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Sep012008

Obama Repudiates Lib Bloggers on Palin's Son and Daughter..As I predicted

I called it yesterday when several WAOD commentors brought the ridiculous rumor that Sarah Palin's fifth child, Trig, was actually her grandson and son of her teenage daughter. Well, its kinda hard to be pregnant TWICE at the same time! When Trig was born, Palin's daughter was 1 month pregnant. How do we know this? Because Palin revealed today that her daughter is pregnant. Obama, as I predicted, was asked about the conspiracy theories about Palin being spread by those purporting to be his supporters and this is his response:
"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

On charges that his campaign has stoked the story via liberal blogs:

"I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us," he said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired."

John McCain was/is on track to lose this election why on earth would you want to trigger a New Hampshire effect? Doesn't Obama have enough to battle without battling a sympathy vote as well?  As I stated previously, McCain watched the Democratic primary. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he selected Palin. It's a trap that the Democrats are walking right into. Ignore her an target voters. McCain would love it if this election became a referendum on politician's families and not about policy.

Leave this Palin's children out of this. It's a trap! This is not the last of this story. Thanks a bunch acolytes!

Oh yeah, and Palin's husband had a DWI arrest 24 years ago. Y'all will go overboard with that one as well because having a DWI arrest keeps folks out of the White House.

Reader Comments (64)

"Oh yeah, and Palin’s husband had a DWI arrest 24 years ago. Y’all will go overboard with that one as well because having a DWI arrest keeps folks out of the White House."

Yeah, that one shouldn't go far, either.

The man is 44 or 45, now! So, as a 20 year old, he got a DWI. 1) Not the candidate AND 2) How many of us want to start that list on things we did when we were 20.

We can win on the issues. Namely, the economy, free trade, healthcare issues. Just me, but I don't think the energy issue is going to do much for us, either.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYme

Hopefully people will stfu and get back to focusing on issues and policies, registering people to vote and stop the gossip.

I also want to add that for all the criticism Obama gets from some Black members of the intelligentsia why do I NEVER hear this same discourse against Dr. Rice? party affiliation should not determine holding people accountable. Or are their other motives at play?

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterFaith

My issue with Palin's daughter's pregnancy and the fact that we are now finding out is that how many times did Michelle have to say that she had values! How many times!! America had no problem bombarding their black church community. People assumed that because they are black people, that they do not have values and this is a longhel racist ideology and stereotype. However people have no problem saying....leave Palin's family alone and that the daughter made a mistake.

You think that if Malia or Sasha were pregnant, they would let it go. You know all the racist stereotypes and perceptions that they would pull out of the hat so that their would never be able to show their face again. However there is all this compassion for the white girl. Gina, please see through this for what it is.

I love how America esp. the conservatives have so much mouth to call blacks and all blacks dysfunctional if something like this was to happen: irresponsible! morally bankrupt! no morals! no personal responsiblity! but it is okay for Palin and her family as well as other whites.

Nope. not in my book.

Second, Palin is an advocate of abstinence and she is against sex education in schools. However, he family is a testament to the fact that it does not work and she probably is not the best advocate.

The republican party is the so called party of values...really??

This stinks of double standards and hypocrisy.

This country is hypocritical, racist and disgusting and I have no problem airing out her family because I know that she and the rest of those protecting her would have no problem doing it to me or people of my hue.

So she could go back under her rock with her support for Pat Buchanan (a rabid racist...if you are familiar with much of what he has said and his writings).

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRhondaCoca

I have to disagree. I think the the liberals should go after this hypocrisy with a vengence. This is a woman who opposes sex education in schools. She touts Christian values and has preached family values. But her unwed, teenage daughter is pregnant and off limits? Nope, I don't think soo. The Republicans have gone after Michelle with a vengence. They've gone after Obama's children. But now it's a Republican, the kids are off limits?

