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Aug292008

McCain Brilliantly Aims Directly At Obama's Weakspot..Pits the Ambitions of Blacks vs Those of White Women

John McCain is poised to select Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin to be his Vice Presidential running mate. This was a game changer. McCain is taking all of the oxygen out of the newsrooms this morning.

McCain is doing what Obama supporters should have done this week in Denver at the Democratic National Convention. The Republicans are doing what Republicans do... whatever it takes to win the White House. Its cynically pitting the hopes and aspirations of Black folks against those of White women who vote... here is an FYI, White women voters outnumber us!

Let me be clear instead of being frosty to the Hillary supporters and trying to truncate their mourning this week at the Democratic National Convention, and that is what it was, mourning for a woman that has been in the public eye for almost 20 years. This week Obama supporters should have been gang tackling Clinton supporters and killing them with kindness. They should have been demanding the Clinton supporter's phone numbers and emails and scheduling dinners and lunches. There were lots of hard elbows thrown this week especially in the California delegation. I have the back story on why California passed during the roll call. Oh yeah and you remember Arkansas saying all of its votes went for Obama... that didn't happen either. I am staying at the hotel with the Arkansas delegation and listened to the conversations on Wednesday night on the ride back to the hotel.

Why do I place the onus on Obama supporters and not Clinton supporters to make the overtures to mend the rift? A) Because as the winner, it didn't cost you anything to be kind to those who lost, even if you thought they were sore losers and B) You need the PUMAS, the PUMAS don't need the Obama acolytes. As far as some of the Clinton supporters are concerned, their election is over.

I interacted with many Hillary supporters this week and most were not the rabid people that CNN handpicked out of the crowd, but normal women and men who were nice enough.

For the past four days, I've been on crowded Airport shuttles, lightrail, air conditioned motor coaches packed with delegates . Tuesday, at the end of my long commute back into the city on the light rail, I couldn't bear the prospect of riding yet another incredibly slow shuttle to the Convention Center, I decided to splurge on a cab ride. I spied a man wearing a convention credential who didn't look like a serial killer so when we reached our stop I asked him if he was going to the Pepsi Center and whether he wanted to share a cab. I wanted to split the $5 cab fare (yes, I am incredibly cheap).


I didn't know that he was a Clinton supporter, but when the light rail got to the Convention Center stop, I asked him if he wanted to share a cab. Not because he was a Clinton supporter, but because I am cheap and wanted to split the $5 fare.



The truth is that Hillary Clinton supporters are not fork tongued cloven-hooved demons that some Obama supporters make them out the be. The Clinton supporter I shared a cab with was an African American man. He told me about his experience in his journey to become a delegate at the Democratic national Convention. He told me about Black Obama delegates calling him an Uncle Tom and a House Negro at the Nevada state Democratic convention. He also stated that Clinton's speech would be his closure and when he returned home he was going to work hard to elect Barack Obama. I wasn't interviewing him for a post, we were just having a conversation. I had a similar exchange with a Clinton supporter on the shuttle ride back to my hotel.



When I arrived in Denver, I ended up on a crowded and perpetually lost airport shuttle to my hotel. It was packed with Obama supporters, including someone who was a member of the media. As we spoke about how exciting it was to be there, the conversation soon gave way to whether Hillary Clinton was going to pull some Machiavellian move at the convention and use the roll call vote to somehow steal the nomination from Obama. For well over an hour in the hot blazing sun, trapped on a van driven wildly by a navigationally challenged driver I listened to these Obama supporters go on and on.


Finally because I was tired of their conspiracy theories, highly ticked at the driver who wasn't quite sure how to get to any of our hotels, and hungry because I didn't calculate a 2 hour ride to my hotel, I finally cracked. I yelled that there was no way on earth that Hillary Clinton was going to steal the nomination at the convention! Why? Because the modern presidential campaign in the country costs at least a quarter of a billion dollars and massive organizing. Even if Hillary Clinton was a political strategic genius, a possibility narrowed significantly by the fact that she lost the Democratic primary, if Hillary were to suddenly hatch a plot to take the nomination away from Obama at the convention, she would be too broke to mount any credible campaign against John McCain. In case you didn't notice, last I heard she was $20 Million dollars in debt and had not paid many vendors. That is not the signs of a a viable presidential campaign two months out from the general election.



I told Black Achievement last night that Republicans will do whatever they have to to gain and retain power. Some may call it politically calculating. I call it winning. By selecting Sarah Palin McCain is doing two things,h e is peeling off some of those 18 million cracks in the ceiling. As the VP Sarah Palin would be in line to be the first woman president should McCain win. Second, he is expanding his base. He can't count on movement conservatives, he decided to stake his claim with White women. In addition, Sarah Palin has a COMPELLING personal story that is going to appeal to women. 80% popularity rating in Alaska.

