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Sep152009

It's All About Kanye: Not Donda, Amber, Beyonce, or Taylor


I'm sorry, this has to be said.   As soon as I learned about Kanye West's antics at the VMA's, right after I wondered if it was all a publicity stunt, I knew people would attempt to blame Kanye's behavior on the death of his mother.
West, however, was anything but humorous throughout his three minutes with Leno. He teared up when the talk-show host brought up his late mother, who he lost in November 2007 after a cosmetic surgery gone bad. The rapper addressed his broken engagement and mother's passing into his last album, 808s & Heartbreak, but he's attempted to deal with his emotions onstage rather than behind closed doors.

Now, he appears to be ready to confront some buried pains in private. "I have to analyze how I'm gonna make it through the rest of this life and improve," he said. MTV.com

One small problem, Kanye has been jumping on awards show stages and acting a fool long before his mom passed.  So with all due respect for the Kanye West apologists, I'm going to ask y'all to accept the fact that while he may be grieving, Kanye West has a good old fashioned character flaw. He has a ridiculous sense of entitlement, always has, probably always will.
Reason Kanye Is Over No. 1: He’s an even bigger attention whore than Perez Hilton. And that’s saying something. Says E! Online’s Ted Casablanca, “He knew he was going up against Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, and how do you beat that? That’s what everyone was talking about before the show. He knew it had to be really nasty to take the headlines, and it worked.”

No. 2: He appeared on the cover of Rolling Stone adorned in a crown of thorns. Yeah. Don’t think we have to explain that one.

No. 3: He looks like a weirdo and not in a cool Gaga way. “We got to see the worst haircut since 1984 try to steal the spotlight from lovely Taylor Swift,” Kings of Leon’s Nathan Followill told MTV. Or as Casablanca says, “I feel like his outfit and his stunt sort of matched.”

No. 4: He’s compared himself without irony to icons Michael Jordon, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison and said he would be in the Bible if they wrote it again.

No. 5: He’s apologized twice on his blog now. Like a crazy desperate person. Oh wait. SOURCE

Chris Brown has the same ridiculous sense of entitlement. Chris Brown has the AUDACITY to whine about Oprah Winfrey doing a show on domestic violence and mentioning his VIOLENCE. How you gon' tell Oprah what to talk about on her own show?

He picked Taylor Swift because he thought she was a weak target and could get away with it, much like Black women and girls are targeted everyday... because people know they can get away with it. Apparently nobody explained to Kanye that while the music machine that props up Black male artists acting a dayum fool is okay with Black male artists attacking, ridiculing, and embarrassing BLACK women and girls, there is a line. Clearly he didn't see what happened to Jamie Foxx when he popped off at the mouth about Miley Cyrus.

No doubt, if Kanye had rushed the stage to snatch a Moon man from Ciara, everybody would have laughed it off. If Kanye would have run to the stage to snatch an award from Beyonce back before she got her street cred by marrying a unrepentant drug dealer, I actually think people would have laughed it off. But rushing to the stage to snatch an award from Taylor swift? Negro PLEEEZ. Let me explain something to you. Country music fans still purchase records. they aren't bootlegging. As Sandra Rose put it:
Maybe it’s me but it seems like this is the first major awards show in a long time where the emphasis was placed more on rock acts and country music acts than hip hop artists.

Taylor Swift has sold over 10 million albums collectively in the world this year and she holds the record for song downloads this year: 20 million. Meanwhile, Jay Z sold around 350K measly copies of his album The Blueprint 3 in the first week. And he may not go gold before Christmas. Sandra Rose

In other words, she's more valuable to the music industry than YOU ARE. You see  Kayne may think Taylor's video wasn't as good as Beyonce's video because he can't seem to appreciate a music video where a woman isn't running around scantily clad popping, dropping, and flopping her goodies around. Oh and did I mention that CMT and MTV are in the same  corporate  family?

To everybody saying that what is about to happen to Kanye isn't fair or is RACIST (y'all know that's coming) my response if this: If Kanye's enablers had put their collective feet down a long time ago, then the industry wouldn't have to be doing this for them.  Kanye seems to have forgotten what happened to Janet Jackson. Viacom and CBS ERASED her  after her infamous Superbowl performance while Justin Timberlake went on his merry little way.