If black people and white people can vilify and crucify black girls from the ghetto who get pregnant, I don't understand why white girls are off limits.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYeah

where have you people been living? we have always had to play by different rules. black women have never been viewed as damsels in distress. therefor when michelle was targeted people sttod by and watched. in the same way that little black girls go missing and noone gives a rip. but this is politics. rules and fairness don't apply. they should, but they don't.

so go ahead and go for blood, but when it rebounds back on Obama don't say I didn't tell you so. We don't play by the same rules. Never have. Never will.
@faith, people should be bringing up that Buchannan connection, but it will be drowned out be the foolishness.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterginamobi

Thank You, Yeah! That is how I feel and I am sure Gina would agree since her blog is dedicated to black girls, young black women and black women. There is a double standard in our society and this is a reflection.

Remeber they had no problem dragging Michelle through the mud and demanded that she proved she had "values".

They had no problem destroying a church community for political gain.

Please.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRhondaCoca

Well, Things stay the same because no one tries to challenge things. Sorry but I refuse to ignore this. It's hypocritical on a lot of levels.

People are a fool if they think people vote on issues. Anybody ever hear of George W. Bush? Sorry, folks but it's the low information voters who have been determining our elections. They respond to "issues" like lapel pins, Rev Wright, Michelle's "really proud" comment, and images of people hugging the flag and yelling U.S.A. Those are the inbreds that are determining our elections. They love negative ads and feed off tabloid gossip.

Sorry but this is a weak spot for the Obama camp to exploit if they do it right.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYeah

Going to have to agree with Rhoda and Yeah. I say go after this and anything else. We've got to remember that they dug into Mrs. Obama's past and they're still looking for anything damning. This is politics and politics is a dirty business unfortunately. If the candidate's closets are clean, they've got nothing to worry about.

Btw, I'm glad Sen. Obama made a statement condemning this even if he "doesn't believe what he's saying."

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterlormarie

Yeah said "People are a fool if they think people vote on issues. Anybody ever hear of George W. Bush? Sorry, folks but it’s the low information voters who have been determining our elections."

Now THAT I can agree with. Democrats keep thinking they ought to win because they have better issues and better candidates yet they keep losing. Just like all of these people who say McCain won't pick up any additional women's votes because of Palin because of the abortion. People don't vote on issues. They vote on how they FEEL. If you make them FEEL sympathy for Palin then trust that they will cast a sympathy vote.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I co-sign that, Gina. It's great to have principles; but there's also got to be room for pragmatism. Do I disdain the double standard that is at play in this story? Yes. But I also know that harping on Ms. Bristol's pregnancy will only make her mother more of a victim, currying her even more favor with conservative-to-moderate white women.

This is also why I don't fret over Obama's placation of liberal white dillusions of their own absolution from the ongoign ravages of racism. Would I like for him to tell it like it T-I-is? Of course? But, you know what I'd like better? I'd like to have a president who won't continue to spend billions of dollars securing the interests of mult-national corporations and his billionaire friends who run them, but insteadn spends just a little bit of money restoring the Departments of Education, Labor, Health & Human Services, and Housing & Urban Development back to full strength. Not to mention a president who might just repair the Department of Injustice and nominate a Supreme Court justice or two who actually believes in civil rights and the responsibility of the courts to defend the victims in society instead.

I don't think Obama is a perfect candidate. And I don't expect him to solve all of my problems. But, as imperfect as he is, he has the chance to reshape the federal government into a friend (never the initiator/source - governments never are) of progressive reform in this country.

For that chance, I'm willing to swallow a lot. It's a bitter pill, I know. But, it's a pill that true fiscal conservatives swallow when they vote for W. and that true social conservatives swallow when they support McCain because they know that winning with a stomach ache is better than losing.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterteddy

I agree with gem2001. And, I've read several of your posts where you try to point out to Obamabots that attacking Palin and/or using tactics perceived as sexist will not win Obama the election. Whether Blacks want to admit it or not, but McCain out-maneuvered Obama by naming Palin. Already on the news outlets, white women are touting Palin for being so stoic about the pregnancy issue of her daughter and shaming the Dems for trying to politicize a "private family matter." (Not my words, theirs). And, they are asking Dem bloggers to "stand down" and leave the 17-yr old alone. So, I' agree with you, gem2001, this is going to backfire on the Dem and Obama if they continue to harp on it.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBlackScorpio

I still say we can win on the issues. I didn't like it when they attempted to drag Michelle through the mud. I do want the Obama's kids "off limits", not only today, but as they grow up in the White House.

