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The Ghost of Jayson Blair: Toure, His "cousin", and David Shuster - MSNBC's DOUBLE STANDARD

First of all, who or what is a Tourex? Apparently I've been living under a rock and missed an incident on Twitter where a demon spirit took control of MSNBC's Toure's Twitter account and made the kinds of statements one might expect from a BET employee or independent contractor. And you would think MSNBC would have learned from Don Imus. We know that Mr. X-Ray is affiliated with MSNBC because his Twitter account proudly declares such an affiliation. And it was next to the MSNBC name that Toure's account posted the following in reference to the systematic rape and torture of Black women during slavery:
"Some [Black women and girl slaves] were cunning and brilliant enough to use their bodies to gain liberation thus fooling massa. Of course most were raped, we know that, but some were sharp enough to trade that good-good for status or liberation." Gawker

Well golly gee, if I had branded my Twitter account with a major news network's name, and had that published on that account, you would think I would do more than blame it on a mysterious "cousin". You would think MSNBC might care... seeing as how they are editing and regulating other MSNBC contributor's Twitter  accounts.

Now compare this Twitter incident with one involving MSNBC's David Shuster.  When David Shuster got out of pocket on Twitter, the MSNBC brass were QUICK to put the Kabosh on that
It’s looking like MSNBC management has indeed forbidden reporter David Shuster from Tweeting, or so suggest illicit Tweets emanating from the embattled Twitter page in question. Recall that Shuster’s Twitter went dark for three weeks following the journalist’s apparently inappropriate @-reply to the felonious James O’Keefe, in which Shuster predicted that the prison-bound O’Keefe will indeed be sent to prison.

Shuster’s silence was rumored to be the result of a mandatory Twitter embargo—a theory that was all but confirmed by the reappearance—and immediate deletion—of his sudden Tweets,

MSNBC even went so far as to issue a public statement calling Shuster's comments inappropriate.
“The comments were inappropriate,” an MSNBC spokesperson told Politico. “We have talked to David about them.” Mediaite.

But since Tourex's Twitter attack was on enslaved Black women... NO Biggie!

If you will notice Al Sharpton, the high commissioner of Decency has been radio silent about this. So has R. Kelly's favorite publicist,  Tavis "Black Folks Need and Agenda" Smiley.  So has Al Roker, who was quite vocal about Don Imus. The list goes on, but you will be waiting until the Devil needs a heater before the Black Elite Establishment makes a demand that the diversity-challenged MSNBC makes some public statement about these ridiculous statements by one of interns. We know this, but I always think its important to remind you of the jelly-spined feckless leadership of people running around declaring themselves to be leaders.

I would have ignored this other than the fact that if you will recall, I do believe it was this same Toure that wrote or manufactured a quote referring to First Lady Michelle Obama as a "Ghetto Girl" a quote he did not attribute to his "cousin," but to some imaginary anonymous Martha's Vineyard resident. Later after people became outraged at the statements his "cousin" made about enslaved Black women, the follwing appeared in his timeline.
"I like to be intellectually risque but never want to offend. I crossed that line. Am now redrawing it for myself.  Poorle expressed bizzarre ideas and brain farts are not what this space is supposed to be about. Will do better going forward. " Witches' Brew

If I was MSNBC I would be hiring some fact checkers because you may have a Jayson Blair-like problem on your hands. If his BLackberry was indeed hijacked by his "cousin" then what does that say about his judgement. If in fact there is no "cousin" then what does that say for X-Ray's character? It appears he outright lied. I'm not sure and that's MSNBC's problem seeing as how their network's name is on his twitter account.

If you would like to celebrate Women's History Month, consider inquiring about why it appears that MSNBC appears to have a DOUBLE STANDARD when it comes to twitter accounts associated with its network. At the very least they ought to demand Toure remove their name from his Twitter account if it is easily hijacked by his "cousin."

You can contact

MSNBC President Phil Griffin at 212-664-4444


(they are going to transfer you to viewer services HELL, but get creative with it.)


