of the 7 year old girl that was allegedly gang raped is now coming to the aid of 3 defendants. . . one of whom has admitted to having sex with the 15 year old girl who is this man's BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER, an act which apparently constituted statutory rape. Mind you, this man is the father of the 15 year old accused of selling the little girl.
While the father thinks that three of the men may have tried to get the young girl out of the apartment, he doesn't dispute the fact that she was raped by several men.
"My daughter said these guys were trying to help her," he said. "If you had a gun pointed to your head, you wouldn't be able to do nothing, either." Huffington Post
Really? Really? Which daughter is he speaking about. the 7 year old or the 15 year old MEDICATED person sitting in juvenile hall for selling the 7 year old?
Now am I crazy OR is this man saying its okay to watch a 7 year old get gang raped as long as you weren't participating. THIS IS THE MAN WHO IS MARRIED TO THIS CHILD'S MOTHER! Stepdaddy. Why don't you leave the defending to the criminal defense attorneys and you be about the business of figuring out how to rescue YOUR OWN DAUGHTERS! One is traumatized and the other is sitting in juvie.
Did I tell y'all I was too through?
We have our first statement from a suspect's mother and lawyer. Its your standard reponse:
"She was not raped, was not gang-raped," Robin Lord, attorney for suspect Gregory Leary, said. "I'm 100 percent certain that the 7-year-old was not sexually assaulted. The allegations will not be substantiated by any forensic evidence."
"My son didn't rape anyone," Leary's mother, Robin David, said outside the courthouse. "My son is a loving child and could never hurt anyone. I feel terrible about my child and anyone else's who is involved in this." AP
Um Maam. Ms. David. Your son is a fully grown man. Furthermore, your son has already ADMITTED to statutory rape by admitting he had sex with the 15 year old girl. And tell me that the prosecutors were not this dayum stupid
Leary's lawyer suggested Thursday in court that the child had been pressured to make up the story."She was not raped, was not gang-raped," Robin Lord said, adding that the girl's memory is "forever tainted" because she's been given toys, gifts and money. Huffington Post
Again, why was this little girl at the mayor's office and being paraded around Trenton with a pending criminal investigation. I've read a number of articles where people are describing this child and speaking about having met her at various functions. Why was this allowed to happen?
I interned at a center that treated children that were the victims of trauma. All kinds of trauma, but some were the victims of sexual abuse. The training they make you go through is horrific. I'm still scarred from having to watch a interview between a child psychologist and a 5 year old boy. Needless to say, they traumatized you to make the point that under no circumstances were untrained people allowed to speak to the children that were treated there because it might compromise the criminal case. Why is everybody and their grandma having discussions with a 7 year old crime victim?
If this child is the key witness in a criminal case this serious and she is surrounded by people who are compromising the criminal case, then perhaps she needs to be in the custody of people who have half a gnats brain. She's living with a man who is probably telling her that the suspects in custody didn't commit the crime. Do you think a 7 year old is gong to disagree with her mother's husband?
Where is the 7 year old's BIOLOGICAL FATHER?
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The 7 years old father is probably some druggie like the whole immediate family probably is or probably dead or in jail. These are not normal functioning Americans here. Everyone is probably in the same gang or crew.
The "mother" needs to leave this dude ASAP, but apparently she doesn't seem to have much sense either since this is the kind of family she is raising her kids in.
So the trifling stepfather (who is probably the reason the 15 year old is selling her body and having sex with grown men) has made it clear that he is a pedophile. Where is the 7 year old's father and why on earth is the stupid mother still allowed to have EITHER of these girls?
I'm sorry I'm confused; which child is whose biological child or step child? Not that it matters, but I swear I'm very confused, so many bloodlines criss crossing and such . . . . I agree with you, the 7 year old is a victim AND witness to a crime(s), so she really shouldn't be with any family members, though that separation may also tramautize her, but you have to be able to build a strong case, and since we don't take rape seriously, not even if it's our own children, the DA, judge, etc., should do what's necessary to build a case. BTW, just like with other horrific cases we've discussed, at no time does the media think to interview staff from rape crisis centers/hotlines, violence against women and girls organizations, etc. We just get kept out of the conversation. AND WHY WAS THE MAYOR ALLOWED TO SPEAK WITH THE CHILD AND GIVE HER A TOY? He too should know better and should be publicly criticized!