I also want Palin's kids, off limits. Her children aren't setting policy. If nothing else, Palin's daughters situation isn't unique. Make no mistake, it would resonate with many women. (Sympathy) Let this woman cry "one time" on TV and I think we're toast.

As for being an advocate for abstinence, is this really the talking point we want to crucify her on. To date, it still is the only thing that works to reduce sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies. Believe it or not, I read a study that showed a high percentage of people used condoms incorrectly. ??? I know, shocked me, too.

Palin's daughter isn't proof that abstinence doesn't work. She's proof that not being abstinent, doesn't work. As for sex education in schools, the schools in my area are failing miserably in math, science, and English. Why should I trust they would do any better at sex education?

I think people do vote based on important issues, when they know what the issues are. Aren't we supposed to be proof of that? When I consider the needs of my family, I think of how my mother would benefit from a better healthcare system. I want my children to grow up as beneficiaries in a stronger economy. I think free trade has brought us faulty toys, bad tomatoes, and fewer jobs. Although, my husband and I are prior military, we have 4 sons and not a single one are we willing to donate to John McCain at the moment to start a war with Iran.

These are issues that I'm "feeling". If there really is a "double" standard, what makes us think, we can do exactly what they do and succeed. Following that logic, wouldn't this only work, if the standard was the same?

I think it would be political suicide to get anywhere near her children and their lives. My father's advice, shake McCain for everything he's worth, and at best ignore Palin. At worst, find chinks in her armour that deal with real issues that resonate with real people.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYme

I think I am through with my political posts. You can't get someone to a place of political maturity in 8 weeks. It is futile to even try.

But for a group of people that tried to police the thoughts of so many other people throughout the campaign, it is mind blowing that 8 weeks from the presidency, they seem incapable of policing themselves.

I suggest you tune into talk radio tomorrow. Its going to be ugly I can hear the cries of outrage on behalf of Palint from Hannity, Rush and whomever.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Well, I disagree. I think we should harp on it. I don't think the Obama's camp should but the bloggers should point out how hypocritical this is.

Sorry, but "friends" of Obama should exploit the hell out of this.

We all know if this was one of Obama's girls this would be all over conservative talk radio. I'm not concerned about a few women on CNN in talking smack. This hypocritical issue should somehow be messaged and aimed at low-information voters. They respond to stuff like this.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYeah

Listen, I am not posting about this on my blog or picketing but I have a problem with double standards and I have no problem if someone who is not affiliated with the campaign asks about the double standard.

She is marketing herself as a family values women.

Also for the commentor, teaching only abstinence has proven not to work. I believe that children should get sex education and learn about the risks of engaging in sexual activity esp. unprotected sexual activity. This is a direct contradiction to her positions on such topics. Its obvious from her family situation that it is not the most effective.

I love all the defenses for the young white girl...if this was one of the Obama's daughter's, the media and everyone would go...to hell with Gustav and the people on the Gulf Coast. There would be a "Baby Mama Drama" headline up all day.

I never stated that Obama should say anything. He needs to stay on message...duh. Nobody has to personally get ugly with the family but someone outside of the campaign or in the media should discuss it and not let the republicans get away with the spin.

Black people have proven themselves to be a worthless constituency...worthless.

You think that the Republicans worried about racism when they exploited a flourishing church community or when they use racially insensitive tactics.

Many women esp. liberal women are viewing this as hypocritical.

I personally do not talk about politics so I do not bother but this is so glaring it bites.

Mabye some of you should head over to the conservative blogs and read what they say about blacks in the same situation.

I would like for them to extend their compassion

This is not about Obama, it is about double standards. He does not have to address it because he does not have to.

Nobody said that Obama should not win on the issues. That is precisely what his campaign is trying to do.

However I am viewing this as another example of our society's racial hypocrisy.

P.S. Winning on the issues is race baiting using your own people in a black church. Iraq, Homeland Security and perpetuating the image of black men as deadbeats. All of that is truly politcal ground esp. the last one.

P.S.S.

Hannity, O'Reilly and the rest love to pull out any questionable statistics about black out-of-wedlock childbirth or teenage preganancy. Black parents are no good...bad parents! Black people are morally bankrupt...look! look!

They have no values yet look at who they are supporting for one of the heightest officies in the land.