EMAIL: viewerservices@msnbc.com


If you are really feeling creative and motivated, you can ask Representative Sheila Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters  to send the letter, they already went after MSNBC this week for its lack of any ethnic diversity. Maybe she can ask the NBC President why MSNBC-related Twitter hijinks attacking White males are dealt with swiftly while MSNBC-related absurdities attacking victims of systematic rape and torture are ignored. #justsayin... Here are their office numbers. Do be polite, point out you appreciate their concern about MSNBC's diversity issues and express the fact that if they had the opportunity you would love for them to address the apparent double standard. It never hurts to ask- Why not make a federal case out of it... literally.

Shelia Jackson Lee- 202-225-3816. Maxine Waters -  (202) 225-2201


Good luck with that whole calling a congress member's office. Do report your adventures in the comments or via email.

In all likelihood, MSNBC has no clue about Toure's Twitter hijinks.  Help celebrate Women's History Month by sharing Toure's Twitter " history" related to Black women.

Reader Comments (37)

Rev Al's daughter Dominique recently got beat up and pushed out of a car by her boyfriend, and this boyfriend's grandma is talking trash to reporters saying 'she aint really hurt'.

If that doesn't open his mouth about systemic violence against black women, nothing will. Remember: if the perpetrator is black, he WILL jump back.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterShecodes

Wow...its stll open season on black women...by black men.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterTAG

*sigh* Twitter and reality television will be the downfall of humanity...

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMommieDearest

@mommie...or it can help identify the crazies. Something about twitter...almost like projectile vomiting. No filtering at all. helps to identify who your enemy is. i never liked toure and after that Martha's Vineyard article i knew there was something wrong with ole dude.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterTAG

Many people don't know probably b/c who in the world wants to follow Toure on Twitter. He is annoying. The black entertainment blogs aren't even covering this and you know how they love to put folks on blast.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterblkchik

sharpton also didn't say anything about the racist frat party at the UCSD which sparked protests up and down the UC college system. why?

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commentercocolamala

I am sooooo tired of black men that are married to non-black women trying to 'educate' black women and dictating how they should now live their lives. I pretty much dismissed anything he had to say when I found out who he married. Go sit down somewhere Toure.

BTW, I believe that mediatakeout.com DID report on this story.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commenter........

When you call NBC you have to ask specifically for Phi Griffins office. Don't say you are calling to complain, just ask for his office and refer to the quotes and David Shuster.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@TAG

"Something about twitter…almost like projectile vomiting. "

LOL!!!!!!!! I'm gonna steal that line for future reference.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMommieDearest

[The list goes on, but you will be waiting until the Devil needs a heater before the Black Elite Establishment makes a demand that the diversity-challenged MSNBC makes some public statement about these ridiculous statements by one of interns.]

I had to chuckle at this because you're not the first blogger to point out MSNBC's lack of racial diversity:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2010/02/24/hypocritical-olbermann-defends-racial-makeup-msnbc-accused-more-diver

This lack of diversity may be due to the network hiring White people who make racist comments. Check out the latest example, an MSNBC commentator who called candidate Marco Rubio (who's Latino) a racial slur:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/02/24/msnbcs-donny-deutsch-apologizes-coconut-slur-marco-rubio

So, MSNBC being so lily White is about as shocking as water being wet.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFred

cocolamala on 03.03.10 at 9:25 am

[sharpton also didn’t say anything about the racist frat party at the UCSD which sparked protests up and down the UC college system. why?]

I wonder if the students were liberal.

Here are Al Sharpton's rules for confronting racism.

*Attack if the person making racist jokes is conservative and especially White (e.g., Don Imus).

* Remain silent if the person making racist jokes is liberal (e.g., Toure).

If you think these rules are hypocritical, then you are freethinking, self-respecting Black person.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFred

Why are you guys bringing up Al, y'all know he too busy fighting Tavis right now for the King of Black America spot

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterblkchik

*rolls eyes* at all the Sharpton hate. I don't know why folk think that their issues have to be everyone's issues.