The Republicans have been on the ground here in Denver. They even threw parties for Clinton supporters. They did what Obama acolytes should have done. Y'all should have thrown something everyday just for Clinton supporters. I have no doubt that McCain made this choice based on the intel he got from Denver.

Listen accolytes. Don't waste time whining and complaining and gnashing of the teeth. Go find your Clinton delegates and have a house party. Bury your Clinton animus. That race is over. This election will not be based on commercials or the airwaves, this will be a fight on the ground. Turnout. Turnout. Turnout. In an electorate that is split 50/50 this might be enough to put McCain over the top no matter how many Black folks register to vote.

I have been saying for months that it is fine to support a candidate, but making th supporters of your candidate's opponent the enemy is stupid. Calling them names is politically stupid. Attacking anyone who disagrees with you is politically stupid. YOU may love your candidate, but don't assume that because someone isn't enraptured with your candidate that they won't vote for them.

You always have to leave open the door of reconciliation because you might need them later. Go find a PUMA and hug them today. Oh yeah and if you think about attacking the qualifications of Sarah Palin, good luck with THAT strategy! She's a governor. The only one in this race. She's the only one on either of the tickets that has ever had to run a branch of government. Oh yeah and good luck helping Biden try to attack a woman that just gave birth a few months ago.

Sorry, I am a political junkie and this is going down as one of the most interesting political chess matches in recent history. Finally the Democrats look like they have a winning strategy and then here comes the McCainiac who is swinging right back. These campaigns are evenly matched. Obama vs Palin and Biden vs. McCain. Oh the next few weeks are going to be fun, fun, fun!

Reader Comments (199)

I hope that in the end the Hillary supporters consider what and who they are ultimately agreeing to and not just the gender of the persons that are running on the ticket. That is all that any supporter of Obama can ask for. If McCain is pres-pres umm, got something caught in my throat there, but you know what position I mean, I will do what I was taught to do long ago - hunker down and make it through. At the END of the day, to me, that is THE choice. Will it be Obama or McCain? If the PUMA'S cannot see beyond their anger to that truth, then hey, whatever will be will be. I urge them to speak up about the real injustices that they feel occured and get them straightened out. I also urge them to look at the bigger picture and ask how do they want the next 4 years to go. That is ALL I or any other Obama supporter can ask.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNikita

hahaha Nikita, you are making my point. Republicans are overtly reaching out to Clinton supporters. BLATANTLY. They have been here all week courting them. For you to say "they need to get past their anger and get straightened out" is exactly the sentiment Obama delegates have had this week and the Republicans see that.

Go hug a PUMA today. Seriously. How far are you willing to go to win? the republicans are willing to go so far as to attend the Democrat's condition and woo Democrats, but Democrats don't feel the need to woo members of their own party.

Like I said. go hug a PUMA today. Don't let pride lose you this election

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Gina,

To borrow a phrase from my grandmother, "you peed" for this post! When I got the announcement on my phone, I was stunned but also had to tip my hat to McCain. I am an Obama supporter, but what Obama thinks McCain didn't get - he got. Women comprise the majority of the electorate.

McCain has also taken control of the media narratives that would have been Obama's for a week or two had he selected some boring person. Sarah Palin does have some chinks in her armor though and if Ted Stevens goes down for ethics violations, it may complicate her candidacy as McCain's VP.

I don't see the Obama Camp attacking her credentials as much as I see them using the inexperience argument against her. This is gonna be FUN!

BTW, I'll hug any PUMA that isn't that lily white queen who started the movement. I just plain don't like him. *LOL*

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

Gina I wanted to go the tribute but I had a community credential and it took me hours to get into Invesco. It was a freakin' nightmare. Be glad you had the preferential entrance. It took me almost 4 hours to get out and I left 15 minutes before the end of Barack's speech. Ugh!

I wasn't pleased with Obama's pick of Vice President but figured it was to shore up older white voters. Your perspective on McCain's choice of VP is spot on. And it's weird because I have been attending the non-DNC events with Cynthia McKinney, Recreate 68 and Progressive Democrats of America. There's more disgruntled people out there than the so-called PUMAs.

Am I an Obama supporter? Yeah...but it's conflicted. I really want Michelle Obama as First Lady! I don't want McCain. I feel like Obama has capitulated to white interests too much. Which would go back to you saying this election became an expression of the political aspirations of Black people. Being First Lady would be a powerful position for a Black woman and that touches on your comment on getting power.