If I was them I wouldn't touch this either and hope for it to go away. They really actually don't have a leg to stand on unless they chose to prove their racism and double standards.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRhondaCoca

I was never in support for all the rumors I was reading on not only liberal blogs but gossip and celebrity blogs. I paid it no mind but this is true with a statement from the family.

Also Gina, I agree that you should avoid such issues on your blog. I would like to hear about what is going on in the world of black women and girls since I am actually looking at this situation through that perspective.

I don't touch politics on my blog and will not when I commence posting there this evening after a long break. People will disagree and agree and it will always get heated in the comment section.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRhondaCoca

I don't think Palin should be attacked. Let her fall on her own merits, morals, beliefs and life.

As for her daughter, teen pregnancy is difficult no matter who you are- but to have it magnified for the world to know is awful. It appears like Gov. Palin was willing to throw her daughter/family under the bus in pursuit of the VP prize. That seems selfish. No mom should want to risk hurting her child.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercinco

People are spewing such hate-filled venom merely because some were attempting to find the truth in a story that just didn't add up. It wasn't about attacking "their" candidate - especially since some of the information concerning Trig's paternity was posted by Republicans. But I say... the http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com/2008/09/rumor-mill-path-worth-taking.html" rel="nofollow">Rumor mill...a path worth taking. The admission of Bristol's pregnancy is irrelevant. Whether it would have been made public knowledge prior to the election had it not been for bloggers is paramount.

And BTW...our beloved president at present...GWB had a DWI many years ago. As a matter of fact, he is the ONLY president ever elected with a ....CRIMINAL RECORD

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoschelle

Gina, I have to ask that you continue writing political post until the election is over. Your blog is one of the few places where there is a dialogue is taking place.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMonica

Monica said "Gina, I have to ask that you continue writing political post until the election is over. Your blog is one of the few places where there is a dialogue is taking place."

I understand your sentiment Monica. I know why you feel that way, and if I feel a need to chime in again, I will. But the truth is the Bible says "Don't cast your pearls among swine." I honestly can't watch this train wreck happen.

I really don't feel like dealing with the idiots and nut jobs that political posts bring out. Its just the state of American politics. We used to be able to engage in political discussions. Now its just trading insults and "an eye for an eye."

"They smeared his wife so its okay for us to attack their children."

I might go back to doing more political stuff on the podcast. This has all reminded me of just how close we are to being Zimbabwe. What little tolerance for dissent there is out there.

Monica I realize that my blog is one of the few safe havens out there for people who are being hunted down by the Black thought police. I'm proud of that. I work hard for that and I don't mind sticking my neck out for attacks from ACOLYTES in order to do that.

I'm a political junkie so I will likely post on the election again, but right now, this is just a circus.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@Roshcelle I know GWB has a dwi arrest. That is what the post was eluding to. The fact that a DWI won't keep anyone out of the White House. Get a grip. Never mind.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I read the story about Palin not being the mother of her son. It sounded like a hot mess piece from the beginning to the end. I found it puzzling as to why anyone would post such a tale without some serious fact checking first.

The thing that stands out in my mind about this whole issue is who put it out in the public's eye. Once again a "progressive" is to blame. *sigh*

This is nothing new in American politics. It is just as American as apple pie and all that goes with it. If you can't get the politician directly~go after the folks around them.

I see no reason to get caught up in all of this diversionary mess. It is designed to keep us from dealing with issues and it is meant to cause problems.

As it turns out, Palin's daughter is pregnant. She is not the first 16 year old who has been in this situation. Is it an issue that will help in the election~it shouldn't be. It may become one for those folks who believe in abstaining until marriage. IMHO, it is a family related issue that they have to deal with.

Whoever is responsible for circulating the story about Palin not being the mother of her child, knew it was going to be the predictable hit on the fan. We may never know who that individual is.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermsladydeborah

To gem2001: what podcast? I download lots of podcasts from iTunes and listen to them on my commute from the burbs to downtown Dallas. Let me know where I can get or listen to your podcast, please. Thanks.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBlackScorpio

The podcast is available on I-tunes. It is called "The Black Women's Roundtable" the show address is www.blogtalkradio.com/blackwomen, but you can pull it up on I-tunes if you type "Black women's roundtable"

I used to do it every week, but gave that up in May after people acted a fool on the anniversary show and I haven't quite had the heart to do it on a regular basis, but we did about three shows for the convention. Occasionally Attorneymom from Charactercorner.blogspot.com can twist my arm to get me to co-host a show. We will probably have one this Thursday because she and I disagree regarding Sarah Palin, but again, it depends on whether she hosts the show or not.