Folk always complain and say he's not their leader - okay - so what's the issue? If he's not your leader then what he tackles or doesn't tackle isn't an issue for you.

Last I checked Shaprton was working heavy on jobs legislation, healthcare, and was heavily involved in getting black farmers their due.

All of those issues are important to black folk - sorry if him not commenting on idiot white students or an asinine comment by Toure wasn't on his list of things to do.

He tackles the issues he deems important just as you all do here.

I mean why didn't you comment about John Mayer? He said a bunch of crap too - u didn't comment about the UCSD event either - why should Sharpton.

He fights his fight. You fight yours. Someone else will have theirs.

*shrug*

Bringing up Sharpton's name just seems petty.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

Ugh, Toure has always had issues with "blackness" or being black or whatever. I used to read Rolling Stone and his articles about black music artists were always filled with self-hating nonsense. I can't believe he has gotten this far with his career. His agent must be good at making sh*t look like gold.

I don't care if his spouse is not black because a lot fo these black men with black wives (D. L. Ugly, Kevin Hart, Chris Rock, Al Sharpton, etc.) are just as bad as ones with "other" spouses. Black men in general (at least the ones in the public eye) are clearly only out for the advancement of themselves. Which is why black women need to see it for what it is an act accordingly. But I guarantee you a majority if Toure's followers are black women.

All your skin folk ain't your kinfolk, LADIES!

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterReese

Co-sign to post #7 and #13. Especially #7, though. I know that if you're a Black woman with a non-Black man... I REALLY don't need you trying to educate me in how I should live my life as a Black man. So, I can empathize.

THAT was a good comment.

Toure's not really an important guy. By that I mean, he has no pull. I doubt a lot of people even know about what he said, as insensitive and ignorant as it was. I don't know, but I think he's going to get SOME kind of punishment.

I don't see him walking away clean from this.

- K. Michel of K. Michel Press

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterK. Michel

Reese well said @Black men in general (at least the ones in the public eye) are clearly only out for the advancement of themselves. Which is why black women need to see it for what it is an act accordingly. But I guarantee you a majority if Toure’s followers are black women.

All your skin folk ain’t your kinfolk, LADIES

I'm taking Gina's advice and Reese's also .I'm in this for self.

March 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertruth p.

@JJ I've only got something against Sharpton because he's a hypocrit.When Imus said what he said Sharpton was all over .Al Sharpton is only one man and he's free to do as he wishes but many people,bm/bw/wm/ww/lm/lw/am/aw liberals/democrats/repubs, have been seeing the double standards of Sharpton for a long time.Speaking against republicans all the while accepting money from them under the table,which he admitted to btw.Speaking against violence done against sometime criminal black males by police all the while being sympathetic when those criminal bm commit crimes against innocent people.I mean I aint mad at Al.I look at him like he's a politician who is keeping the tradition of many of the so called black male leaders before him.I'm really just calling it like I see it.He's a hypocrit.And I do not respect the fact that black women are supporting the causes he's involved with as typically they have nothing to gain from their giving of support.At this point I expect nothing of Rev Al in regard to bw but since this is WAOD I think now is a good time to try and reach bw who are in support of Rev Al and possibly make them question what are they getting from their support of his organizations and the causes he takes up.Or maybe I should be asking are they even looking to be given anything for their support?I just don't like the fact that he poses as someone that cares about the advancement of the black collective but his actions show otherwise.Nothing wrong with picking and choosing your battles and causes just stop the blatant lying and the hypocrisy.That's all i'm saying.I guess if he did stop the lying and the hypocrisy he would'nt have the support he needs to have a career.As is the case with most career politicians.

same reason i can't stand Al I can't stand most other politicians HYPOCRITS.i speak against non black politicians and their shady activities all the time it'd be hypocritical of me to overlook the Rev

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertruth p.