So I don't know. I feel that way about the blogosphere as well. But then I look to you and you've set another example by starting your own conference. You've made it look so easy and natural. Thanks for your posts!!!

By the way, the only celebrity I saw was Walter Moseley who was trying to push past the surge of crowds to get back into Invesco it seemed.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterFaith

I dont know about anyone else but five kids one of which she just gave birth to four months ago (forget) that the child has special needs)
First thing out of my mouth was who is going to see about the four at home while she is VP'g?
I know the Hills supporters are mourning but I hope people can really look at what is going on here.
I'm concerned about the children and how she is going to VP and mother in the white house at the same time.
Don't get me wrong loads of us do it all the time I'm doing it right now but look I ain't trying to run a country either.
THIS is going to be interesting.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWrlddiva

I will not hug or be fake to a puma. Actually stats prove they are a sham and that they have over-exaggerated their numbers. I am with the first poster. All I can do is pray and hope that Americans have learned their lesson from the last 8 years. It's so bad that I am going to let go and let God and I am no longer interested in following this dog and pony show. It almost seems like they are playing with our lives and after all americans have been through, it seems too much. If I followed any further, I'd have a stroke.

If God wills it, Obama will win. if not, then we have severely pissed Him off.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterseattle slim

Seattle Slim, the PUMAS may be a sham, but TRUST less rabid supporters are out there
Seatlle slim he only needs 10,000 votes to shift in one state or the other and that could change the outcome.
UM seattle slim the reason they passed on California was because 160 something delegates from there were voting for Hillary. Believe that they are a fringe element at your own peril.

Wrldiva, if she was a MAN would you be wondering who is staying home taking care of the kids???? THAT is a trap you are walking right into. That kind of question will be viewed as sexist

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Don't forget that McCain had alienated conservative Republicans. Especially a lot of known evangelicals loudly said that they would wait to see who he picked for veep. He was playing with the idea of nominating a pro-choice candidate for veep. What I have heard about her, she is hardcore conservative, especially fiscally and dealing with the abortion issue.

McCain probably made the first decision that I feel was a smart move. I do not have cable but I may subscribe to MobiTV the next couple of months to watch the cable channel. I absolutely agree that the smartest thing the Obama campaign can do is reach out to the Hilary supporters. I have watched videos online where good sincere Hilary supporters felt like Obama and his campaign arrogantly dissed them and that they do not count. The fact that half the states were not allowed to participate in the roll call probably made that feeling worse. This is very smart move for McCain.

I absolutely agree with Gina's analysis.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPamela

The political junkie in me gives a relunctant hat tip to McCain for this really deft move. He's catering to disgruntled PUMAs, white women who "aren't sure" about Obama, and the ever-popular "family values" people. The "everyday" me is sick of the pundits, the politicking, the blogosphere, the radio call-in shows, the campaign commercials, the one-upmanship... This is an important election, but dog n' pony show of it all is what turns people off to politics when they don't see any change in their everyday lives.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNiki

Pamela he got a two-fer. He shore up and fired up his conservative base AND he took aim at Hillary supporters.

Obama supporters just can't think rationally when it comes to Clinton supporters. They keep coming up with reasons why they don't matter. Electoral suicide.

GO. HUG. A. PUMA. TODAY!

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

gina,
Your post is so on time. Very few people are watching and listening everyone wants to talk. Republicans fight to win for the team, Demos fight each other!

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterbugsact

Actually, Gina, I was surprised that Obama chose Biden----an old man who is thouroughly entrenched in Capitol Hill----for his running mate. Although, I was not surprised that he chose a white person. I thought that Obama would choose, if not Hillary, that he would choose some other white woman. Or that he would choose the white Hispanic governer of New Mexico, Bill Richardson.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterredcatbiker

Good Morning: I must humbly disagree on some fronts. The PUMAS are so far-out radical...they want Hillary and only Hillary. Plus, there just aren't that many of them...no matter how much they yell and scream.

It will get out that 1) ready to be Prez on Day One? 2) she does NOT care about most of the issues that most women want...yes there are some very conservative women out there, but they were voting McCain anyway. Middle of the road and liberal women will NOT like her ultra-conservative stands.

3 words: Supreme Court Justices!

And as one of Hillary's staunchest Congressional supporters said this morning: "I know Hillary Clinton, and she is no Hillary Clinton!" It is insulting to think that McCain thinks that women are "interchangeable"...

Just like Obama had to PROVE himself before Black people flocked to him, there are a lot of women who will vote issues over gender...

