Saturday
Sep152007
The Black Blogosphere's Open Secret, "Violence" Against Female Bloggers - My name is Gina not "Anna Mae" - The Internet's Ike Turners
Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 8:09AM The Blogmother
Many of you have commented or e-mailed me to let me know that as a result of reading this blog, you have decided to either A) start you own blogs or B) start some other form of activism in your own community. I'm honored that you give this blog any credit for that. So in a way, I guess I am like a Blogging Godmother (BG). I try to link to other blogs whenever we have high traffic days or on my What Black Bloggers are Saying posts. That is why I don't mind if people put the addresses of their blogs in the comments section of this blog. I used to do the same thing on my Blogging Godmother's site back when she allowed comments. You see if it wasn't for my Blogging Godmother's blog, What About Our Daughters? would not exist.
How many of you enjoy the Black Womens' Roundtable, the WAOD podcast? Well, the podcasts would not exist if it wasn't for my Blogging Godmother because I learned about Blog Talk Radio on her blog. Quite frankly, from a technical and organizational sense, she showed me what was possible. She had a cause she believed in and she was able to build a community of women who had similar interests. I think it is a shining example of how the internet can be used to connect folks who may have otherwise have felt isolated. I thank them for welcoming me in to their community even though I admitted that I wasn't particularly interested one way or another with interracial marriage. I identified, for whatever reason, with the idea of living an amazing life regardless of what other people thought about it. At the time I was personally and professionally miserable and I was stuck and was content to stay stuck because getting unstuck would mean I would have to break all kinds of rules and expectations I placed on myself. Providence ordained that I would stumble unto a blog with a community of women who were unapologetic about saying "to hell with what other folks think!"
For those who are curious about how in the heck I ended up on my BG's blog, you can read New Loyalty Oath for the Black Blogosphere, but in short, I was being nosy after watching Melody Hobson sitting next to George Lucas in a ton of camera shots this year at the Academy Awards. After like two hours of seeing them side by side, I said " Are they dating?" So being the Googgle Goddess that I am, I typed in "Melody Hobson" and "George Lucas" and my BG's blog popped up. It was destiny because this happened not too long before Don Imus. If I hadn't been bored and nosy that night. What About Our Daughters? would not exist because I would have continued on in my seven year carbohydrate coma ( mmm I haven't had some Blue Bell ice cream in a minute). But I couldn't turn away. It was like my BG was speaking directly to me. Not about marriage or dating, but about dying old and miserable, not living an amazing life because I was too scared to live outside of the comfortable pastry-strewn box ( mmm Krispy Kreme) I had crafted for myself. Quite frankly, she convicted me. Here I was with a designer label law degree and two law licenses and my life consisted of going to work, going home, stuffing my face, going to sleep, repeat. Years of my life lost doing absolutely nothing with my life. So I started chiming in because they were talking about stuff anyone can relate to, not just marriage or dating. I know I wasn't necessarily her target audience, but she was talking to ME!
A few weeks after reading her blog, she hurt my feelings when I read some of her statements about over weight Black women, I'm a member of the CGU. I was like "Hold UP! Wait a minute!," but she was right, how the heck are you going to live an amazing life letting your body go straight to hell, not from a vanity stand point, but from a physical fitness standpoint. I wasn't just inactive, I was outright lazy. I would drive around for five minutes trying to get the closest parking spot, take the elevator to go up or down a single flight of steps and generally avoided breaking a sweat at all costs and was eating whatever the heck I wanted to. I've been on diets since I was 6, but for whatever reason something she said, again, convicted me, I think it was her "well of course you engage in regular physical activity, that is what folks pursuing excellence do and if you aren't doing it, you don't want to be excellent" There was no hand holding, empathy, or scare tactics, just... yall are fully grown women, physical activity is the responsible thing to do. About a month or so later I did something I have never done, joined a gym. Those of you who think I am a witch will be happy to know I'M MELTING! I'M MELTING! and I have guns too! You can't tell me NUTHIN! So I don't know why, but this woman was able to do what 25 years of dieting couldn't. If she wrote a weight loss book, she would make a killing on that alone. Suffice it to say, reading my BG's blog changed my life. And it changed yours too because if I hadn't read her blog, you wouldn't be reading this one.
Gina who is your BG? Well the folks who were with us from the beginning already know who she is because I openly gave her credit for beginning this blog back in the day when only 62 people would visit the blog and 80% of them would stumble in from bloggger.com and the other 20% came from a link on my Blogging Godmother's site. You see my BG does not crave attention, she doesn't need any, her blog is one of the most notorious in the Black Blogosphere. She also doesn't like drama, and hates when her name comes up in other people's drama. So I respect her wishes to keep her name out of it and I won't put up a link to her blog, but if you want to find her it is really easy.
