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Obama Chooses Biden as VP: Because Biden's Bright, Shiny and Clean!

Holy Wacky Soundbyte Machine! Obama chooses Joe "Bright Shiny and Clean" Biden as his running mate. For those who aren't familiar with Joe Biden, he has a penchant for saying interesting things.

So much so that blogger, Queen of Spain has penned this open letter to Joe Biden. Hat tip to JJ Politics for the link:
Hi.

I’m Erin. I’m no one really, just another voter with a blog.

Seems you’re going to be our next Vice President.

Good job.

I need you to do something for me though, ok? It’s something I’m pretty terrible at-but I’m guessing with all your experience you’ll be ok.

Don’t say anything stupid.

I know, mistakes happen. And your record and years of service make you more than worthy for this position.

But Dude…between you and I….you say some crazy sh*t every once in a while. Queen of Spain

You have to read the whole letter and the hyperlinks. He does say some pretty idiotic things at times.
There is something poignant about Obama choosing a man who's presidential campaign began and ended with him calling Obama Bright, shiny, clean and ARTICULATE(because it is a miracle every time WE manage to make our subjects and verbs agree and throw in a little diction on the side- Hallelujah its a miracle!).

So this selection was not a "game changer"--- McCain can basically choose whomever he wants for VP- i am gong to go out on a limb and say he'll choose a "movement conservative".

PPS: Acolytes, JoBama is a really bad nickname. Sorry, it just is. O'Biden has a nice ring to it. Y'all keep working at it, y'all will get it right eventually...OR NOT!

UPDATE: I failed to mention a very important point about Joe Biden. He is responsible for the Violence Against Women Act of 2000.

Reader Comments (29)

Biden — the perfect foil for Palin!

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTed

He blew it. He should have picked Eisenhower like we suggested on our blog.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterK T Cat

Damn bad choice.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

As I said before, Biden is an excellent choice. Biden is a hot-head who is prone to go off at the drop of a hat. He also has a way with the pithy put-down like no one else in the Senate. He will make an excellent foil/attack dog for Obama. Obama gets to sick back and look all presidential while he reins in Biden. People will be happy to have Obama because the alternative is Crazy Joe.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

We're posting on this at the CA NOW blog too: http://www.canow.org/canoworg/2008/08/obama-picks-bid.html

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterElena Perez

I totally agree with you Rosalyn. Barack needed the bad cop for his good cop images and Biden fits that role very well. Biden's comments regarding Barack being clean and articulate is a non-issue with the electorate (working class whites) that Barack needs to attract.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTryexcellence

Newsflash:

White working class voters WILL NOT VOTE OBAMA.

Period.

This isn't news.

He should stop spending his time kissing their asses and spend more time shoring u his base and making sure they are excited about his behind enough to come out and vote.

And if you have to choose and asshole who called you "Clean" and "Articulate," then WTH?

All that "Change" and "New Day" BS he was pushing is shown for what it was with this choice. If he'd grow a pair he could handle his business without needing to choose this bonehead for his VP.

Dumb ass move...

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

I don't think Biden will help him with the white working class, he's hardly their boy. So presumably him choosing Biden over Clinton who is actually popular with that demographic is demonstrating that he's NOT kissing their ass.

Joe Biden is an East Coast liberal. The only Democrats that have ever been popular with the white working class have been southerners (like Bill Clinton).

I don't know why anyone would think that a presidential campaign is anything other than what it is; a presidential campaign. Contrary to popular belief the man is not running to lead a movement. If that were the case, he would be working from OUTSIDE the machine. In order to be elected president you have to work from the INSIDE. That is the nature of the beast and I'm frankly surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Obama can't afford to 'grow a pair.' If nothing else, he must, at all costs avoid the stereotype of the 'angry black man.' Yes, it's unfair and annoying, but it is what it is. He can unleash Biden to go on the attack with impunity without getting dirty himself. As I've said before, he needs this in the worst way.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

I agree with Roslyn; the VP is usually the one that punches with the gloves off while the head of the ticket is able to stay on the high road.

In addition, I think this signals that Team Obama is not expecting this to be any cakewalk. Joe Biden's reputation is that of a very tough campaigner, who is more than happy to grab his axehandle and wade into a brawl.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterarthur

Oh, and after the campaign is over, Obama will need Biden to play LBJ to his JFK. He can propose legislation until the cows come home, but he needs a masterful politician. Biden knows where the bodies are buried and who's arm to twist to get the legislation through Congress. That was LBJ's pivotal role for JFK and Biden can do the same. He's been in the Senate a long time and is respected there. He's been on some key committees and has worked on some crucial legislation. I think it's a good choice.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

What is Obama's base? And is his base alone enough to win?