Plus, people ALWAYS vote for the top of the ticket...it always has been and will continue to be Obama vs McCain...

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterwaterprise2

When I heard a woman was chosen as VP (I'd never heard of her before today), my first thought was, "Ohhhh... clever bastard!" It isn't dumb.

So hell yeah, I'd hug a PUMA. I may personally believe that they need to get over it, but I can sure keep my mouth shut and be friendly to encourage party unity. When your best friend gets dumped, do you tell her "sucks, but you're better off", or do you buy a tub of ice cream and hang out with her all night while she cries?

@Wrlddiva -- she's already running Alaska with 5 kids. Are you also equating any male politicians with absent fathers? Come on. Working mothers should give her props since we understand the hard choices required to balance home and career; we should NOT be muttering that she'll neglect her family. (Besides, VP doesn't "run the country" unless P is disabled or killed.)

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterClueless

Phuque PUMA. The ones that I saw were simply racist whiners.

As for Clinton supporters (not PUMAs). I think they have to make a basic decision on whether they are voting gender or voting policy. Palin is pro-life, big business acolyte who is loved by right-wing conservatives. Do Clinton voters truly want McCain-Palin administration to select the next 3 supreme court justices? Do Clinton voters truly want McCain-Palin to deal with Iran and Iraq and other military matters with the type of temperment displayed by McCain?

Clinton supporters ... all 18 million of them ... are Democrats. What makes us think that they will give up their lifetime of support for Democratic party ideals to vote for a vice presidential candidate that they did not know existed until 5 hours ago?

Palin seems nice enough. However, I think she is a non-starter for national politics.

peace, Villager

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterVillager

Villager are you calling the chief executive of a co-equal sovereign unqualified? BWAHAHA I can't wait for her to pull out the laundry list of things governors typically have to do is twice as long as anything a senator does.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I see the acolytes are coming out to engage in wishful thinking. I am trying to help y'all out and tell you to go hug a PUMA today. I am serious. Its this disdain y'all have for them that are going to cost you. He does not need 18 million. Only 15,000 or so

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Gem and Clueless....you are absolutely right on my take on that and I in no way meant in that way even though it certainly sounds like it. (its the mommy in me that came out right away sorry) Yeah sure I thought about her governing Alaska, and yes I thought you clever old dude when the announcement came out.
I am one for equality across the board with all people don't get me wrong but it WAS the first thing I thought about if she were a man with the same situation yes I would equate that with absent fathers because it does happen and unintentionally it happens to the best of us. I am completely aware of the VP not running the country lol .... in my comedic mind is see (kids in the oval office with toys all over the place)
No matter who any one of us choose I hope that we all and not just us here who visit this blog frequently, choose the group who will best see us through the next four years.
Thanks for calling me out.
Bad Wrld Bad Wrld :)

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWrlddiva

Actually Gina, I'd think you had a point if he'd chosen Kay Bailey Hutchison. That's who I thought he'd go with. But a pro-life candidate? I can't imagine the staunchest HRC fan going for that. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

I think this is a McCain misstep in the worst way. Choosing this woman should even alienate Republican women. He passed over many supremely qualified Republican women to choose this obscure woman from Alaska only because she's pro-life. There are plenty of pro-choice Republican women. I can't imagine that they'll be gratified by this pick.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

And remember, the HRC fans wanted to see a woman at the TOP of the ticket. By choosing a woman as veep, McCain has done something that the Democrats did almost 24 years ago. As a strategy I don't see it being effective.

That's not to say that Obama shouldn't be reaching out to HRCs supporters, but I'll be amazed if this strategy works.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

Personally, I'm so happy about the Palin selection that I don't know what to do. It is a true testiment of McCain's reason and the rationale by which he would govern if given the opportunity to be the POTUS. In other words, this is the most ridiculous VP pick I have ever witness - Oh but, I forgot about Quayle...second most ridiculous pick.

There will be some HRC supporters who will vote for McCain - and there will some who will stay home - and there will be some who will vote for Barack. That sounds pretty much like a wash to me.

I personally think that McCain just guarranteed an Obama win...we'll see...ought to be very interesting!

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSjP

Hey everyone! Those of you who know me already know where I'm coming from.

As a conservative I didn't even see this one coming- my mother called it before I did. I thought McCain would pick Romney or Liberman. But anyway, I must say that this is a brilliant, strategic move on McCain's part. Brilliant! Palin has a story that many American women can relate to: working mom, former beauty pagent winner (beauty and brains), married for 20 years, child with diabilities, son in the miliarty, 80% job approval rating, etc. Let's not forget about ANWR and gas prices at $4 a gallon either. Alaska is not an irrelevent state.