:( :( :(
Where is the 7 year old's mother? I find it interesting that the step-father is speaking out but the child's mother is silent.
Since the decline of the nuclear family, and I am not referring to the "stepping" kind, there has been a sharp increase in the victimization of women and children. I deliberately used children in there since there seems to be a belief at this site that black boys arent worthy of any protection.
If we want to keep women and children safe, separating them from black men isnt the answer. Getting them married is. Raising children in traditional nuclear families will keep them safe.
There needs to be an end to the importation of bad men into the community. There needs to be an end to survival sex to "keep the rent up" in the community. There needs to be an end to shacking up and illegitimacy in the black community. Men arent the problem in the community. It is the lack of men in the community that is the problem. Black women, though perfect in every respect (sarcasm off) will play a big part in this transformation.
I'm personally at a loss for why some black people engage in this pathological thinking. I have encountered it myself on numerous occasions: at the O.J. sentencing, a black female co-worker said it is OK if he killed Nicole because she was known to dress sexy and flirt; a step-aunt said Rhianna had it coming to her because she must have thrown the first punch; a high school friend (a woman) believes that some of these "fast" 14 year old girls (like the one R. Kelly defiled) know what they are doing when they parade around in front of black men (I quickly pointed out that I doubt she'd feel the same if it were her own 13 year old daughter on the wrong end of R. Kelly's penis before she could see how utterly WRONG she was). I'm just amazed and baffled and defeated on this...our black girls and young women are being led to the slaughter with full compliance of the so-called "black community" and not enough voices are speaking up to stop the madness...
The 7yo is the child of the "mother." The 15yo is the child of the "father." Also, it should be known that the 15yo lives with her GRANDMOTHER and only visits her father on the weekends. That screams so much to me. Why is the 15yo NOT being raised primarily by her father? Where is the 15yo's biological mother? Somethin' in the milk ain't clean!
This reminds me of an former relative of mine (yes, former, because I don't count his a*s anymore). Anyway, he had four young daughters who lived with their grandmother...in the same city! Mind you, at the time he had enough money (huge house, brand new BMW). The girls' mother had MS, so she was unable to take care of them full time.
I still can't understand why he never had full custody of those babies, or why he didn't fight for custody. Oh, wait...I do know the reason. He was too busy trying to be a player that taking care of his kids would cramp his style.
Sorry for jacking the thread.
@visitor "...there seems to be a belief at this site that black boys arent worthy of any protection."
What a complete and total lie displaying your TRUE agenda. No one has ever said ignore Black boys. What we are saying is value Black girls. If your interpretation of that was to value boys less, then you seem to hold a belief that Black women and girls should not be valued.
We don't need a "What About Our Sons" its called the NAACP, SCLC, National Action Network and all the other alphabet soup organizations.
@Vistor, You stated,"If we want to keep women and children safe, separating them from black men isnt the answer. Getting them married is. Raising children in traditional nuclear families will keep them safe.
There needs to be an end to the importation of bad men into the community. There needs to be an end to survival sex to “keep the rent up” in the community. There needs to be an end to shacking up and illegitimacy in the black community. Men arent the problem in the community. It is the lack of men in the community that is the problem. Black women, though perfect in every respect (sarcasm off) will play a big part in this transformation."
You are missing the point. Any BW whou would marry a man who had raped a seven yearold is crazy. That would not have stopped the rape of a 7 year old. Those men are damaged beyond repair. The issue is too many BM do not raise there children. They are leaving the job of parenting to women. It takes two to parent a child. Black women are not inporting these losers. They are already there. We have a 70% OOW birth rate. When BM decide to raise there kids and stop expecting BW to raise the kids alone and the white man who usually comes on at the end to give out punishements then the cycle will stop.
1. Unlike most folk I'm not all the 15 year old should be thrown under the jail. As a person with family members who range who suffer from bipolar disorder to schizophrenia those folk are capable of anything and can be a serious harm to themselves and others if off their meds (hell on their meds too).
I could tell some stories.
2. The men in question that the stepfather is saying didn't rape his daughter are 17, 19, 20 - and my guess is he's saying that 'cause these guys are adults and will be looking at all kinds of time wheras the 13 & 14 year old MAY be tried as juveniles.