Well, in all fairness to Rev. Al, I respect him as a gifted preacher. HE'S ONE OF THE BEST PREACHERS WE HAVE OUT HERE and I've heard him preach many times -- in terms of style, knowledge of Scripture, knowledge of the history of African people, history of the world, community organizing skills, etc. But . . .

I wouldn't not follow him politically too many places. He and Rev. Messy Jackson jumped on Don Imus three years ago, but a few days later D.L Hughly said the same thing and nothing happened. THAT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT.

I have a sister/friend in NYC who told us about Rev. Al's cozy relationship with millionaire mayor of NYC Bloomberg. That ain't right either, least of all for our people. Why is he hanging with Sec. of Education Arne Duncan and fascist Republican Newt Ginrich to "reform"public schools? We all know that charter schools and/or school vouchers spells the end to free public schood education AND the way it is suppose to be properly funded; in charter schools, they take money from the public school system, use it in their school and since charter schools have been shown to not do that much better in terms of student performance, once the student leaves the charter school, the money follow the student, the student leaves the charter school and the money DOES NOT go back to the public school system. Not to mention this means mass, unfair firings of public school teachers and support staff, many of whom are our people, hard working, well educated people.

Now why is Rev. Al, a newly single man, a preacher, doing radio commercials for a herbal Viagra like product? If he want to concern himself with men's health, why doesn't he do a series of commercials for men to get regular health exams, prostrate exams, high blood pressure, mental health evalutions, HIV/AIDS tests, substance abuse treatment, etc?

As for Rev. Al and Tavis, it's just a pissing contest; they are both trying to carve out a spot for themselves to the "left" or "right" of Pres. Obama. Plus, Tavis played himself, cause we all know he supported (Driving Ms.) Hilary during the campaign. But to his credit, Tavis is at least trying to ask some questions of Pres. Obama, accountability, especially when it comes to jobs for our people. But then again, Tavis closed down his big tent this year, the SOTBU or whatever it's called, cause he got wind there would be organized criticisms of Pres. Obama, i.e., jobs, health care, public education, so called "clean coal" the U.S. war against Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, etc., the U.S. re-invasion of Haiti, etc. Just a mess of brothers making another mess of themselves. :(

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterrevmamaafrika.com

Guys who make these kind of comments need to start fearing for their lives (livelihood).

They need to pause before hitting the enter key. They need to shut their mouths and keep the stupid to themselves. They need to stop thinking they can denigrate or insult black women, and backtrack by calling the comments "intellectual." He's the 2nd MF to use that word.

It's a strange jealously these bm have for bw with wm. They keep reiterating these obscene talking points about rape and bondage (slavery) like it was an ideal relationship for bw with wm.

Sick.

People like him never mention this other aspect: if the bw had to negotiate with the wm during slavery, it was because the bm was useless.

He didn't protect her then, sometimes he was the one selling her into slavery and raping her too, and he doesn't protect her today. Instead he's willing to collect chump change from the media to denigrate her.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGoldenah

Shelia Jackson Lee…wow! I just got off the phone w/ Bobby Ray who works in Ms. Jackson-Lee’s office. Let’s say it was an interesting conversation at best. Mr. Ray didn’t understand why I was calling her office since I don’t live in her home district and it was protocol to contact my “member of congress first”.

FYI I live in D.C. our faux members have no real power and I pretty sure she has a residence her in D.C.

Anyway, I told Mr. Ray that Ms. Jackson-Lee was already grilling MSNBC about their lack of diversity and Mr. Toure used his twitter account (which states he is affiliated with MSNBC), to post degortory comments about black women. Mr. Ray didn’t get. He tried to pawn me off to my “member of congress”, he didn’t understand what the problem is or what Ms. Jackson-Lee could do. I asked that she make a statement or call for his firing. The last part he seemed the most uncomfortable with. I had to keep pressing him on why I should have to go through “my member of congress” ? I guess I ain’t no, don’t contribute to her campaign, and I don’t fall into the category of lobbyist. I mention that I was an African-American women , but alas that wasn’t enough for Mr. Ray. He finally took down my information. I believed he was just tired of hearing me complain.