So as the "community" rallies to save Kanye from himself, all I ask is that you spend as much time defending Kanye as you spent defending Janet Jackson which is NOT MUCH.

Also, all of you screeching trying to blame Amber Rose for the decline of Kanye, you have it reverse. Amber isn't a "cause" she is an "effect." Amber is playing the role Kanye "hired" her to play. She's a prop, just like that bottle of cheap liquor he was carrying around. Amber appears to have the instincts of a survivor so I suspect any day now, she's going to take her catsuits and contact lenses and bounce.

So sorry, I'm rejecting all of the excuses. Its not his Mama's fault. It's not Taylor Swift's fault. It's not MTV's fault or racism's fault, this is all on Kanye. DO what's best for him and let him deal with the consequences now. Because eventually, to paraphrase the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Kanye's  enabler's chickens are going to come home to roooooost.

PPS. I expect any day for Russell Simmons to have his ghostwriter over at Global Slime pen a message about forgiveness, but you will NEVER see him pen a piece about a false sense of entitlement or accountability.

Reader Comments (50)

And what's with the Amber hate?

Amber is not an "effect" or a "cause" for all that matters. Wealthy, successful, powerful men often have hot women as girlfriends.

And particularly if your sexuality is in question (and you're an attention whore) you get a super sexy chick who's uber fly and makes a great accessory.

Black women's reaction to Amber always cracks me up. It's the same with white women and Megan Fox.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

I didn't get that ANYONE was blaming Kanye's mother for his outrageous behavior. What I saw and read was a rebuke.

Jay asked, "What would your mother think of all this?"

I interpreted that to mean that since Kanye has always publicly given his mother KUDOS that she perhaps would have been EMBARRASSED by her son's behavior... what a terrible way to honor her memory by him making a jackass of himself.

Even if Kanye is a total douchebag, in the very least the upbringing and lesson he was taught by his mother... not to mentio his professed love, admiration, and respect for her and her legacy, should have compelled him to exercise restraint.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

The good thing is that I think what you wrote is the general sentiment of people, its only a small element that always cries racism that is taking up for Kanye. For a moment I did blame Amber Rose a little b/c she is supposedly his girlfriend and she was sitting there drinking the "brown juice" with him, I figured at least she should be looking out for him. But then I figured what she was doing for a living before she met Kanye and I realized yes she is just a prop, not necessarily a significant other

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterblkchik

This time around I didn't see a ton of apologists coming out of the woodwork. I saw a few people mention his mom's death as a reason, but I think most people (at least in my age group) who are up on technology know that Kanye has always been crazy. Personally, I think it was staged. The Jay Leno appearance the next day was way too convenient for me. It baffles me that someone would actually blame her for a grown man's actions.

"Amber appears to have the instincts of a survivor so I suspect any day now, she’s going to take her catsuits and contact lenses and bounce."

I mentioned this from the beginning to a few of my friends when she first appeared on the radar. Rose has already signed a contract with Ford Models and has been doing a number of paid solo appearances without him. I believe she has a clear strategy planned for life after Kanye. And they are both gaining from their "arrangement".

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDani

Corrected: Please delete of ignore the post above.

This time around I didn’t see a ton of apologists coming out of the woodwork. I saw a few people mention his mom’s death as a reason, but I think most people (at least in my age group) who are up on technology know that Kanye has always been crazy. Personally, I think it was staged. The Jay Leno appearance the next day was way too convenient for me.

“Amber appears to have the instincts of a survivor so I suspect any day now, she’s going to take her catsuits and contact lenses and bounce.”

I mentioned this from the beginning to a few of my friends when she first appeared on the radar. Rose has already signed a contract with Ford Models and has been doing a number of paid solo appearances without him. I believe she has a clear strategy planned for life after Kanye. And they are both gaining from their “arrangement”. It baffles me that someone would actually blame her for a grown man’s actions.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDani

I read it elsewhere and it bears repeat mention--I love how folks--celebs and otherwise, both white and black, are quick to punish Kanye with their hate and vitriol but when it was about Chris Brown and Rihanna, Lord forbid--we didn't and still don't know the whole story. Hardly anyone wanted to speak up about anything in that regard. The little white girl is disrespected by someone who has a reputation for disrespecting folks and its all out war. But with Chris, we still don't know his side to the story--Rihanna may have deserved it--started it even.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterelle B

