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Apr032008

Did You Listen to the NAACP/Dunbar Village Podcast??? Open Thread

We heard the "explanations" from the NAACP last night. What do you think? Look at the fliers that were handed out at the press conference. Read our archived Dunbar Village posts.
This is an open thread for those of you who listened and participated int he podcast. Leave your comments!

On the podcast, I misspoke about the organization, it is Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) and the name of the organizer was Saul Alinsky.

Reader Comments (15)

Hey! I'm 814 when I call into the podcast, and I just wanted to let people who are in the Atlanta area and are interested in creating an political lobbyist organization, the students of Spelman College is doing just that! We are meeting for the first time tomorrow at 7 at the Women's Center in Cosby Hall!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11193317335

(that's is our blossoming facebook page)

April 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMari-Djata

Girl thanks for being a loyal listener and holding it down!

April 3, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

I don't know all that much about the ins and outs of these organizations, but I know bs when I hear it, and that's what the NAACP was dealing out tonight. I also got the sense that they don't quite know what to make of you .. that they were coming on the show to put out their spin, but also to kind of feel the situation out: Who are these people? Are they a threat? Could they be co-opted?

I believe you're right in thinking about setting up 'your own house'. Trying to work from within an established group and get it to change would have you spending more energy on that than on the issues. A new group could be a completely free agent.

April 3, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterarthur

The NAACP isn't (what we have been told all of these years)the organization I thought is, and many people still have this misconception about it. It really is time for a new generation organization.

I think last night was one of the best podcasts conducted by this blog. Black people, as a whole, really need to be exposed to this "other" side of that organization, and see if for what it really has evolved into.

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commenter2Unruly

I have listened to the remarks made by the NAACP representatives.

It was often difficult to understand Richard McIntire's responses. Which only makes me feel that he isn't as strong in the stance that he was/is forwarding.

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermsladydeborah

I take it that the NAACP didn't take the opportunity to admit that Maude Ford Lee was wrong for standing on the courthouse steps to request bail for the three Dunbar Village rapists?

peace, Villager

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterVillager

I missed the beginning of the show, I will have to download from Itunes. But when you were calling out NAACP and their sexism and how the black media is also embedded w/ them I was like thank you. So many black people don't realize this. The so called black media is sorry. All they do is get their news from the AP wire and CNN and give their "black" opinion. That is not journalism. I can't believe some of these people went to Ivy League schools. They didn't even learn to think critically.
Black talk radio is the worst, they will have one show where Al Sharpton is a guest and then you will hear Al Sharpton later on with his own show, on the same station! He has got 2 shows in the NYC area on two different networks!

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNaima

Could Mr. McIntire appear any more indifferent or unaffected?

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKekanu

I listened to the podcast and participated in the chatroom last night. Let me start off by saying that the NAACP is full of crap. McIntyre is a pompous, misogynist jerk. He kept trying to divert the point away from dunbar village by talking about everything else. I got the feeling that he has issues with strong, opinionated women. The lady is basically a token woman in a useless position of power. How are you the head of the entire state of Florida branch of the NAACP and you don't feel powerful enough to appear on the podcast for the whole hour that you originally commited to? How do you not feel powerful enough to do what you know is right? She also claimed that the NAACP does alot of work on behalf of black women and children that the media doesn't tell the public about. Well, evidently they have the power to organize press conferences on behalf of black criminals. Why can't they use these same resources to call attention to the rape, murder, torture and kidnapping of black women and children- WHEN THE PERPETRATERS ARE BLACK?

As for the failure of black journalists and reporters to spread the word about this campaign, I feel that they may not feel powerful enough to follow the story. There is no such thing as independent black media anymore. Every outlet is owned by the same people. And then you have to deal with this mentality of false unity that we feel in our community. Now I do question the eagerness of white reporters to cover this story. I am not foolish enough to believe that it is solely because they care about this sister and her son. But that's for another discussion. These are just my thoughts about last night's podcast.

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commentertasha212

It is a conversation in and of itself but I just have to say, its not what it says about the White reporters, its what it says about the Black reporters.

Some White people, as hard as it may be for some of us to understand or accept, care more than some Blacks.

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSymphony

Finally!!! Someone who actually uses the word "misspoke" correctly!

Richard McIntyre goes on my Chitlin' Eatin' Negro List. It's no wonder the NAACP can't keep members!

People are starting to wake up and smell the bull$#!%. At least the Florida president had the decency to acknowledge that Maude acted a fool and she at least conveyed some semblance of contrition for the WPB bRANCH'S ACTIONS.