The Stepfather needs to be thrown under the jail at this point - the fact they slept with his 15 year old seems to escape him.
3. If this case hinges on the testimony of the 7 year old I doubt many of these men do time. It's had to get young children to talk about their sexual abuse - and if her stepfather is telling her NOT to testify fo fear of sending these "good" men to jail...well...let's say I won't be surprised if "justice" isn't served.
@Tami
Do u need to ask why the child isn't being raised by her father?
This is the guy who is currently giving a pass to the alleged rapists of his stepdaughter and known rapists of his daughter.
The girls living with him would be out of the question.
@gem2001
Those organization are primarly focused on protecting black boys? Youre joking right? How many times has these organizations made a fool of themselves protecting false rape accusers? They dont respond to the needs of black boys. They respond to socalled accusations of racism. Now since most black boys arent affected by racism to the extent that they are affected by what happens in the black community, I would say they dont have the health and safety of black boys in mind.
Also, if it hasnt occured to you already the safety of black girls will never improve if there is a continuation of the neglect of black boys who will become men- fathers, husbands, brothers, etc. Black men dont turn into men overnight. It takes years of proper socialization. The reason some of the women at this site can so casually write off black men as defective is because someone wrote them off as boys 20 years ago. We can enjoy the consequences.
@MsL920,
If your post doesnt reflect some of the biggest problems with the level of debate at this site I dont know what else does. Dont cry for the help of the "black community" when you are so willingly to ignore the needs of about 49% of its members.
I hope children services is looking into this family again.
Visitor,
What's stopping you from creating your own blog to address the needs of black boys?
Saving the black man became popular in the late 80's early 90's as the War on Drugs began to take it's toll on young black men being incarcerated for non-violent and violent drug offenses. Infact, there have been more organizations, government initiatives, institutions, studies, books, groups, panels, etc. created in response to saving the black man/boy etc. If you haven't been paying attention, then that's on you.
I also think that if you were to really give it some though, the "Save the Black Man" mantra has bred most of the conditions that create situations like Rowan Towers - at the expense of the value of the lives of black women and girls. I don't think anyone is disputing what your point is, but THIS space isn't the venue for that expression, in the same way the 100 Black Men committed, The National Fatherhood Initiative, or Jawanza Kunjufu's "Conspiracy to destroy black Boys" weren't about trying to save black women and girls.
A 7 year old black girl was victimized by black men and black boys. A 15 year old mentally ill black girls was victimized by black men and black boys. Attempting to obfuscate these facts by painting ANYONE who chooses to publicly advicate for black women and girls as alienators of black men is LUDICROUS, given the obstacles black women face with regard to fair treatment and RESPECT from black men.
@Visitor
I don't think anyone at this site advocates for the dismissal of the needs of black boys. While this blog is primarily focused on black women and girls, I think we are all aware that young black boys are also victims at the hands of older black men in much the same way girls are. Violence, sexual exploration and neglect are something that young black boys and girls have to live with in a lot of these "hellpits". However, once these boys grow up, they tend to join the ranks of the violent thugs that terrorize neighborhoods. Their damaged behaviors fit RIGHT IN with the damaged behaviors of the other black men - so much so that now those damaged behaviors have become THE dominant traits amongst A LOT of African-American males.
For the young female victims, they will continue to be victimized their entire lives. They cannot join the ranks of the rapists, murderers, robbers, etc. They just get pregnant and are now PERMANENTLY STUCK in the hellpit. And in order to provide a life for yet another generation of damaged African Americans, they will rely on things like survival sex, shacking up with drug dealers and other criminals that occasionally help pay the bills and provide some element of protection, etc.
Again, no one is advocating to ignore black boys. But black women cannot be asked to socialize boys that are damaged and out of control pretty much from birth by themselves. They shouldn't even be expected to do it for their female children. Children need BOTH BIOLOGICAL PARENTS to be healthy, sound, SANE individuals for said child to even have a shot at having a decent quality of life. Telling black women to just marry the majority of African American men and that will solve their problems is flat out wrong. The majority of African American men are NOT suitable for marriage or have no interest in it anyway.
So perhaps black men should spend some time talking to their peers about the benefits of marriage and the NEED for marriage in the black community. Men follow what other successful, powerful men do. Successful, powerful African American men are NOT advocating marriage and they are certainly not advocating it with African American women. So you are asking the bulk of African American men to listen to a minority of African American men, many of whom may not even be performing the traditional role of husband?