But you can listen to some of our old shows. We did one on the night of the New Hampshire Primary, South Carolina, and Super Tuesday. The podcast has always been more political than the blog. I think this weekend demonstrates why. For some reason people behave better on the phone than they do online.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

cinco wrote:
It appears like Gov. Palin was willing to throw her daughter/family under the bus in pursuit of the VP prize

So do you think that Obama threw his grandmother, his minister and his entire church under the bus in pursuit of the Prez prize? Or when Obama girls were used in the interview on Access Hollywood, to project this wholesome family image.

The hypocrisy door always swing both ways. People seem to forgot that. None of these people are perfect and as Gina said while folks are mirred in the muck, on all these non issues, the Reps will be walking back into the White House come January.

The problem is that all the candidates use their families (spouses and children) to present an image and to get votes, but then as soon as anyone says anything less than flattering, then suddenly they are off limits.

September 1, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterZora

Hey Gina, once again you hit the nail in the head. Black people keep whining about "hypocrisy" and "racism" when it comes to the issue of illegitimacy. And while this is certainly the case and the right is dogmatic in their criticism of urban youth, none of this will matter on November 4th.

The fact that Obama had to defend his staff - the people he hired and have run his campaign successfully thusfar, should show some of these loony supporters that they are RUINING this man's chances.

Not only do the Dems have to play be different rules, a BLACK dem who is the FIRST to do this doesn't even really know what rules will and won't apply to him. He has been playing duck and cover for 20 months!

Also, as a mother of two small children I have been sick to my stomach reading the sexist comments on so-called "liberal" blogs. White or black, women need to seriously stop defending (and laughing at) this stuff. At the end of the day we all face the burden of being the bearers of life. We black women face it the most which is why I can't believe the way some of Barack's black female supporters are celebrating this "victory".

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKinky Twists

First, I blame Gov. Palin for not saying sooner that her 17 year old was 4 or 5 months pregnant. This would have quelled the rumors that Trig was her grandson, not son.

Second, just for the record, as anyone who has been to family court or child support court knows it is possible to give birth in mid April and be 4 or 5 months pregnant by Labor Day. I am not an OB/GYN but my understanding is that women are susceptible to pregnancy during the recovery period after giving birth. Have sperm, will travel. Let me stop it. Trig ain't Gov. Palin's grandson (for now).

Third, what would a post on WAOD be like without catching Sen. Obama in another double standard. During the campaign, as we all know Sen. Obama smashed the Black community for making bootleg choices. Now that Gov. Palin's daughter is in a bit of a pickle, teenage pregnancy is a private matter. In case you have forgotten Obama's barrage on the Black community here is a refresher: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/07/why_jesses_testy_obamas_tough.html

Oh by the way CBS News has Obama up by 8 points, shhhh!

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBlackAchievement

BUMP THAT!

I want this all over the press, you think this was Obama they would say "oh no lets play fair were better than this"?

What planet yall from?

Obama doesnt have to say a thing because thats what the "Acolytes" are for.

Either way he comes out a Saint.

A Republican pushes family values, opposes sex education, opposes gay marriage, but has a teen unwed mother under her roof, and were supposed to ignore it?!?!

The very same Clinton Fanatics that are dumb enough to vote for McCain because there upset with Obama should have this drilled into there head instead of being "hugged".

I say dig up any dead relatives she has and go after there butts to.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterClnmike

@Gina,

I'm sorry but I remember that podcast and it was the guest you had on that was crazy x 1000. lol. She was also offensive and constantly interrupted your callers. I've listened to all of your podcasts, please give your callers more credit.

I enjoyed your podcasts. I think it add something to the blog.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYeah

From CNN: Evanglicals rally behind the Palins

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/palin.evangelicals/index.html" rel="nofollow">link

As predicted the attacks on the Palins are firing up the conservatives to support them.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMiranda

Some important points.