I saw plenty of apologists who are surprise surprise mostly black folk out of step with reality of how the rest of the world operates and they're still defending Kayne. I'm glad he's getting rebuked. Even the president called him a quote "jackass" so all those who nod at everything Obama does without question should then be jumping on the bandwagon in holding Kanye accountable.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFaith

By the way I like Taylor Swift. Considering what her music industry peers are doing her wholesome image is a nice change of pace and she still sells bucket loads of records.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFaith

Grief is difficult and its hard to do in public, so I hope he finds the supportive care he needs. If you've heard any of his music you know what a mama's boy he is. I'm sure in a world of such fake friendships and relationships it hard to loose one of the only real people in your life. Having said all that, Kanye still needs to get it together. His crazy antics are wearing our patience thin. This is not the first time he's done something like this. If kanye was a woman he'd be reffered to as an emotional trainwreck. He needs get it together. No one is responsible for his actions but him. Period.

I agree that had this been Ciara or Keyshia Cole no one would've cared. Mtv probrably would have let him stay and this story would have been gone. Messing w/ a white girl still comes with greater consequences in our society and mtv is aware of that. The overwhelming amount of racist tweets that popped off after his incident confirm that as well. If only messing w/ us brought about such outrage...smh.

I will say however that most black people I've come across were horrified by his behavior! I haven't seen too many kanye apologist. Yes there are some people discussing the racist language used towards him after the incident (rightfully so), but compared to janet it's night and day. I recall janet having far more defenders. People still defend her to this day. Radio shows, black blogs, commenters etc. I've come across are blaming him, as they should.

The one thing that has annoyed me more than anything is this alleged "outrage" from mtv and the industry. People like Pink, who have made entire videos making fun of stars they don't deem "smart" enough and trash talking on a regular basis, stepping on their high horse to bash kanye!? Or mtv, who MANUFACTURES this drama at their awards on a regular basis, somehow acting like they condone or encourage this nonsense. Or the enitre audience, who watched Lady Gaga simulate suicide, somehow "clutch their pearls" at Kanye. All of these celebs are ego maniacs and when you have and industry that is almost singularly devoted to SHOCK VALUE, its not surpising that people like kanye act a damn fool--it more often rewarded than not.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commenteriman

I just love all the apologizing he's doing to Taylor Swift. I wonder when he will apologize for calling light-skinned black women mutts?

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNia

Luckily the people who are defending Kanye are in the extreme minority in this instance. Only a handful of jerks, really.

My problem with what Kanye did was that it smacked of and insider/outsider dymanic. I hate cliquey insider-ishness. Kanye targeted TS because she's new and not-yet-established, though quite popular. Beyonce is one of the cool kids in Kanye's mind, as is he, as is Jay, and a number of others. he thinks some silly outsider doesn't deserve to win an award over one fo his insider compadres (in this case, Beyonce, but it could well have been Jay, or Pharrell, or Janet, etc. - he probably would have done the same in any of those cases.)

Like I said on another site, if Kanye had done that to someone who's more of a peer to him: someone as old as he is, someone as established as he is, etc, I think the general reaction would not have been as strong as it's been - I know mine wouldn't have been. But I found myself very pissed when he did it. If I had been Taylor I would have kicked him in the shins and then spit in his face right there. Psych nawl, I'm not that gangsta - but I would have wanted to!

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterScipio Africanus

@ Nia, thanks for that reminder! :)

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRevMamaAfrika

You spoke so much truth about this! Personally, it looked a little staged to me and my mind went immediately to that Eminem/Sasha Baron Cohen event at the movie awards.

I've seen some black gossip blogs giving 'Ye the benefit of the doubt at the same time they so viciously tear down black female celebrities and rappers.

We are very hard on each other and I take that to mean that we hate the image we see of ourselves in public. Or we want to become these women.

What are black men going to do when they've lost the support of black women forever? So many of us will give up our own lives to come to the defense of these clowns and most of them don't even like the way we look. We don't even see that we're being played.

Superstar media folks, rappers and entertainers cannot let go. You have rappers who are 45 years old that simply will not go away because they're trying to compete with dead rap legends. It's very sad. This is just another example of the unraveling process.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterEve

@Nia

He did that already. Issued an apology after mutt-gate.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

Dani,

Given the general triflingness of the music industry... I wuldn't be surprised if all of this was a bad borat-like sketch that had some unintended consequences.. or not.