I gave him the website as a reference point. The phone call left me so tired of the politicians. Games , Games, Games.

Any suggestions on how I should have approached her office? I’m all ears!

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterthelildiva4u

revmamaafrika.com wrote:

We all know that charter schools and/or school vouchers spells the end to free public schood education AND the way it is suppose to be properly funded; in charter schools, they take money from the public school system, use it in their school and since charter schools have been shown to not do that much better in terms of student performance, once the student leaves the charter school, the money follow the student, the student leaves the charter school and the money DOES NOT go back to the public school system. Not to mention this means mass, unfair firings of public school teachers and support staff, many of whom are our people, hard working, well educated people.

If DC public schools are so great, don't you think President Obama would send his daughters to one?

Just something to think about.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFred

truth p wrote

same reason i can’t stand Al I can’t stand most other politicians HYPOCRITS.i speak against non black politicians and their shady activities all the time it’d be hypocritical of me to overlook the Rev

Thank you for summing it up.

Up until the 1960s, it wasn't unusual for us to ask various Black leaders what is their agenda so we can choose whether to support or reject them.

Now, we are expected to blindly support the "Justice Brothers" (Revs. Sharpton and Jackson) even though their actions aren't helping Black people as a whole. It's as if Black people are supposed to be mindless zombies instead of free thinking human beings.

Count me out if that's the new "Black Agenda."

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFred

Happy New Year to you too, Bro. Fred, I have no problem if a family wishes to send their child(children) to a private school, as in the case of the Obama daughters. Ain't no shame in Sidwell Friends School.

But the problem is to the extent public schools are properly educating our children, there are REASONS, plural, for that, the least of which is "poor teacher performance."

School supplies, including technology, computers, the latest school books and related materials, music and the arts, which usually get the axe at "budget time", vocational training, i.e., building trades, automotive, heating and air conditioning, manufacturing, etc. Yes many of these topics are not taught in our public schools, but we need to look closely at the attack on working class people, unions, and especially unions of city and county employees. They are making teachers the scapegoats for the long process of political and financial neglect of our public schools. How are taxes raised and who and what process determines how such money is spent on public school education? Who and what process determines which neighborhood schools get closed or torned down and which neighborhoods get a new school AND a new library with state of the art learning equipment?

Some of our young people come from families/neighborhoods that would make the mafia cringe, with crime, substance abuse, family violence, UNTREATED, UNACKNOWLEDGED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, gentrification, etc. So the problems of our schools is not just teachers and principals. I live in WDC, I had a heated discussion with my best friend who is a school teacher, high school art. I told her her union ain't got the ovaries enough to take on Chancellor Michelle Rhee; sue her %^& for slander for saying in a mag she thought no one would read that so many teachers had sex with students. Funny how the police and Child and Family Services have yet to find those cases, at least as of last week. They want to fire WDC teachers without cause or due process? Make them "at will" employees? Hell to the naw! So they can bring in younger, fresh from college White men and women? Get rid of the Black teachers, many women and men with at least a MA degree and 20 + years of experience? There is a fair way to have diversity in the pool of school teachers, this is not the fair way to do that. (I apologize Sis. Gina, everyone, for being so long, but some of us have been organizing around this or supporting those that do. This ain't no academic exercise, this is about people's lives.) :( :(

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRevMamaAfrika

I apologize, I meant to say "to the extent public schools are not educating our children . . . "

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRevMamaAfrika

@ thelildiva4u, keep at it! I used to work on Capitol Hill; lots of angry calls and fiery emails and faxes to make a difference, at least for that day. We used to keep a log of calls, emails, faxes, subject of the contact, etc. It let the congressmember know what issues people care about. BUT YOU MUST FOLLOW UP! Be polite, yet firm. Know your facts. Make a suggestion to solve a problem that makes the congressmember look good, something perhaps doable? Know which other members of congress may agree with you, research there voting records. If we had researched Pres. Obama's voting record while he was in the Illinois Legislature and the U.S. Senate, so-called progressive folks would have never voted for him, at least not in good conscience.
The war? Reproductive justice (and abortion)? Legal same gender marriage? Health care/health insurance? Corporate America? Jobs? Youth? The death penalty/criminal justice issues? Zionism, Palestine and the rest of the Middle East? Naw!! :)

