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More on the Gun Control Debate and Black Women
Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 10:38AM The Blogmother
We're having a very interesting debate about a post I wrote Friday about a woman being gang raped while her neighbors listened to her scream and do nothing. In that post, I mentioned a comment from Black Women Vote that pointed out the recent Supreme Court Decision finding that the District of Columbia's absolute ban on guns in private homes was unconstitutional. She mentioned the option of Black women arming themselves.
Now in the original post, I mentioned two alternative options including self defense classes and meeting your neighbors, but apparently including the option to arm yourself was controversial to some people. It wasn't an endorsement one way or the other. Well Angry Independent offered this very disturbing video of a home invasion of a single Black women and her son. Hmm where have we heard that before?
4 teens or young men were caught on tape trying to get in her house through windows, the garage door, and kicking in the front door as well. They went so far as to cut her phone line.
Now in the original post, I mentioned two alternative options including self defense classes and meeting your neighbors, but apparently including the option to arm yourself was controversial to some people. It wasn't an endorsement one way or the other. Well Angry Independent offered this very disturbing video of a home invasion of a single Black women and her son. Hmm where have we heard that before?
4 teens or young men were caught on tape trying to get in her house through windows, the garage door, and kicking in the front door as well. They went so far as to cut her phone line.
Just thought I would add this clip to the discussion.
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My sistuhs! Buy a firearm and take a class from a certified NRA instructor. Shotguns seem to be the preferred weapon of choice for home defense. Use buckshot, point, and shoot. Get a concealed weapons permit. There are handbags and other garments designed to conceal hanguns.
However, remember this: Home Defense begins at Home Depot. The last thing you want to do is play Rambo in your own home. Spend the money and get a security door. Make sure the area around your home is well lit. Establish a protocol for answering the door and stick to it.
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Sorry that this sistah almost had a home invasion but a gun is not what saved her life. The security measures she used on her house is what saved her life. There is also no mention of her receiving any gun education. Using a gun in a panic situation is very different from carrying a gun when everything is okay. You might harm yourself and have that same gun used against you by those criminals. I don't like guns at all and I'm not against someone else owning a gun but for some gun advocates to say owning a gun is the end all, be all is IMHO, wrong. This sistah in the clip had other defenses before resorting to a gun and the criminals finally gave up. And another thing, that gun shown at the end of the clip, holy cow, that's big!
La belle,
There is no evidence that she didn't. In fact any situation where you are using a gun to defend your home is going to be a panic situation. Which is why you aren't supposed to just buy a gun, but follow up by routinely going to the range.
I don't think anybody has said owning a gun is the be all end all. In fact most people hope they are never in a situation to have to use a gun. Its not like people are strapping up and running around shooting at anything that moves, that would be the criminals.
My question is why is this woman living in a fortress, that was a nice house in a seemingly nice neighborhood and its like fort knox.
Yes the last gun was a bit much for me, but again, she almost had God knows what happen to her.
Home security-check; Self defense classes-check; A firearm you're licensed to own and trained to use-priceless
A gun can be a great deterrent - nothing more powerfully defensive than the mere sight and sound of a gun being cocked or a round being chambered.
And when it's four v. me, I don't want to have to use the grappling moves I learned in class. I'm more scared of the predator than the gun! Protect yo self!
OH great Al from Bay Shore. You said N.R.A. Now all heck is going to break out up in here.
"OH great Al from Bay Shore. You said N.R.A. Now all heck is going to break out up in here."
If you want to learn how to cook, you are not going to seek instruction from radar technician. For people who may not know anything about firearms the NRA is the most visible and credible source of instruction.
DISCLAIMER SLOGAN: "HOME DEFENSE BEGINS AT HOME DEPOT - OR LOWE'S"
Men stalk women. It is a common occurrence. We all need to keep our eyes open. Ladies, it doesn't hurt to be a little paranoid. Keep your guard up. Be aware and alert, because someone is watching you.
Unfortunately, in these situations the people who come after us are people we know tangentially. I've learned that the "friends" of the victim's teenage son / daughter, or even extended family members, will scope a house, and return for robbery and other mayhem.
Viewing this video, I am thinking about my mother (1929-2003) who grew up in the South and was a huge advocate of guns in the home. Her father owned guns (legal or not, I don't know) and because he was known to be armed and willing to protect himself and his family, he avoided much of the the racial harassment so common back then.
As someone has said, a gun does not guarantee your safety in every situation. But if someone makes it through your door, you had better have something on site to protect yourself with because by the time police arrive, you are in all likelihood a victim of something worse than a break-in.
We have really been conditioned not to value ourselves highly. We expect others to do more for us than we will do for ourselves when it comes to personal protection.