In show biz all publicity is supposedly good publicity...

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

I'm glad he's getting this slap down by mainstream America. Donald Trump is on his case, they got him crying on Jay Leno. White men aren't going to just sit by and let you bogard her like that, negro, the way black men let folks do their women. Taylor is CMT's darling, negro. You don't be jumping up on stage with that vulnerable little white girl, bringing her to tears, stealing her sunshine. You ain't all that. These rich young black "boys" are just getting beside themselves.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commenteramarillo

Wow, you really think folks would laugh it off if he did this to a black female performer?

I don't know...

What he did was so unbelievably rude that I think, no matter who he did it to, there would have been backlash against him.

I'm not really a fan of his anyway, and as you said, the death of his mother aside, the kid's got entitlement issues.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterShadow And Act

On another site, I was reading that Kanye West was supposed to be some musical genius, so I went to find some of his lyrics...since it's not really my type of music...am I overlooking the genius???

Lyrics...

There must be more good women than men percentage wise
So her chance of having a husband just minimize
That's why a lot of girls claim they ain't into guys
And mess with other girls part time to improvise
I knew she wouldn't vibe
No I seen her inner eyes
But I'm like any other guy trying to get in her thighs
She telling me about how black people should enterprise

-------------------------
I'm really missing the hype.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterYme

This whole thing was ridiculous.I feel it was staged but at the same time I don't like Kanye so i'm just kinda sittin back like whatever.Kanye is disrespectful to black women Taylor is protected by white priviledge and I don't like Beyonce' for some of the same reasons I don't like Kanye.So yeah i'm just sittin back not caring about what happens to none of them concerning their careers ,good or bad, cept' me at the moment.Sounds a little selfish but oh well.@Yme Kanye is the genious of being egotistical next to D.Trump

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTruth p.

@YME

Uh...that's just one set of lyrics...but lyrics aren't where his true talent lies...it's his producing skills that are supreme....his musicality.

But what does that have to do with anything...

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

O I guess we can remove JJ's photo from the back of the comment's section milk carton.

Whew where shall I start... Regarding your comments about Amber, didn't you and I say the same exact thing? Except you won't cop to it. I said, people can't blame Amber and her catsuits for Kanye's outburst. I'm actually indifferent to Amber and seeing as how she's being groomed to be Russell Simmons next paramour, I could care less about who she is dating.

Good luck with that, we all know how this story ends.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

NOTE FROM THE BLOG ADMINISTRATOR** You purport to be a JD/MD yet cannot express yourself without cursing. So here's the deal. You won't be telling anybody anything on this blog. BYE! Come back when you can act your G.P.A. **

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKim

@JJ
Quote: "but lyrics aren’t where his true talent lies…"

I've looked at more than one set of lyrics. You're right...I don't see true talent there. I don't see any talent there.

Quote: "it’s his producing skills that are supreme….his musicality"

Oooooh, his musicality. Yes, I'm reading about that, now. It's kind of drowning under his personality, at the moment.

Quote: "But what does that have to do with anything…"

True. His tacky lyrics have really nothing to do with his outrageous outbreaks...or do they?

Maybe he's just tacky...when he's not exuding musical brilliance, of course.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterYme

Well, I think President Obama summed it up best when he referred to Kanye as a "jackass." At least that's one thing we can all agree on.

Here's the audio clip in case anyone missed it.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-a-jackass/

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDuane

JJ wrote:

"Black women’s reaction to Amber always cracks me up. It’s the same with white women and Megan Fox."

Fox gets a lot of flack because she lacks class and smarts. Check out accounts from cast and crew on the last Transformers flick who had to work with her:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1213383/Megan-Fox-dumb-rock-claim-Transformers-film-crew.html#ixzz0R86OKUO6

It's fair to say that Fox is as embarrassing to White women as Black video vixens are to Black women.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFred

@Faith

TMZ just released the audio of President Obama's exact words:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-a-jackass/

Ouch!

This is one of the few times I'm in complete agreement with the President.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFred

@gem2001

Now things are heating up.

A blogger at Big Hollywood thinks that Swift could sue Kanye for damages:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jescalante/2009/09/15/kanye-west-vs-joe-wilson/

If this happens, West's street cred (whatever that means) is shot.