The issue is that Obama has not presented himself as the type of "family values" candidate that Palin has presented herself to be, supporting abstinence instead of comprehensive sex education. So what is there for him to say? This makes her look incompetent at teaching her own kids the values she professes and questions her ability at protecting them. Too focused on political ambition to take care of her family--Down's Syndrome Child and pregnant teenage daughter. Who knows what is going on with the younger two.

Let others talk about the ironies of the situation; he doesn't have to. He can afford to take the high road. Never forget that the conservative Republicans have their political organs who do the same. The candidate says one thing, while the pundits say what s/he can't say. That is what the pundits are for. (Wink, wink).

What is interesting is that some of the commentators are discussing the fact that Obama's (white) mother got pregnant as a teenager and then married his (African) dad, just as Palin's daughter plans to do.

The conservatives claim that is not what young black girls do when they get pregnant out of wedlock, which gives them, in their mind, a moral high ground--yes, our kids make mistakes, but they do the right thing, they don't have abortions, and they get married.

Obama spent Father's Day talking about the issue of black absentee fathers (who don't marry and abandon mothers and children). He on the other hand, is married to the mother of his children. So anything he says here, can if anything, lend support to the Palins, turning their issues into his, which does nothing for him.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterpioneervalleywoman

Although I disagree about some of the Acolyte comments on this blog. I agree with you on this issue. We should stay away from anything to do with this issue. If we do the Republicans will turn Bristol in to the Virgin Mary, and McCain will win. This line of attack is especially stupid, because there are many real scandals surrounding Palin, troopergate, her bridge to nowhere lie, and her having ties to an Alaskan secessionist group. I really don't think McCain picking Palin for VP is as brilliant, as you mentioned in a previous post.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermalletgirl02

I don't hear any liberals tearing down the Palin's, the reproductive rights group has not even issued a statement. It was an open secret in the town so how are Obama "acolytes" the blame for this story.
The Republicans call the shots in both parties. They told Hillary who had one child to go home and bake cookies, they called Teresa Kerry and Michelle Obama bossy career women, yet a woman with 5 kids young children be next in line w/ access to the red button.
The Republicans slam gays yet the first gay child in the white house Cheney's daughter, now they talk about abstinence and we might have a pregnant teen in the White House. I am not knocking them but pointing out that they call the shots.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNaima

@malletgirl02
I agree with you. There are so many "legitimate" issues that surround Palin, and she's actually getting not only a pass on those, but will eventually be given a boost by the media's obsession with this one.

1) Too many women from too many different types of backgrounds have had to deal with a) a pregnancy outside of marriage; b) a teenager doing EXACTLY what you've asked them not to do. This will resonate with many women.

---Some of you have suggested that voters don't care about the issues, if we follow that logic to its inevitable conclusion, then what would keep women voters with Obama. As someone has already mentioned, she doesn't need to pull all 18 million of Hillary's voters...just a few --- and by the way, which independent or republican would this story pull toward Obama. If it doesn't gain Obama any votes and could cost him votes, I'm missing the point.

If the point is simply to try to highlight hypocrisy and tweak republicans for their stance on family values (if this didn't backfire), wouldn't it still be winning the battle at the expense of potentially losing the war.

It'd feel good at the moment, but long term that would be a disaster. With a Luther Vandross CD and enough low lighting, you can recreate that sensation without blowing the election.

@pioneervalleywoman
I think Obama has definitely taken the high road. I agree, he should be able to do that, and I think he did so admirably.

@Miranda
This has definitely fired up the base and has some in the media back peddling and looking around foolishly. Now, the media is starting defend the 17 years old and the mother. Someone pass the Kleenex. If Palin gets anywhere near this in her speech, she'll get a standing ovation, and the story continues in her favor.

@Clnmike
"A Republican pushes family values, opposes sex education, opposes gay marriage, but has a teen unwed mother under her roof, and were supposed to ignore it?!?!"