I am very grateful the young lady in the video wasn't harmed. The NRA does have some excellent, highly regarded (by law enforcement) training programs open to anyone. You don't have to be a member to participate.
Hi there Gina! {waves}
Thank you SO MUCHfor showing this clip!
This really makes the sense of urgency even clearer!!
[thumbs up}
Lisa
I never thought of owning a gun because I was so afraid I'd use it on one of my hard headed boys! Now that I'm nearing an empty nest, I'm seriously considering buying one. I like the security cameras and etc. that could be used as well.
In this day and time when people could care less about someone's life, we need all the protection (and prayers) we can use!
I just saw the clip. This just reaffirms my belief that break-ins and home invasions cannot be deterred. Security measures only make break-ins difficult by imposing serious inconvenience upon the bad guys. Owning a firearm serves as a final line of defense just in case a home invasion or break-in happens.
Everytime you hear of a home invasion read about it so that you can gain information as to how it may have occurred. This information can help you to identify strategies and tactics that can assist in deterring a home invasion and/or burglary. It can also help you to identify weaknesses in your home so that you may find ways to address them. Never become complacent. Gain as much intelligence on the bad guys and their methods whenever you have the opportunity. The key is to educate yourself.
When I was single I had a sawed-off shotgun. Illegal as hell, but most effective. There's something about that distinctive 'ka-chunk' sound that's been known to bring the craziest mofo to his senses.
Now that I have a child I don't keep a gun in the house. Would I if I were single? Probably. Fortunately, my dh has a big-azz knife that's he's very good with, and I have my trusty Louisville slugger.
I recommend shotguns for women because of ease of use. If you buy a handgun you must commit to going to the firing range at a minimum of once a month. You must also maintain your weapon--keeping it cleaned and oiled is crucial. Unfortunately, going to the range isn't cheap, so might be a deterrent from gun ownership.
"There's something about that distinctive 'ka-chunk' sound that's been known to bring the craziest mofo to his senses. "
ROFL!
I don't belong to the NRA but I will see if I can find a female gun instructor to come to my podcast to answer questions.
I, too, wondered why this woman had to take such extensive security measures in what looked like a really nice neighborhood. Man, you just can't tell which neighborhoods are safer anymore...
I grew up in the DC area. I have lived in OK since 1977. They carried guns illegally for many years before they passed the concealed weapons law years ago. We had a bit of an increase in crime, mainly when the number of police dramatically decreased a few years back. For the small population of the state the crime rate is still nothing compared to the crime rate in DC.
I will never forget when the tourists is FL were being knocked off. At the time you did not hear about crime against the local in the same fashion. I sincerely wonder if their concealed weapons law had anything to do with that.
People should have the right to protect themselves in a time of danger. However from what I remember (and the constitutional attorneys that may read this correct me if I'm wrong) but the 2nd amendment was to allow the people to protect themselves from an abusive government.
I don't know if I could use a gun against someone. HOWEVER I would not blink twice if someone used a gun to protect themselves or other people from bodily harm. NOT IN A SECOND.
I am an advocate of gun ownership.
My family on both sides are gun folks. The males and females all have been taught how to handle a weapon.
We primarily use weapons to hunt. But there have been times when it was necessary to draw them in self defense. I have never heard of any of my peeps drawing on each other.
Both of my parents grew up in households that had guns. They passed on their knowledge and a healthy respect for owning and using a weapon.
In Ohio, we can carry and conceal registered weapons. This law has been on the books for a couple of years.
I am also a believer in getting trained to own and use a gun properly. I learned from the experts in my family. And they spent more time working on when you should or should not go for your gat~than actually firing the piece.
If I decide to own a gun again, I would certainly go to some sort of professional course. I live alone now. I would certainly rather be invaded with one than without.
In OK the license fee includes mandatory firearms training. It has been around I think for at least a decade. Again the law was just a formality:)
I saw this clip a few months ago making the rounds on the Libertarian blogs, the woman became something of a hero among the 2nd Amendment set, myself included.
I grew up in East Ornage NJ bordering Newark. I've been jumped, mugged and had guns pulled on me three times and was shot at once. I moved to SC and I keep two shotguns in the house. A 20ga Mossberg and a .410 NEF survivor. I learned the hard way that cops aren't your body guards and locks don't always keep people out. I don't want my wife to learn the same way i did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-lob8laFpk
This is a video of a lady I work with. She had never fired a gun until she met me. She is nowhere near being an expert; however, she is competent and with more range time to develop muscle memory and mindset she will be quite formidable. Having a gun is just the start. Practice practice practice is the key to winning.