September 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFred

In agreement with post #3 by blkchic, especially the 1st sentence. And I think that because I like (some of) his music, I didn't notice that he was an attention whore until AFTER his mother's passing, when the antics became worse. So my idea of when it started is different.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSpinster

You all keep mentioning how if Kanye would have done this to a black woman, nothing would be done. Well, you're right. BLACK WOMEN WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TO TAKE A BULLET FOR KANYE WEST. That's all we know how to do.

Kanye's "musical genius" does not excuse his antics. He's been doing this forever. He just crossed the line. Hopefully, he'll go away forever. I'm sorry but we have tons of TRULY talented black men who exercise self control.

But America's obsession and exploitation of ignorant black people continues. Kanye West is dumb as bricks. Arrogant to boot. He's a monkey white folks love to give center stage too. Unfortunately, the monkey turned around and bit them. lol So, now they don't want to see the little monkey no more. lol ... lol ... lol..

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMiss Thang

Kanye is good with beats etc., but he receives a FAIL because of his overall attitude towards others. Yes, I know he is still greiving over his mother, but destroying anothers moment is wrong.

What does disturb me about the entire situation is that non of his male peers confronted him about his behavior. Men confront men and tell them what is expected and what won't be accepted.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNikita

What Kanye did was extremely ignorant but what about Serena Williams. What she did was equally ignorant if not more so. Where is the criticism regarding her on your blog? What these two fools don't realize is that they are not just representing themselves. They are representing their people. You can't go on international tv and act like a millionaire hood rat whether its an ego trip on stage or a profanity laced tantrum.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterStriker

I was dumbfounded behind Serena's behavior, as well...she is already being forced to deal with some of the consequences of her behavior.

The only reason I don't have the same level of disdain is that Serena plays tennis.

After hearing so much about Kanye's musical genius, I decided to check out the songs he sings and I assume write. He is consistently degrading to black women. Part of his wealth building process is achieved by producing garbage. Yes, Kanye knows a beat. Yes, he's produced real music for "other" people. But, some of what "he's" created for himself is just crap and is worth only flushing.

I'm sick artists who make their living degrading women and girls. Serena immaturely cursed out a judge. Kanye "builds wealth" consistently by supplying black people with garbage. I see a difference. No one else has to see that difference. That's just fine with me. It was definitely poor behavior on both parts.

Ignorance is one thing...systematic degradation that's a whole new ball game for me.

I'm racking my brain to try and compare what he calls songs with what I used to listen to...trying in vain to at least give him the benefit of the doubt.

I grew up listening to Michael Jackson, the Gap Band, Keith Sweat, Earth, Wind & Fire, Lakeside...MC Hammer...I just don't see it. I'm sorry. If I was his mother (and I am sorry for his loss, I really am)...I would want to wash his mouth out with soap and water and ask him what the hell is he thinking. Is this crap really rolling around in his head?

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterYme

well, since we're discussing hip hop, for an example of real hip hop, true to the history and culture, promoting activism for social justice and just over all great, powerful, inspiring, empowering music, please check out Michael Franti & Spearhead, http://www.michaelfranti.com and check out his latest cd "All Rebel Rockers" and his videos. Some of us older hip hop heads may remember him from the Disposable Heroes of Hiphopcrisy from back in the day. I'm embarassed that some of our people don't encourage or promote his music, but I guess some folks think if it doesn't have bitches, bling, money, sex and violence, then it's not real hip hop, it's not "keeping it real." OH MY HOW FAR WE SLAVES HAVE COME." :(

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRevMamaAfrika

Serena doesn't have a pattern of bad behavior. She isn't a good example to use in this case. Kanye has a habit of acting out at this very award show and elsewhere. Stricker don't try to compare the two. Isn't it typical within the black community that you try to defend indefensible behavior when it comes to black males eg. Chirs Brown, Vick, OJ etc.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterstella

Striker,

What about Serena? 2 words: JOHN MCENROE. Serena has won nearly twice the grand slam titles that he has and when it all said and done will be inducted into the tennis hall of fame just as McEnroe was.

McEnroe received endorsemen deals for his hot temper and it became a part of his brand. The fact that you DIDN't mention this means you are ignorant of tennis history or guilty of applying a double standard. Which one is it?

(Sorry for getting off topic, but I couldn't let that one go.)