It makes this woman look like a mother raising teenagers...And, while it doesn't resonate with many on this blog, it will resonate with many others who aren't nearly as partisan as we are

@Gina
I've loved every show that I've heard. I also heard that particularly "active" show. I was on blogtalk that night. I thought you handled it very well.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYme

Prediction: McCain will withdraw Gov. Palin name from nomination by tomorrow afternoon. Milt Romney will be suited as the replacement.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBlackAchievement

It doesn't make it right that because right-wingers do it (attack below the belt) that we should do it too. It's not OK to go after your enemies' children because they went after yours.
The post is on point: it's a T-R-A-P.

Face it: we have to be smarter than them, we like smart. They like dumb.

(Though I must admit the situation has made me think about how to talk to my daughter about sex)

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdiana

To the extent anyone should be talking about Palin it should be about how her presence in this race reflects on McCain's judgment. That's all. All I had to hear was that they only met once, and that's all I need to know. Picking Palin was about strategy and strategy alone. I don't need to talk about her kids or anything else. Most of the people talking about Palin weren't voting for McCain and don't know anyone who's considering voting for McCain anyway, so who are they trying to sway? If someone wasn't already voting for McCain, his pick of Palin makes no difference. Talking about her makes no difference, unless as Gina says, it drums up the sympathy/they're-picking-on-a-woman vote. I suspect that is exactly why Palin was picked.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterglory

@ Zora,

Obama isn't presenting himself as the poster child for morality;family values, religious standards, or the epitomy of motherhood. I don't agree with some of the decisions he's made in this election process but I would never choose to have my family placed under the microscope of the media; the country or the world. This is not Obama's problem. I do think, unlike Obama's children, Bristol is almost an adult- soon she won't have to hide behind her parents...

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercinco

I think the main strategic effect of Palin is that women who are Democrats will feel so disheartened by attacks on Palin as a woman and as a mother that they'll be stay-at-home voters and won't turn out to vote for Obama. And Obama won't be able to reign in the attacks.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdiana

OMG! Have you "acolytes" learned nothing from the Clinton debacle?

As a former "hard core" Hillary supporter I can tell you I went to Denver pissed off at the "hard core" Obama supporters with all their invectives and gleeful name calling. Thank God in Denver I met scores of really reasonable Obama supporters and I was able to look at the situation reasonably and support the O.

I can only imagine what a lot of the Hillary folk are saying as I read these posts. "Elitists, like they've never had family problems." "At least she's dealing with this like a strong Mother and as a Christian", blah blah etc..Oh, and "well, at least HER daughter is MARRYING THE FATHER."

Lay off this one. No good can come of it. It just gives the PUMAS another chance to say Obama hates women.

By the way, we should probably lay off her lack of "experience". That's not our best subject.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdw314

Yme said:

"If the point is simply to try to highlight hypocrisy and tweak republicans for their stance on family values (if this didn’t backfire), wouldn’t it still be winning the battle at the expense of potentially losing the war. "

Amen and Amen.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterteddy

What pisses me so much is that had one of Obama's daughters gotten pregnant, how many people would tell other people to lay off her? How many????? You think the Rethuglicans would hestitate to call her a another baby mama? Another black unwed mother sucking off the government??? They would not hestitate, not for one second. But then again, black folks are hold to different standard, we have to be more than perfect. This is utter hypocrisy and it makes me sick sometimes.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLa Belle Femme

"Palin’s daughter isn’t proof that abstinence doesn’t work. She’s proof that not being abstinent, doesn’t work. As for sex education in schools, the schools in my area are failing miserably in math, science, and English. Why should I trust they would do any better at sex education?"

Exactly.

I agree that the Democrats should COMPLETELY avoid attacking the Palin family on any moral issues. Forget about taking the high road, this is about letting the dust settle. Sarah Palin will have more important (read: professional and political) questions to answer, and this "family values" stuff is just a small piece of the puzzle. Heck, even some of the substantive issues surrounding Palin that have come to light have come out WAY too early and WAY too easily. I think she may be a red herring, but that's just me. I think the Democrats have a tendency to underestimate their opponents in a way that allows them to be seen as elitist and removed from "common folks" but at the same time, perceived as "weak" and lacking common sense. On top of all that, we/they sit in our little silos and bicker instead of trying to see things from another perspective. If the Obama camp, his acolytes and the Democratic party could take a minute to understand McCain's/Palin's appeal--and where some of the feelings and viewpoints of those who aren't "liberals" come from--they might be able to come up with a strategy that will help them to win. I really hope no one in the Obama camp seriously thinks the Republicans would hand him the election on a silver platter in the form of an inappropriate VP candidate.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNina

"What pisses me so much is that had one of Obama’s daughters gotten pregnant, how many people would tell other people to lay off her? How many?????"