@Wrlddiva, Gina is right. Would you have asked the same question about Romney and his 5 kids? Furthermore as VP she could have one nanny for each child, LOL!

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterZabeth

As a black Republican, I am ashamed and embarrassed by McCain's choice. Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran and Cuba are texting one another "^5".

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKIM

Thanks Zabeth,

Actually I ask that of any parent especially myself. Let me clear guys, it was my first thought, not the only one I had about this.
Now with that said if I thought that then how many others out there did the same thing that I did without really looking at the strategic move McCain believes he made? And if that is the case,....how many people will make their mind up based on what the media announced first about her before they went into her accomplishments in the political arena? I understand how you could look at me and say dumb remark stupid, I know after I posted I said that, but its there and there WILL be some voters who will make their decision based on this sad credo "mothers should be home with babies".

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWrlddiva

My mom and her friends are PUMA's. Life long blue collar democrats and union members. They feel zero love coming from Obama supporters, and a couple have already called me today about the Palin pick and what I have read about her. Go watch her clips on Youtube, she is no Dan Quayle and one clip shows a number of diverse Alaskan's, especially women, giving her high cudos for being a mom and governor.

My first reaction is Obama is now in trouble in battleground states where he previously had the advantage. The dumbest thing an Obama supporter can do right now is critisize Palin. Especially about her being a working mother, unbelievably insulting. You guys just don't get it, and neither will Obama if you keep it up.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterFay

I don't see this as a brilliant move but a defensive one that McCain was forced to make out of desperation. The question is whether America, white women, Hillaryites or others will see pride or prostitution in the pick.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRevvy Rev

@Wrlddiva

That maybe true, but do you think the Republicans won't call people out on that and make them think about that assertion just like you had to think about your's? Especially liberal democrats who are supposed to be in favor of equality among the sexes? If Democrats attack her on that wouldn't that make them look hypocritical and sexist to their very white female party base? Not a good look. They can't use that against her.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterZabeth

I think this is the smartest move McCain could have made. Darn it! Risky, perhaps. But, remember THIS IS AN ELECTION DEMOCRATS ARE SUPPOSED TO WIN. In fact, just being a republican candidate should be risky. We have an unpopular republican president. Our numbers should be off the charts. But, we're neck and neck.

McCain's base is euphoric. They are THRILLED! Be a bad choice or a good choice, you need YOUR BASE + MORE. to be president. Up to this point, McCain has not been able to count on his base. They hadn't been showing up to hear him speak. They hadn't been sending him money. He's been slugging away, basically on his own.

Now, these people are wide awake and actually happy.

And, before you think she won't appeal to Clinton supporters, just because she's pro life, I say think again. Many democrats are pro life, we're democrats for many reasons. Heck, I'm pro life.

This woman is actually a femist.

Gun in one hand, baby on her hip, she actually has some feminist credentials. She's been "very" vocal about women's rights (equal pay, etc) and is a member of a couple of feminist organizations.

She could very well pull some Hillary supporters, legitimately. It depends on "which" of the issues are driving forces for them as individuals. And, Gina's right. It doesn't take millions. It takes a few thousands, in a few choice districts along the way.

If nothing else, the race just got a little more exciting.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYme

Zabeth I one hundred percent agree with you on that point. You're right.
It's sad to say that but it will come up even silently or in the backwoods where I am where people are saying "I'm not voting for Obama cause he's black (white and black voters alike)...or cause I don't want him to be the fall guy or get this one As soon as he get in office they gone kill him, and I don't want to be responsible for puttin' that brotha in harms way"
(see the confused look on my face?) serious I've heard that kind of talk. It is sad that I hear that kind of talk from people around here.
So they (Republicans) can call em out but they are going to make that statement and that judgement for her based on just that and its jacked up but true. Someone is going to vote based on that just like some are going to vote based on them believing they are saving Obama's life. sigh.........
Hopefully people will do what I'm going to do and really look at everything in detail and make my decision based on that and nothing else.
Cheers

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWrlddiva

I actually think McCain's gained very little. The evangelicals were going to hold their nose and vote for him anyway. They were certainly not going for Obama, and they're unlikely to stay home. So, one way or another they were going to vote for McCain.

I doubt very seriously that anyone who was in the HRC camp will go with McCain simply because he chose a woman veep. And let's get real, the people who would do that are not doing it because they were with her on the issues, they'd be doing it because they were against Obama. No matter what Obama did, even choosing a woman veep wouldn't have made a difference.

So, essentially McCain shored up his base and gained the voters he would've eventually have had anyway. Obama loses nothing except perhaps some HRC supporters who would not have voted for him no matter what he did.