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

First of all I can go back to Althea Gibson and Arthur Asheand Althea Garrisson as far as Tennis History. Second, if you read what I said I'm not letting Kanye off the hook at all. What Kanye did was ignorant. Period. Third I'm saying that what Serena did was equally as ignorant. Equally is the operative word and I'm not concerned what John McEnroe and Jimmy Connors did. They aren't my folks. They were ignorant white men and they are going to get endorsments because white folks are going to look after their interests first. Winning more championships doesn't excuse her behavior. I'm talking about behavior not her tennis expertise. Her tennis expertise is without question. As far as double standard. This is not about picking sides. If a man's behavior is more egregious than a woman's he needs to be checked and vice versa. As far as Oj and Chris Brown ,especially OJ...they all got what they deserved. I'm not defending any of those idiots.If you're thinking that I'm someone who defends ignorant black men you got the wrong guy. If I was I wouldn't be referring this webvsite to my male and female friends and I wouldn't have conducted vigilante activities against black men that abused their communities in years past.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterStriker

The post wasn't talking about Serena Williams, get over it. I was going to post about Serena on Friday along with Cheronda Guyton, the women of Acorn, those idiot children on the school bus beating up the Withe student and a bunch of other foolishness, but since you have decided to attempt to be the managing editor of WAOD I'm scrapping that post. From what I could see NOBODY was making excuses for Serena Williams except Boyce Watkins, and he's just doing it for attention, and y'all can tell him I said that so he can write another stalkerish blog post about me.

The point of THIS post is that THIS MAN is responsible for his actions and not the women whose skirts he attempts to hide behind. You have an agenda. Tha agenda is to drag this thread off topic. My agenda is to provide a space for comments about what I posted about. If you don't like what I posted about or think I should post about something else, then do what THOUSANDS of other readers do each month do and lurk or hit the contact button and suggest a story idea.

You don't pay ANY of the bills 'round here.

Stay on topic people, or move along. If you don't like what I blog about START YOUR OWN BLOG!

Choose to reply back if you wanna, but it will be your last comment up in here.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Kanye was a JACKASS. I totally agree with President Obama. Kanye has a pattern (even when his mother was alive) of acting like a fool at WHITE award shows. I don't think he has ever tried one of those crazy antics at the BET awards. He might not make it out of there if he tried that mess.

September 16, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMs AKA

There's a post on another popular blog that blames Kanye's behavior on a desire for Black people who grew up middle class to prove their street cred by showing their behinds whenever possible. I do not understand why whenever high profile Black men do something stupid or cruel, there are some Black people who want to lessen their load by attributung their behavior to groups of Black people.

I think Kanye is mentally ill on top of being ignorant (not saying they are the same thing), and he personifies everything wrong about the average dumb rapper. I also read on a music blog where his fans are disappointed in him; and that "he is such a musical genius" it's a shame he has done this-imo any reference to West as a genius is more offensive than any of his tantrums.

September 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDelphine Blue

gem2001

My intent was not to drag things off topic just to establish some balance. sorry if i jumped the gun.Regardless of what you think I think that you are doing a fantastic job bringing these issues to the forefront becacuse these are things that people don't want to talk about in our community.Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions.If Emmanuel Wesley Murray had been killed by a white man folks would be up in arms. So even though we had some miscommunication I applaud and support what you do.Keep on taking it to the people that are degrading our communities and people. What you're doing is long overdue. We need to understand one thing however.This country is balkanizing slowly but surely. Its starting to divide up into ethnic camps dispite the election of Obama and much of the anger is directed towars us, which is why we're seeing more racial assaults. My agenda is to improve relations between us African Americans because we are going to need it. This will be my last message. Good luck.

September 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterStriker

And for the record calling a Bob Fosse inspired routine with women in leotards, dance tights and dance shoes a, "woman...running around scantily clad popping, dropping, and flopping her goodies around," is BEYOND wrong.

Are you serious?

No Broadway much for you huh?

Caberet? Chorus Line? Pippen?

Flopping goodies around?

A Bob Fosse routine?

SMH

September 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

@jj

first certain portions were certainly STOLEN from other works, but I think the pelvic butter churning move was circa Beyonce 2009.

but its nice to know I won our original argument since you moved on to another angle of attack.

September 17, 2009 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@gem2001

There was no argument.