Hmmmmm?
@ Visitor
Why is that when black women stick up for themselves we're automatically leaving brothas hanging? I agree that society as a whole needs to be better at recognizing sexual abuse of males. But in the black community, we turn our heads to abuse of black girls. Look at all those sistas defending the Chris Browns, and now these sick f**ks who raped a little girl. NEWS FLASH: BLACK WOMEN ARE VICTIMS TOO. And sometimes it's at the hands of black men. Instead of complaining that we don't care about brothas why don't you and the positive brothas talk to these other men who are beating, killing, raping or have abandoned black females. It's funny, black women are contracting HIV at high rates and the black comm. is slowly responding. Let brothas start contracting HIV in astronomical numbers and then we'll see more action.
@BlkSeaGoat,
All those organizations your named are merely closed stable doors after the horse has bolted. Again they werent set up to help anyone but give recently graduated black folks jobs in the inept and useless public sector. I am for small government. I dont need any alphabet soup of organizations to come and save my family. The over reliance on public safety nets has been a problem in the black community. Welfare.
I understand very well that a seven year old girl was victimized but she wasnt victimized in a community with strong nuclear families. She was victimized in a Jim Jones style commune of single mothers and the predatory children they cant help but raising and the predatory men they import. Rowan Towers.
Rowan Towers was created for black women. Welfare, section 8, Crystal Stairs, bus passes, WIC, etc. have been created for women and their children. The only think black men have is prison and the military.
I am hearing a lot of zero sum talk here at this site.
It's sooo true: only REAL MEN especially CHRISTIAN MEN who believe in the gospel (no matter what color he is) (there all SONS OF ADAM anyway) need to go into the ghetto areas instead of going overseas sometimes to rescue these boys....America need her missionaries to remain here, and have separate schools for boys and girls because these boys need someone to model themselves by-----THESE RAPES OF 7 YEAR OLDS ARE DISGUSTING!!!!!!!
@BlKSeaGoat,
Also, what is even more frightening about all these programs for women and their children is that they seem to reward dysfunction.
Visitor,
If single black men would petition the court for custody of their children, they too can receive welfare, Section 8, and even WIC.
You like to use a lot of figurative language and catchphrases to say alot of "zero sum talk".
So again, what's STOPPING YOU FROM PUBLICLY ADVOCATING FOR THE NEEDS OF BLACK MEN AND CREATING A SPACE TO DO SO?
You are free to create a "What About Our Sons", although you'd probably have to get some legal permission from WAOD regarding likeness issues. However, you are free to create a psace where the content can be about black boys and all of their problems AND what you propose to do to solve them.
Regarding your critique of the organizations I mentioned, did you step in to do anything to make them live up to their loftiest goals? Have you done anything to assist poor black people with transition from the reliance on welfare?
And black men have more than just prison or military, but black male apologists would have them convinced otherwise.
What I am understanding from you is that you not only blame black women for EVERY ill that's a part of the black underclass, but you are also abrogating black men from ANY responsibility to solve those problems by being -- MEN.
I am not convinced that you're for helping black people do much of anything, let alone black men.
jubilee,
Ah... nevermind.
In Martins voice "daaamn Gina" sorry for the language Gem but now "I am at a loss" WTH is going on here.This is crazy and just gets worse by the minute.My heart is breaking.
oh yeah cosign @ Reese.Black men need to help themselves.Black men need to help black boys.I don't know how some people (read Visitor) can say black women are the reason for so many black criminal males and at the same time expect black women to step in and "fix" these boys and men.It makes no sense to me.If people say that black women and their negative counterproductive "I can raise my son alone" mentalities are the problem how then can they fix bm black boy problems.Makes no sense.Furthermore I resent and reject the notion that we should put the needs of black men and boys ahead of our own.I am NOT willing to protect and provide for ANY adult male.Or fight for the cause of ANY mans.For the time being I am NOT even being the role model for my own brother as I said in another post I have him around positive male influences and I believe that they more than I are the key to his salvation.
I take what I said back about my unwillingness to fight on behalf of ANY mans cause I would fight for blackseagoat.i'm just saying he fights for me, so it's only right.