However, I think that by virtue of her age and given her commitment to the NAACP, she's probably just a loyalist who doesn't want to face the fact that she's part of a WRETCHED organization.

Richard McIntyre needs a lobotomy.

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBLKSeaGoat

I listened to the archive of the show and it simply confirms for me a sad fact which is that the majority of black led organizations are incapable of effective, principled, strategic leadership on the important issues facing our community. The local branch clearly was rogue on this, but neither the state nor national people were willing to rebuke them and reverse course. They also seemed to simply not get the enormity of the issue or the complete wrongheadedness of what the local branch was doing or the moral, political and strategic poverty of their response.

That black organizations are so inept is no surprise to me, but the degree of intellectual apathy, disingenuous and lack of empathy demonstrated by their comments was really pretty shocking.

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAaron & Alaine

..However, I think that by virtue of her age and given her commitment to the NAACP, she's probably just a loyalist who doesn't want to face the fact that she's part of a WRETCHED organization..

Now that makes me wonder ... are there maybe a lot of bw now working for the NAACP that don't much like it, but see no other organization to support? What if another group, of the kind Gina and Shecodes have talked about, were to appear? I'll bet there'd be a fair number that would desert the NAACP in a NY minute to join a group they thought could do some real good for bw and children.

..Richard McIntyre needs a lobotomy..

People could tell the difference?

April 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterarthur

Well if they don't like the NAACP they should leave. They are complicit, no excuses.

Start your own ways to help and make it local, you'll see a difference immediately. Everyone wants to be some big national organization.

Don't wait around, its an excuse. And if someone creates some umbrella, or larger coalition you agree with, then join it and work with them--give and take.

I'm a little frustrated with all of us acting like we don't know what needs to be done and when someone mentions something we act like we've never heard of the idea or thought about it. Its bull and we need to stop.

We know it would be good for us to do something. We know we're smart, and we get "it". We know we can help people. We have made the decision to not do so.

I haven't just figured out that I can make a difference, I've just recently decided to get off my butt and do it. So lets stop playing. Really.

April 5, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSymphony

I think the problem is that people want something to replace them and if you look at it that way then change seems overwhelming. I personally find the idea of recreating the bureaucracy that our parent's generation had uninspiring. We don't need it.

If you go back to the original post on this blog I said we don't need another committee or organization.

People still want there to be ONE. One individual or ONE group that everyone else can stand behind.

You don't have to try to dismantle the NAACP, but build, join, support an organization that is doing the things they won't. That organization is probably in your community. They don't get press the don't get the big money/or in some cases they do. Heck the very simple act of sending somebody a card and saying we didn't forget you anonymously is enough.

I am content to ignore them except in cases where they do something stupid like that press conference and need to be publicly rebuked.

I think the email campaign demonstrated that there is already a national "organization" what else do you call a group of strangers coming together to accomplish something they probably could not have done on their own. We didn't need infrastructure, or overhead. We didn't need to meet int he same room.

The truth is that our parents generations did/ did not do/ their part. They are retirement age now about to collect social security. MLK didn't even see his 40th birthday. I want to say he was in Montgomery at 29. So we really are kind of old to be looking to someone else for leadership.

ANd the leadership does not have to look the same. We all have different gifts.

Another reason to get involved locally is that this whole online thing is very distorting. You need to get out and meet your neighbors and interact with real live human beings in the real world. I've recently done that and am having a blast. IT very much reminds me of my undergrad days. Everybody on here can do something in their own community this week.

Maybe you don't have the heart of a social worker. Maybe you can give them enough money to get a new fax toner cartridge or contact a local victim's assistance organization and hand out gift cards or got through the process of being a volunteer. I remember one Christmas a woman got on a city bus at Christmas time and handed out envelopes with Christmas cards and got off. Some people rejected her cards, but most people accepted them and inside was $50- some people were able to pay their light bills or get a toy for the kids.

That being said, about the only thing I can think of that we need are people willing to speak on camera to counteract whatever it is that some of these organizations have press conferences to pop off about. Even with that we could use technology because you could easily prepare high quality video recorded statements and send those to the press.

I think people are just annoyed with the media's obsession with going back to the same well over and over again and my answer is that you have to give the media an alternative sound byte or visual.

There is lots of work to be done. Everybody can do something. It does not have to be the same thing and we have the means to organize and come together when we have to.

I will also try to get back to featuring grassroots organizations who are working in their own communities to make change and I am doing some other things behind the scenes that you will become aware of probably this Fall.

April 5, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

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