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRevMamaAfrika

@thelildiva4u Thanks a bunch for not just being a spectator and a member of the chorus and taking the time to call. As far as how you should have approached. its different for everyone, but I would have said something to the effect. I understand that the congresswoman is a member of the committee reviewing the merger of NBC Universal and Comcast. I also realize that at the last hearing several members of the committee brought up the lack of diversity on NBC and its cable channel MSNBC. I would like to bring to her another matter that I wish she would ask a question about.... blah blah blah. And to the person saying call your congressman, my response would be They ain't on the committee asking questions, she is.

The most effective act however would be to call that NBC UNi number and ask for the MSNBC president by name.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@GEM...thinks for the tip and I will call Ray,Mrs. Waters and MSNBC by name. @RevMamaAfrika thanks for the backround info.

@Fred and Rev MamaAfrika...D.C. Mom here and the subject is a lil off topic from the post.

Fred our own Mayor didn't want to send his kids to a DC Public School. He had to be pushed into it. The twin boys attend on the Top 5 schools in D.C. (which allows few, very few kids who don't live in the neighborhood to attend).

Arne Ducan (Edu Sec) promised to put his daughter into a DCPS. He moved to Arlington VA. Why? Word on the street was because Arlington had a much better system.

@Revmama...I hear you, but it all changes when you have kids. You don't get second chances with kids. You can’t do over being eight years old. Once it’s gone it’s gone. I don't have time to wait for DCPS to get it right. We tried DCPS (school was behind sidwell) and it didn't work for us. All I want is options so if Charter is one so be it.

I wrote a post about the subject a while back if folks want to learn more. It’s called Barack, Arne, Adrian..Put Your Kids into the D.C.School System
http://www.urbanplaydates.com/blogs.php?action=show_member_post&ownerID=7&post_id=57

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterthelildiva4u

You know, I'm just now taking something into context... he's not even DATING a Black woman and he's talking like this. That's REAL suspect considering that I heard Toure was sticking his nose up at "Blackness" for the longest.

--A lot to think about.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterK. Michel

What everyone is missing is that he brought up the image of Black women being raped in DEFENSE of his relationship with a NON-Black woman. So its ten times SICKER than most of you realize and this is supposed to be their "race and culture" contributor?

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I'm not surprised by Toure's statement, especially since it's coming from a person who has no investment in the advancement and empowerment of Black women.

@thelildiva4u, I would suggest not only writing to Jackson-Lee directly, I would also suggest you contact MSNBC sponsors. If anyone has a list of their sponsors, maybe we can post that and contact their sponsors en masse to voice our grievances.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDiasporique

Um why not just call the president's office. I've called twice. Gotten through BOTH times. People always want to go off the deep end. Just try tactic 1 first.

The whole congressional contact thing is just a lark. You never know. the real issue is MSNBC brass giving him a pass.

This blog does not promote, encourage or otherwise support "boycotts." Boycotts are for people without power. THis is clearly a case where action from MSNBC can be produced with simple lodging of a complaint with the appropriate people followed by public shaming if necessary.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@ RevMamaAfrika
Why would any sane parent want to send her child to a public school? Nothing personal, but you have a very PollyAnnaish view on what goes on inside these public schools. Lack of funding is not the reason for the collapse of public schools. That is the first thing people cite as a reason. Sorry, it is not. Most “so-called” inner city schools are given more governmental funding than suburban schools and yet, they can’t seem to graduate more than 50% (state I live in).

They receive boatloads of money they must spend in a school year’s time. Most of that money is wasted on irrelevant vanity projects or handed over to unscrupulous consultants who will help them with their problems.