I don't see this as particularly frightening or threatening, though certainly this race is by no means a done deal. I think we'll come out of the conventions at a dead heat. We might even end up in the House to decide the outcome. Oh gee, won't that be fun?

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

Gina...the post was on point! O.K. Obama acolyte's please stand and raise your right left and put your right over your heart.

Now repeat after me "In politics there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies’ only permanent interests"

NO got out there and hug a PUMA

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthelildiva4u

Hi Gina~

This move by John McCain is not only brilliant because he has chosen a woman but he has chosen a Christian Conservative Woman. That's Huge!!!! One of my problems with Sen. Obama was the fact that he was so liberal on his position on abortion (particularly late term abortion). It's my understanding that this woman is a right wing Christian Conservative and the Obama Camp shouldn't underestimate the Christian Right. Some of us Black folk actually place our Christianity above our Blackness.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterConservative Black Woman

How does that saying go: "Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line"?

You gotta give it to them Republicans. Shewd. Real shrewd. What foxes!

Things have gotten real interesting in the last 24 hours.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterrjweems

I like that one, lildiva. Rosalyn had some great points. The only one I would disagree with, a bit, would be - would evangelicals sit at home.

They've done it before. They (4 million) sat at home in 2000 (when Bush squeeked by).

Bush Sr. had 81% of this voting block during his first and only successful run for the White House. The 2nd time, he split the vote with Clinton...and lost.

Obama was right...to reach out to this voting group.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterYme

They might have stayed at home, but they sure weren't going to vote for Obama. Either way, this is hardly a slam-dunk for either candidate.

I do agree with Gina, however that the Obama-ites need to get a grip and start acting like this is a political campaign and not the anointing of a new messiah.

Democrats fight, we always have and always will. And this tendency has lost us a few in the past, but as Abraham Lincoln said, "They sound like cats fighting in the night, but the next morning all you have is more Democrats."

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

I totally disagree that evangelicals would automatically vote for McCain. Many would sit at home and have done so in the past. This is why it was important to select a pro-life candidate. The fact that she is a working mom, pro-life and holds other views that conservative Republicans, especially evangelicals, will play well with them I think. It will be interesting to see how those leaders respond in the next few days.

The Obama supporters better be careful in attacking her for lack of experience. They will be causing more problems for themselves. As Gina said their time will be better spent finding the alienated Hilary supporters. I have seen more PUMAs that are sensible, normal people that just feel like they were screwed by the DNC. At least they could have done the entire roll call to give them a voice. That was even taken away from them.

I do not have cable at this time because most of it is garbage. However I do have a pocket PC and may subscribe to MobiTV so I can watch the cable news channels the next couple of months.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPamela

First let me say thank you Gina for all of the wonderful audi and blog coverage, videos, and photos. You gave new meaning to a sistalove on the scene. I think McCain's team was savvy in selecting Palin. It is a chess game. Now the Obama team has to regroup a bit and get their Art of War manual out and chess strategy together. We gotta leave the emotions at home and move from a place of calmness, consistency, and strategy. We can do it provided we plan and act instead of react.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterananda leeke

I'm with Roslyn Holcomb, besides momentarily stealing Obama's post convention thunder, I think this does very little for McCain in the long run. Hugging a PUMA will not help--the Hillary supporters who are still hold outs after Bill and Hill endorsed Obama will not change their minds because Obama supporters are suddenly nice to them.

And I cannot disagree with you more on the experience argument. She has been governor for less than 2 years--has no foreign policy experience and no major city in her state. Prior to being elected governor, she was the mayor of a town of 9k. To me her choosing severly undercuts McCain's attacks against Obama's lack of experience. If Obama ain't ready, then she definitely ain't ready.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterbertie

@bertie it is futile. they won't listen because they can't conceive of the possibility that anyone would not vote for obama. in the way they couldn't wrap their heads around people voting for bush.
You don't have to agree. You don't have to understand it, but you do have to strategize on how to deal with it.

my suggestion is hug a PUMA today!!!

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I just listened to your podcast. I don't think John McCain and his people did anything outstanding. They have pandered to a segment of Clinton's supporters who they think will carry John McCain to the WH.

Obama's camp has not fallen short on trying to attract HRC's supporters. The main argument is that HRC's supporters believe Obama has overstepped by running for POTUS when they believe it is HRC's moment.

McCain didn't do anything outstanding. Palin is McCain's last stand.

Palin is not prepared to become POTUS should, God forbid, something happen to McCain.

McCain is playing checkers while Obama is playing chess. I've played both games, and I know the difference.