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersymphony

Symphony, both parties can count on about 35% of the vote in every election. The election is decided by the 30% of the electorate in the middle; the independents.
They are voters who will vote for one party or the other based on who they like, and what they are offered.

So,both parties have the same problem to solve every election: Motivate your base and get them to the polls, and figure out how to get a little more than half of the independat vote.

It's interesting how some here are exactly like some on the conservative side; they want the candidate to get up on his hind legs and let 'er rip. In other words, play to the base. But that kind of campaign drives all the independents to the other side, like Goldwater in 64 and McGovern in 72, and you lose 60/40 like they did.

Obama (and McCain too) are both aware that 35% of the electorate can not cast 51% of the votes.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterarthur

It's not a matter of "playing to the base" it <is a matter of of not pissing off your base and ensuring they are excited about voting for you and not just voting b/c you're not the other guy.

If you read around..what you find is folk are saying that Biden was chosen to appeal to the "white working class voters." And Biden is NOT a liberal. Having a D after your name doesn't make you a liberal contrary to popular belief.

The only person who might resemble a liberal is Kucinich. And notice I said might. We have a far right (republican) and center right (democratic) party. That's it. We haven't had any real liberals in a long time.

Let's be real here..there are no independents. At least not in the "there are all these undecided folk running around like they don't know who they are gonna vote for," sense.

Folk know who they are gonna vote for.

What's gonna happen is who get their people out is who gonna win this race...and Obama only wins if he can keep a solid lead over McCain in the polls...if it is within 3-5 or tied...say hi to President McCain.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

You're right JJ. Democrat and liberal aren't the same. And since I'm not the biggest liberal I really couldn't care about those like Kucinich. They serve a purpose and that person is not to be elected president.

The ACLU and NAACP seem quite happy with Biden's voting record.

Yes, that's where I was going Arthur. Its like people who complain about cable news and ESPN. If you sit and watch it all the time they aren't trying to pull you in. They are trying to pull in the guy or gal who drops in from time to time.

And if the base loses interests over cherry-picked issues it says more about them. You will not agree with 100% of your candidate of your choice. If you do, you're beyond hopeless. You do, I acknowledge, have your issues that are deal breakers. If the candidate's position doesn't match with yours then I guess you should leave him or her. I understand that.

5% poll lead (for whoever has it) has more times than not, I believe, been a win. So if thats what Obama has then he'll be president. Landslides aren't important, winning is.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersymphony

Oh and I'm well aware of how politics are played. I don't believe (and have never believed) that he is head of some kind of movement.

But don't sell the "change" mantra and that somehow you're different then the rest then go and choose a bonehead like Biden and don't expect folk to say something about it.

Biden is a pissy choice. It does nothing to help his canidacy and probably hurts much more than helps.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

@symphony

more times than not is the operative phrase.

if it's 5 then maybe he wins but if it's 3 or less (which is what it is now...you know with all those undecideds running about) then he doesn't win.

And if the base loses interests over cherry-picked issues it says more about them.

Who determines what's a chery-picked issue?

If you're running for president you better give a good got-damn what "issues" your base cares about or your ass doesn't get elected.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

The ACLU and NAACP seem quite happy with Biden’s voting record.

I don't know about you but I don't measure whether I think a politician is any good or not b/c the ACLU and the NAACP likes their voting record.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

This is why I hate blogging, you have to write a dissertation. I don't care about the ACLU or NAACP. My statement was that no one would consider either of them conservative groups not that I like Biden because of their opinions.

Its not about who decides what is a cherry-picked issue. My point is you'll always find something to disagree with someone over, whether or not they are deal breakers in the individual voter's mind is whats most important.

I don't agree 100% with Obama or McCain. And I don't disagree with either of them 100%. Its about the issues I feel are most important to me that is the deciding factor, not that they happened to do something I didn't like. Because every politician makes a decision I don't like.

Have a nice day folks!

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersymphony

LOL hilarious headline.

Slow Joe Plugs Biden - arrogant, boorish, bright, clean and articulate, serial-plagiarizing, Dunkin-Donut-frequenting, elitist, grandstanding, narcissistic, mean-spirited, cerebral welterweight and consummate DC insider. What was BO thinking?

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn, Fitness Austin

I never thought Biden was a liberal because he's a Democrat. IMO, Biden is a liberal because of his voting record. Is he as liberal as Kucinich? Nope, but there are different degrees of liberal, and Biden certainly leans to the left. No true liberal has a shot in hell at being elected in this country anytime soon, but by choosing someone who is to the left Obama seems to be shoring up his base.