@Reese,
No, the female victims will become the safe houses for these men and taking the creme off the top.
No one just gets pregnant.
I am not telling black women to marry anyone. However if she decides to have children then she does. If black women want to live her life a single woman she has every human right to do so but not while she decides to be a mother.
Also if most AA men are not suitable marriage partners than they certainly are not suitable sperm donors.
Black men cant pep talk other black men or younger black men into marriage. The best advocate of marriage is having seen one in real life.
For all this marriage talk everyone looked over the fact this "family" has both a male and female figure in the household. Maybe folks stopped getting married as much b/c they had many jacked up examples of it growing up and now few folks want to get married or they don't last.
@BLKSeaGoat,
What court is going to give a man custody? What planet do you live on?
I dont publicly advocate for anything that should be done at the domestic micro level. You get the government/public involved in anything and it is going to turn out badly. See Europe for details.
Obviously black men have more options than prison or the military outside the public sector. However since you think the government or its affiliated offshoots have the all the answers than that is what they have on offer.
I am not abdicating any responsibility from black men. The penal system will deal with them eventually. If this culture remains there will be more and more seven year old girls and boys at risk. If it isnt a little girl being ganged raped its going to be a black boy being blugeoned to death with 2x4s on the streets of Chicago. Stop raking in the dead leaves ignoring the fact that the tree is dead and needs to be cut down.
@Visitor in your first comment you stated:
“There needs to be an end to shacking up and illegitimacy in the black community. Men arent the problem in the community. It is the lack of men in the community that is the problem. Black women, though perfect in every respect (sarcasm off) will play a big part in this transformation.”
Than in your last comment you noted:
“Black men cant pep talk other black men or younger black men into marriage. The best advocate of marriage is having seen one in real life.”
So my question to you is how do YOU propose that we resolve the issues of illegitimacy in the community and increase the importation of (real) men and subsequently marriage in the “black community”? What is your solution? Is this solely the responsibility of BW?
@ Visitor, are you a former member of the Bush Administration? Or are you one of those proponents of "marriage for everybody"? Or just a regular, garden-variety sexist type? Surely you know the horrific criminal behavior towards these CHILDREN BY BLACK MEN ALSO HAPPENS IN BLACK MIDDLE CLASS AREAS AS WELL? It's the mentality, stupid! :)
@Zabeth
Thanks for caricaturing my arguments. This problem will take generations to solve. I suppose we can bring religion back but not the, "I am going to live my triflin' lifestyle and only baby Jesus has a right to judgement" type of religion. I think we need a mix of Talibanesque social shaming with Judeo-Christian platitudes.
Arranged marriages. Counseling, before and during the first five years of marriage. Delayed marriage for men and early marriage for women capturing those peak fertility years while reducing her number of potential sexual partners.
Martial art classes, stay-at-home child rearing. No "it takes a village" attitude. An end to materialism. Black folks need to save money, buy an affordable home.
More military service instead of running off to college to incur more debt with relatively worthless degrees in the soft sciences. More businesses in the black community- pooling resources among small groups of trust worthy people.
Promotion of natural hair. The list is endless really.
I forgot- fitness is important. A kosher/halal diet. Little to NO alcohol consumption. It can however be replaced by social marijuana smoking.
@RevMamaAfrica
Read, Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem by David Blankenhorn.
I advocate marriage for parents. Childless people can do what they like. Yes, I am a sexist. I believe in gender specific attributes, psychology, ability, responsibilities, obligation, differences etc.
Can we replace father with good or sober or decent father, there was a "father" in this household. And some father do abuse their children and the mother, that's why some of them aren't there
do NOT feed the troll
@LaJane Galt
do NOT discourage debate
I agree with LaJane Galt, there is not point in further engaging "the visitor."
@ Visitor:
FYI: sexual and physical abuse do occur in two-parent homes. Like someone pointed out, since we've heard from the stepfather, this is a household of married people. Single parent homes don't yield deviant children. These parents' lack of values are what is shaping these kids into becoming thugs, abusers and unmotivated people. I grew up in a single-parent home, in the ghetto and I have 2 degrees.
@Nony
I consider myself a black woman who sticks up for herself but I do it interdependently with my man, my family and my friends. We arent islands you know. The black community turns their heads to the abuse of everyone. Those black boys who raped that girl have probably been creating havoc in the community for years now. Not until the national media caught hold of this particular story is everyone gnashing their teeth.