Then you cited the Unions. A group of extortionist thugs that have ruined every business and industry they infiltrate. Ask yourself, why would people who make minimum wage need Union representation? Grocery store clerks, many of whom make minimum wage, must give part of their earnings to a certain Union organization. For what?

Back to funding. I have heard the funding excuse so many times and sorry, it just does not jibe with me. Historical references show that Black people, pre Brown v Board of Education did not have the proper school supplies, latest school books, modern school buildings or biggest education budgets, however they seemed to graduate more students. Even if a vast majority did not go on to higher education, the quality of their educations were far superior to the watered down drivel these kids learn.

For a more modern reference, the children in China don’t even have nearly the same amenities as most school districts, yet they seem to be able to teach their children advanced mathematical equations without having to purchase TI-89 calculators, expensive computer programs, modern school buildings or paying over hyped retail tutors to help their children earn C’s.

In all, the funding is just a myth contrived by the education unions that most Americans buy hook, line and sinker.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterHR Professional

@HR Professional "Most “so-called” inner city schools are given more governmental funding than suburban schools"

What's the "so-called" for? It IS in mostly inner cities and rural areas that the schools that are failing. In mostly White suburbs and cities, some of them not even very wealthy, their public schools work just fine or extremely well. Those types of places don't have any charter schools and they aren't clamoring for them either.

I live in Ann Arbor, MI which has a diverse population of Black, Whites, and Asians, with Whites being the majority population. The public schools here are excellent. Some students receive an education that rival's that of a private school. However, if you look at each school individually the more Black students (usually most of them are in a lower SES) that a school has, the lower the scores.

Places like DC, Chicago, Detroit are rife with Black, Hispanic, Arab students who are also mostly poor and have dismal public schools. These children DO need more resources than middle and upper class students. Of course they usually don't get the best buildings, teachers, or equipment.

If charter schools do give students in failing school systems a better education then I'd be all for it. Living near Detroit, I have learned that it's not always the case. As a matter of fact, it is not the case MOST times.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commentersherprin

Folks get back on topic or get off my blog.


I'm not here for your entertainment and you have an entire forum section on the WAOD Network to discuss whatever you want to.

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@ HR Professional, don't get it twisted; the problems with our public schools are various sources, as I stated if you carefully read my post.

Pollyanna who? Not! You have the audacity to refer to unions as extortionist thugs? Think again; remember, it was the working class, the MILITANT, JUSTICE-SEEKING unions that gave us the 8 hour day, end of child labor, sick leave, annual leave, health insurance through your job, etc. True, the union movement is not as strong as it used to be, partly because the are too tied to the Demo-publican Party. The unions in this country had their greatest period of militancy during the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s, than in the last 30 years of this country. Polls of many Black workers, union and non-union, show that most times we are the most supportive of unions as a means of getting and keeping a good job with good benefits, especially those benefits that help you take care of a spouse and children, send your children to college without a lot of loans, etc. The worse things, history, especially labor union history, is not taught in most middle and high schools and not enough in college. Which is a real shame since those who know this history know that is one of the many reasons Dr. King was murdered when he was. In Memphis to help the garbage collectors with their strike, also tied into the Poor People's Campaign. Up to that time, such workers could be paid on a inconsistent basis, be severely injured on the job, such as being crushed by the big trucks, little or no safety equipment and protective clothing, etc.

No person of African descent should ever knowingly mock the labor union movement (yes, we also know it's history of racism, sexism, homophobia, especially about certain jobs, getting cozy with the bosses,etc.), given how many of our parents and grandparents made great strides there. Well, unless you are vying for the overseer role, huh? :)

March 4, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterrevmamaafrika.com

Somebody is about the get banned and once you go on the blacklist you don't come off


Your comments need to be about Toure or his cousin. How we ended up talking about charter schools I will never know, but we have an entire WAOD NETWORK for reader-driven discussions if you aren't interested in what I post about. Use that.

This is a final warning.

March 5, 2010 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I apologize.

March 5, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRevMamaAfrika

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