Gina, I'm not about to reach out to HRC's supporters. I don't believe there were 13 million cracks in that glass ceiling by the time the primary season ended.

The Pumas weren't about HRC in the end, and they said so, it was about their perception, fueled by HRC's bitterness, that Obama, the DNC, and the MSM stole HRC's nomination. Those people will not, and were not, going to vote for Obama. All rational thought has escaped that group, and nothing Obama or his "accolytes" can say will deter them from their mission.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLady C

The McCain move was shrewd. A nice bit of political jujitsu.

But Gina I'm gonna have to disagree with the premise of your post. PUMA's don't want a hug..they want Hillary. And unless Obama supporters are willing to kiss their ass they don't want to hear anything anyone has to say.

Obama has been trying (desperately) to court Hillary supporters, from asking for help in canceling her debt to agreeing to the roll call vote at the convention.

What more has to be done?

The fact that NONE of that was enough and the only thing that might have got them on board was Clinton as VP, let's me know that they have very little desire to vote Obama.

AND if you're gonna allow someone's supporters to determine who your vote for then you deserve to live under the administration you get.

So if you feel like hugging, kissing, dancing, sexing a PUMA is gonna help...then by all means do so. But if PUMA's can't fall in line (much like Christian Conservatives are doing) then don't bitch and moan when McCain and Palin set our Supreme Court Justices and ultimately our reproductive rights for you.

I feel the same way about PUMA's as I do about the idiots who voted for BUSH: Don't bitch and moan about how your life sucks and you can't find/keep your job and gas prices are so high -- you get the country you voted for.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

What qualifications does Palin have? She has only been in office for 2 years.

Please elaborate.

Gina, you sure you don't have a dog in this race.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLady C

One thing this does is takes away McCain's ability to critique Obama's experience. Sara Palin is two years into her term in a state that has a population the the size of a small city.

Obama will have to be very careful when attacking Palin; he does have some great attack ads in the making though. He can use her fresh-face to turn the celebrity argument against McCain. He can call McCain out for the inexperience attack ads and he can use that 3:00am argument to his advantage because Sarah Palin, when thought of before as a VP nominee stated that "she didn't even know what a VP did" and that it didn't seem very "productive".

Biden will shred her during the debates and I looking forward to all of it! This election year is gonna be hot.

Lemme call up a few PUMAs for drink...

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

As an admitted obamistan, I have to confess that I'm scared as hell. Old man McCain pulled the only rabbit that he had right out of that dingy, stuffy, tired hat called "GOP vice presidential candidates."

Any other pick and his campaign would have been steamrolled by the Obama train that finally caught fire Thursday night.

I wasn't worried about the PUMAs because I thought that their lack of enthusiasm would be made up by the legion of fellow obamistans, especially considering that the true right-wingers who carried W for the last two elections were also staying home.

Well, guess what my fellow obamistans? They're not staying home anymore. McCain has thrown a bone to a pack of rabid, blood-thirsty fighting dogs. The GOP hardliners have solidly pro-life, fiscal conservative, war hawking, oil drilling dream team (now that they've remade McCain into McSame by the force of their will).

Oh, how they will laugh at the Democrats when they become the first party to elect a woman to one of the two highest offices.

We had better wake up!

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterteddy

My wife frowns upon me hugging random angry white ladies...lol. I definitely hear what you're saying--but when the dust settles, I think Palin is more of a liability than a boost. Obama's real weakness isn't angry white women, it is that his lack of experience gives reasonable white folks pause. Palin, in my opinion, makes the lack of experience argument harder to make because McCain implicitly believes that Palin--who is even less experienced than Obama--is ready to lead. She takes away McCain's best line of attack. Plus he is old with a history of health problems--her experience is crucial because she may be 1 weak heartbeat away of the presidency.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterbertie

ladyC I didn't expect Obama supporters to agree with me.

the democrats are NOTORIOUS for blowing presidential elections. They are always off base and they always think their guy is the only logical choice. but for ross perot Bush number 1 would have won in 96.

here is the deal. this was the democrat's year. the republicans were given up for dead. what's worse is the base is downright giddy with less than 2 months left to go.

Nstead of trying to minimize this strategic move you ought to be thinking about how to counter it.

the Obama statement slamming small towns with populations of 9000 was a stupid move.

Obama ites had better start registering new voters by the truckload. this will be an epic battle.

I'm loving it and find it comical that acolytes are refusing to reach out to Hillary supporters. Y'all don't want to win in Nov. I guess

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

Gina you seem to forget that Obama is still Black and that is the biggest liability in this race NOT not reaching out to Hillary supporters.