Black women are contradicting HIV because she isnt using protection and is sleeping with the high risk men. Nothing the community can do about foolish choices of adult and not so adult women. HIV is a lifestyle disease in America. You live that lifestyle you are liable to contract it.
@Zabeth,
If my voice can be sidelined so can yours. Dont turn around and feel entitled to my concern or the concern of anyone else if you feel you have a right to shut people down. Its the willful ignorance in the black community thats most hurtful. Scientology aint got nothing on the cult mentality in the black community.
@Visitor
"There needs to be an end to the importation of bad men into the community."
Where are they being "imported" from Mars?
Because of course if I were "importing" men (sounds like we are refering to handbags or cheese, BTW) I would choose to import from countries with stronger family values :-)
The sad truth is they ARE already a part of "the community" and the women who live in these communities are just dating who is available.
"More military service instead of running off to college to incur more debt with relatively worthless degrees in the soft sciences. "
Are you then implying that military service for BM is a good thing?
Because earlier you stated it was only one of two choices "allowed" BM, as if BM have no free will of their own and no ability to make change in their own neighborhoods.
"The only think black men have is prison and the military. "
Isn't that an insult to BM?
Hmmmmm...........
@Knockoutchick
If black women insist on having children she has a moral obligation to pick the best and the brightest. Now if you are suggesting that every man in the community is bad than DVDs and Haagen Daz must suffice.
Your choice where you want your man to come from. Good luck and make a good choice.
Well if black women are doomed to choose these men due to proximity than birds of a feather...
I think military service for all men is a good thing.
I referenced prison and military because there seems to be a belief that public bodies, funded by the tax payer, can be used to solve the problems of black men. It cant. It will take the home to solve the problem, not the government, not any organization.
@Visitor...You said " Men arent the problem in the community. It is the lack of men in the community that is the problem."
I suggest that the presence of dysfunctional men is the problem coupled with the silence/impotence of honorable men. When you look at the crimes and attrocities committed in the black community, by and large they are committed by dysfunctional parasitic "men." BM in the black community have abdicated their mandate to provide basic protection. Black women aren't terrorizing the residents of Rowan Towers, black men are!!! The sick irony is that if a gang of white men had raped the baby, we would have held a March on Washington-type rally led by the Rev. Al and others. Any talk of "he didn't do it" would be squelched! But when the victim is a black girl, the play book seems to read that "aw, well, you know....Pookie is a good boy..."
And the troll buffet is now closed. Y'all wave bye!
Visitor, while you're at it, please send a nice note to Tiki Barber. :(
@Gem2001,
People have the right to make what ever choices they want to make, but they do not have the right to demand anything from other people. What I have witnessed over the years is that SOME black folk think they can do what ever, think what ever or choose what ever they want to do and every other black man and woman has to go along. Many other black folk support them in this pathelogical thinking. It has become time that the rest of us remove ourselves from these folks. It has become time that those of us who love and respect one another distance ourselves from many of them. They don't care about US.
So glad the visitoing troll has been banned. The fact that this person decided to vent about this blog instead of expressing sheer outrage over the rape of a child says a lot about their mindset.
Your voice for our children deserves a huge "Thank You"
Unfortunately, I am not sure that justice will be served. I have a sinking feeling that people like "Visitor" may be on the jury and decide that somehow the Black men accused of raping this 7 year old child are somehow "victims of the system".
It seems that in some parts of the Black community, victimhood means doing something evil and getting caught. Very scary.
I just hope that the 7 year old victim is getting some type of counseling to overcome this tragedy.
I know we aren't supposed to feed the trolls, but damn, we're just gonna ignore this part right here?
"Arranged marriages. Counseling, before and during the first five years of marriage. Delayed marriage for men and early marriage for women capturing those peak fertility years while reducing her number of potential sexual partners."
So, again it's the woman's fault. Reduce the number of HER sexual partners and everything will be ok. Nevermind the men out there who have 50-11 chi'rren with 50-11 women.
ugh...
If you read between the lines, it sounds like "visitor" is advocating child marriage. SMH.
I also have a nagging feeling that these perpetrators may get off. I do not think the girls parents are acting in her best interests either.