That's not the point. The point is that settling this score with the republicans doesn't help us win! I'm not saying to lay off her because "it's the right thing to do." I'm saying lay off her because pouncing on this issue is a losing strategy.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterteddy

Black Achievement Said "Prediction: McCain will withdraw Gov. Palin name from nomination by tomorrow afternoon. Milt Romney will be suited as the replacement."

Now why on EARTH would McCain do something like that. Can anybody tell me what Barack Obama was doing today? I don't know because everybody was talking about a pregnant 1 year old. I couldn't find much about anything Obama said because I was too busy wading through the MSM hand wringing regarding whether they should or should not report what they are reporting.

If this was Harriet Miers, Blk Achievement, I would agree with you, but so far the far right is embracing Palin and Bristol and holding them up as a symbol of being anti abortion. Bristol isn't being depicted as fast or "hot to trot" as she would if her name was Bristol Obama.

I predict that McCain is going to ride or die with this choice. Regarding Barack being up by 8 points... shhhhh I think Kerry and Gore were up in the polls too, but I don't recall a President Kerry or a President Gore. Plus is that a national poll or state by state because this is not a single election, but a bunch of individual elections in 50 different states.

This is the Democrats election to lose. They have the upperhand on registrations, on the economy, on the Iraq War so the fact that McCain even has y'all talking about this means he's scored a coup.

Keep waging the culture war on Republican turf. You don't have to, you were winning anyway.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I meant "pregnant 17 year old" not 1 year old.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Teddy said "That’s not the point. The point is that settling this score with the republicans doesn’t help us win! I’m not saying to lay off her because “it’s the right thing to do.” I’m saying lay off her because pouncing on this issue is a losing strategy"

@teddy,

Exactly! People keep acting as if a double standard does not exist. Of course it does! You can try to engage in the tactics of the culture warriors if you want to, but the strategy you had was working. Obama was on track to win this thing, now hope and change has been turned into blood and lust. With Democrats looking for payback for all the wrongs they feel the Republicans have perpetrated against them. One small problem, the tool you are using to wage was is a 17 year old "All American Girl" good luck with that strategy.

Do you believe in your candidate's strategy or not? If you believe that he can win, then why on earth would you let the Republican's drag you onto their home turf?

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Having this kid is one thing; getting married, another. I support full involvment by the kids' father but not at the expense of another potentially failed marriage down the road. The stress of parenthood may be all it takes to dissolve a marriage.
Especially one built apparently on pregnancy. Why the rush with tying the knot? Dad can be involved, as he should be without being pressured into marriage. We've all seen the statistics- they're marrying against all odds.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercinco

@cinco

Where did you get that his boy was being pressured into marriage. As it is being told which I don't believe, these two were planning on getting married before she got pregnant. Also, you have to remember that in some parts of the country marriage early isn't a bad thing. I have plenty of High School classmates who didn't go off to college who are on kids #4 or #5. Don't assume what works for you works for everybody else.

My friends and I always note the fact that non-black people tend to be coupled up two by two, just like Noah's arc. There are plenty of White teens that get married and they aren't doomed.

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

CNN sent a reporter up to Alaska to research Palin. After a few days there, her supporters have turned out the reporter. She was all teary-eyed, talking about how she wishes she could hang out with Palin, go hunting with her, and drink a beer with her. She talked about how fired up everyone was about her, and that the reports of her being mired in controversy are overblown. The people there largely dismiss the reports.

Then the reporter said something that sent chills down my spine. She said, "Wolf, Sarah Palin is the Barack Obama of the republican party."

Just let that sink in for a minute...now imagine how these attacks on her daughter are being interpreted by her supporters. Do you get it now? Do you get why they won't work? She is the Barack Obama of her party, people. The stock political tactics used against Obama didn't keep him from winning. What makes us think that they will work against his republican counterpart?

September 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterteddy

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