And there was no "other angle of attack."

You can't "steal" dance routines when clearly she acknowledged what the source material was.

September 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

Amber Rose did NOT jump on that stage and act a fool. Kanye did. Case closed. Beyonce did NOT put her name in his mouth. Kanye did. Case closed. Kanye has proven himself to be 1. disrespectful for calling out Beyonce without her permission. 2. selfish for stealing the limelight from an award winner. 3. mean for taking the mic from someone he knew wouldn't fight him or "black his eye" like say P!nk or 50 cent ( or anybody else with 22" biceps). 4. heartless for doing something that got his girlfriend embarrassed and kicked out of the building on "guilt by association" (bet she wouldn't have gone with him if she knew he would act a damn jackass). 5. stupid for not realizing that Beyonce could win an even bigger award later (as she did)! THIS IS ALL KANYE'S FAULT. He needs to crawl under a rock and die!

September 17, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGOD

We're definately not seeing the same thing how many Kanye apologists have you come across, not one person (and I have ALOT of black friends) I've spoken to thinks what he did was excusable, let me repeat that no one is defending what he did. What I do find amusing is that he pulled a Joe Wilson and the whole world is upside down about it but people just moved on with Joe.. it's damn near a week later + about 4 Kanye apologies and Kanye's actions are still being talked about. Kanye deserved to be trashed it was inappropiate and absurd just like Joe Wilson...wish everyone cared about civility in politics as much as they seem to in the VMA's. Joe, Kanye, all jerks and I've spent too much time on both already...

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterinsightmillions

Jay-Z defended him. Kanye had this coming for a long time. His behavior whether at a live telethon, awards show or other public function has almost always been atrocious. This post was about Kanye not Joe Wilson.

September 19, 2009 | Unregistered Commentertrish

A black man can't get any credit here. Why doesn't anyone acknowledge that Kanye, in his flawed and ignorant way, called himself coming to the defense of a black woman? He went up there, in his mind, to speak up for a sista that he felt had be treated unjustly. None of you will ever go there. It's always going to be a glass half empty when it comes to a black man.

And if a white male had gone up and taken the mic from a black woman declaring that some white woman's video should have won, a riot would have likely broken out and we would have heard black folks, male and female, crying about this until the end of days.

This nonsense about black women not being cherished by the black community is a myth. White conservatives cry an moan because they believe that black men victimize white women and no one makes a stink whereas if a white man victimizes a black woman, all hell breaks loose with marches, Sharpton, Jackson, ritots, etc. It's all about perception.

September 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTolliver

@Tolliver

Is that what you call coming to the aid of a black woman? If Beyonce didn't invite Taylor Swift onstage to make her speech she would still have to be doing damage control. Kanye's antics were rude and uncouth and your failure to acknowledge that is amazing. I don't think this blog coddles, or excuses any black man for his stupid behavior.

September 23, 2009 | Unregistered Commentertrish

Because if he was thinking about Beyonce in any way, shape or form, he wouldn't have embarrassed her like that. Period.

If he is so defensive of black women why didn't he step up at the BET awards and grab the mic from 'weezy' and tell him that black women deserve better.

Nope, he's a punk and a bully.
He chose to show up and got put in his place real quick.
The fact that you are defending the indefensible is really wack, weak and complete BS.

Grow up!
Don't you ever get tired of your perpetual whinning about 'black man can't get a break'.
Give yourselves a collective break and grow up.
I can't say this enough.
Grow up and act like grown folks.

I like Kanye's beats, I actually even like his flow, but he's attention seeking nonsense is beyond a joke.
Black women don't need black men to bully other people to show us you care.

Black women need black men to stop treating us like property, stop constantly trying to speak for us like we don't know our own minds, stop trying to bully us, abuse us or guilt trip us into whatever BS you've decided to whine about on any give day.

You are not the only one's suffering from racism in the world, us black women suffer to and then to add to it we have to deal with your disapproval, showing us up and acting like you don't have any darn sense.

Kanye was drunk and wrong. Stop enabling this craziness because of your chromosomes.

September 23, 2009 | Unregistered Commentersoul

@Tolliver

"He went up there, in his mind, to speak up for a sista that he felt had be treated unjustly."

Kanye went up there for Kanye. If Kanye wants to help black women, he can stop making music that degrades them...

September 23, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterYme

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