Regardless of what the folk at CNN might or might not be saying, I can't imagine his choice being an appeal to blue collar white voters. Especially considering that as his opponent HRC had that bloc sewed up. Presumably if he really wanted to signal to them he would've chosen her. As I understand it, she was never a viable candidate.

I don't think Obama's base will be upset about Biden. From what I've seen they seem quite happy with the choice.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRoslyn Holcomb

I'm not pleased but then this choice wasn't made to appease me. It's all about winning. I get that Obama is covering his bases. But with him being #1 and Pelosi #3 he had to pick a white guy for #2. And he said Biden is ready to be President. I'm in a safe state so I am considering voting Green. We've got a little over 10 weeks before the election and I will be evaluating Biden during this time. I'll continue to do my part but I certainly don't want to feel like I have to compromise. Either way McCain needs to be gone! I was just hoping for a little excitement and anticipation now I feel like I've been kicked in the gut. I'll see how I feel after the Convention activities next week.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterFaith

I always find it fascinating when the peanut gallery starts whinning about what Obama isn't doing or shouldn't do or won't do or just overall bitching because he's not liberal enough or progressive enough or he's gonna "lose the race", he's appeasing whites, blacks, southerners, working class, lower class, red, blue........ WHATEVER.

Conventional wisdom says Barack Hussein Obama should have been out of the Democratic primary race in Feb....but yet here he is with more money raised than McCain and his old nemesis Hillary combined, the DNC headquarters moved to Chi-town, and people griping that he is not leading ENOUGH. Wow. Sorry, but I think all the naysayers are just...well....just dont know what the hell they're talking about.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterFamuan

People, what other choices would you have liked. If Obama picked Hiliary he would have had a lot of backlash. Picking Hilary would have sewn up the conservative base for McLame. All that negative campaigning she did against him would give the Republicans attack ads for years. They'd play Hilary's attacks from the primaries constantly.

Tim Kaine would have been a bad choice because he doesn't have a lot of experience. The Republicans were already calling the Kaine and Obama ticket 'two empty suits'. Bayh is boring as hell and can't fight. Kathleen S. would have been great but it would have pissed off the Hilary supporters. Bill Richardson would have been nice but everybody knows that's too much change for one election. Edwards - don't even go there. Gore wasn't interested in the job. Web and Randall said hellllllll nooooo. They were completely not interested.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMiss Thang

Say what you will about Joe Biden's lame comments (bright, articulate, etc.)

His work speaks for him. TWO things, among many, stand out.

1. Biden was a main player in keeping Robert Bork off of the Supreme Court of the US.

2. Biden-Hatch Violence Against Women Act of 2000

I think he's a great choice!

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterisonprize

Unless the vice president is going to have undue influence on the president, it really does not matter who they pick. Biden will be too old to run on his own in four or eight years.

I doubt anybody would have been happy with any of Obama's choices. I am almost giddy to see how McCain responds. Will he go Romney or go for a game changer?

What if he goes after women by selecting Alaska's govenor? Now THAT woul be an interesting nine weeks.

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

@famuan.. spoken like a true Obama Acolyte. When will you realize that people who wish to offer up a different opinion are not stupid, are not evil, are not naysayers. They are American citizens with a right to express their opinion.

Those who don't agree with the Biden DO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT... because they are talking about THEIR opinion. To which they are entitled. YOU on the other hand are annoying because you came to a place, A BLOG, inorder to chastise people for sharing their opinions. So if anyone doesn't know what they are talking about, it is YOU.

Notice how a long list of people have disagree with each other on the choice and have offered reasons WHY. YOU on the otherhand chose to attack complete strangers, who are probably Obama supporters, because they merely said they didn't agree with the choice.

In other words...stay out of my comments section if you don't have anything substantive to offer to the discussion. ... OR ELSE!

August 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergem2001

If McCain chooses Romney, he loses most, if not all, of the Evangelical vote. That's what stopped Romney's campaign in the Primaries; the Evangelicals absolutely do not regard the LDS church as 'real' Christians and they wouldn't vote for him at all.

I can't see Team McCain writing off 9 million votes.

August 24, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterarthur

Did you know that Joe Biden delivered the eulogy for Strom Thurmond? Here is a link to it:

http://biden.senate.gov/press/speeches/speech/?id=1ae7d68a-ad35-446d-9823-4dce283169d7

August 24, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterredcatbiker

Biden is not perfect, nobody is, but he is more experienced than any body else at this point.

McCain doesn't know what's going on in this country, or in his own life.

Obama and Biden had to work for everything they have got-

McCain married a rich woman and ultimately picked a pretty gal to run along side him.

Puke.

Obama 08'

http://www.collegefastbreak.com/msu-spartans-3/

August 30, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterryan

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