Who hasn't been reaching out to them?

If you want to use the Ross Perot argument then Nader/Gore works as well and that's assuming you believe the election wasn't stolen.

If jobs, economy, energy and a host of other issues aren't important to you...by all means vote McCain.

PLEASE do so.

PRETTY PLEASE!

Then stfu as the country continues to deteriorate.

And hell, I'm not even an Obama fan. But I'll take him over McCain.

I can't convince angry stupid people to do the right thing. For those of you who have the patience to do so...by all means try but, don't be surprised if your boy still loses and my guess is the taste of ass just isn't that sweet.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

Gina, you sure you don’t have a dog in this race.

@LadyC your Obama acolyte-ism is showing. What have I said that indicates that I would support the McCain ticket? You seriously, along with all your other Obama acolytes, have got to politically mature.

If you have ever played tennis, you know that every once in a while your opponent makes a stunning shot and even though you are the opposition, you have to clap for them because they caught you off guard.

This Palin choice came out of nowhere. Noone was expecting this. In this election, McCain made the riskiest VP choice. Now this could be a disaster OR it could be enough to keep social conservatives in Georgia for voting for Bob Barr.

You forget what I do for a living. I don't have a choice seeing an issue from both sides. Actually, I consider it an asset. I get the Obama acolytes. I understand them. That's why I tease you so much. I also get that some of your tendencies make you politically vulnerable.

@JJ,

Of course people vote against their economic best interest. Republicans have figured that out and play identity politics as well as any Democrat ever could. Just like they placed gay marriage on the ballot.

I didn't say that the McCain/Palin ticket would be good for America. I just think it was a wise strategic move for the purposes of winning the White House.

@JJ, oh honey, you should have been at this convention. The Dems can try to play down tenions as much as they want and for the vast majority of Hillary supporters, it over, but McCain doesn't need 18 million votes. All he may need is for 15,000 to stay home.

McCain has reinjected gender into the race. He's reinvigorated his conservative base, he's robbed Obama of his Invesco Field afterglow, and potentially closed the gender gap. He had nothing to lose by selecting Palin. He could have gone with Romney, but has basically made a choice that throws potential landmines all over the place. OH yeah and did you read Obama's comment about her being the Mayor of a town of 9,000. I forgot the middle american blue collar vote oh yeah and on the energy issue, it does not get more "energy"-oriented than Alaska.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

I believe it was a smart political move on his part as well.

I just don't think all the hugging and kissing of PUMA's is gonna change much...but for those who are willing to try...by all means do so.

Don't have to be at the convention to see the tensions. The blogsphere (and network news) give you all you need to see.

But that's the Dem's fault. They should have never let the primary go on so long. It was over in Febuary and it should have been over in febuary...but NOOOOO that's not what happened.

Anywho...contrary to popular belief ANWAR only has 3 - 6 mos worth of oil...that ain't "energy" oriented, that's lining pockets of billionares oriented.

Like I say...vote stupidly...let the chips fall where they may. Maybe in another 4 years Americans will be really tired of the same ol' BS.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

I think that John McCain's choice was a poor one and will not get him any further than what he has been with Obama. Please everyone, do not get all genious over this. Gena, I have to disagree with you on this one my sistah.

First of all, there are several women he could have chosen to be his running mate who could have gave Hillary and Obama a cause for concern for this election but he played the defense and he chose this lady. You have Maine US Senators Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins and the awesome Kay Bailey Hutchison from Texas. I am not a Republican but I know that Hutchison is a powerhouse and she could give Biden a run for his money in the debates, especially foreign policy. And we can not forget Elizabeth Dole from North Carolina! If he had picked anyone, we would have pause to worry, seriously. But he picks this women. What the F%$K!!!!

When the debates happen between Biden and Palin, he is going to eat her alive and rip a new one on her.

This is a case of McCain taking the women's vote for granted. Women voters are not going to support another women because she is a women. She will be supported if she has our issues and concerns in mind. Palin does not, but the other's do. Look at their voting record. They have align themselves with Hillary on several legislations.

So what does McCain do? He picks someone to be his running mate who is even younger than Barack Obama and has less experience.

And in quoting from CNN's commentator Jack Cafferty, "Sara Palin is 44 – Obama is 47. Sara Palin is in her first term as governor of Alaska, a state that has 13 people and some caribou. Obama is a member of the United States Senate from Illinois." Now who has better experience the McCain keeps egging Obama about? You get the picture.

McCain's pick is a big fat joke. Instead of offense, he takes defense. No sense and dumb.

August 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWomenfolktalk

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