I can understand that because a portion of the subject matter for her blog is controversial to many members in the African American community in fact many people hate her because of what she thinks. Because. Of. What. She. Thinks! These folks who I am going to refer to as Internet Ike Turners ( IITs) have launched a relentless campaign of threats and intimidation directed at my BG and anyone who dares to read, comment or link to her blog. The acronym (IITs) is a homage to my BG because if you ever read her blog, her acronyms are notorious as well. I like using the word "foolishness". She likes creating acronyms. In fact she is literally changing the Black lexicon online. Her acronyms are popping up EVERYWHERE. Somebody ought to go back through her archives and compile a list of all of the acronyms.
In fact, early during the stages of this blog, she asked me to remove all references to her blog from WAOD because she was concerned that by associating myself with her blog in any way, the mission of WAOD would be attacked by these IITs and she didn't want to take attention away from what I was trying to do. In fact, she says she reads my blog, but does not comment because she doesn't want to draw the attention of the IITs to this blog. She was absolutely right.
You see shortly after I started the podcast and had some early success dragging a statement out of Rev. Al Sharpton condemning DL Hughley, I got an e-mail from a male blogger telling me that at the beginning of my next podcast, I should say, "I do not hate Black men." That came out of left field since I was all sunshine and roses back then. I was like Heck No! First, I don't hate Black men and no reasonable person reading anything I have ever written on this blog or anywhere else could be construed as hating Black men. Second, folks who run around demanding loyalty oaths OR ELSE are dangerous and once you make their loyalty they'll keep demanding more and more. The reason that this loyalty oath was "suggested' was because the Internet Ike Turners had started attacking WAOD because I provided a link to my BG's blog in my blogroll.
You see my BG catches HELL. Pure unadulterated HELL. She gets threatened, flamed, trolled, libeled and is under a relentless assault by the IITs Because. Of. What. She Thinks! And guess what? She just keeps blogging. In spite of the IITs' organized campaign, she continues to express her views unapologetically. Although I don't agree with everything she says, I respect and will defend her right to say it. Don't be confused, her attackers aren't responding by attacking the substance of her arguments, that is too hard for them, so they threaten or incite others to threaten and they commit libel and mis characterize what she is saying and anyone who dares to associate with her in any way is also subject to the same treatment. I guess their goal is to isolate her, something Ike Turner probably did to Tina.
Like all abusive personalities, what these Internet Ike Turners cannot control, they attempt to destroy? So what do you think happened when these IITs rolled over to WAOD? Has any glimpse you have gotten of my personality indicated that I would be cowed by an IIT? Yes, well the IITs ain't the brightest bulbs, but God bless their little hearts and tiny brains, they tried. So here's some background.
HE is drawn to THOUGHTS and increased web traffic. Now he had already launched a campaign against me and WAOD when we were a baby blog, I mean like 40 readers a day, but like Pharaoh, he wanted to kill baby Moses in the crib because he knew what this blog could grow up and become. So I thank him for his role in the prophesy. We all have a role to play, even Pharaoh's army ( I got two words for him.... RED SEA!). So in a way, when Pharaoh's Army showed up at WAOD, I knew I was having an impact because only people capable of doing something draw their attention.
So I was extremely disappointed that the "primary enforcer" did not bless us with one of his legendary comments. I would have loved to have published it. He is very good for your comments section folks. A single comment from the "primary enforcer" guarantees that your comments reach double digits and many times triple digits. So imagine my disappointment ( I really was:( ) that instead of commenting on the subject matter in my post, he instead demanded that I come to his blog and answer some questions he had for me, of course he conveniently included a link to his blog, I told y'all he is obsessed with his web traffic. That was it? "I HAVE QUESTIONS YOU MUST ANSWER AT MY BLOG." I was like WTH? What? No comment on what I posted about to drive my comment thread up into the double digits. All I get is you demanding that I go to your blog and a link promoting your blog, but I don't get one of your infamous,flame throwing incendiary comments? Well that's not fair! I was robbed! So I rejected that comment, but I did go to his blog. Foolishness as usual. So of course being the IIT that he is, he comes BACK to WAOD and again, no comment, just the same DEMAND that I go to his blog. Again I REJECTED HIM! Now those of you who have been victims of DV or Stalking, some off this ought to start sending off alarms...Really, is this an online Lifetime Sunday Movie or what?
Well then shortly thereafter one of his henchmen, actually I actually think the "primary enforcer" is the pawn in all of this and the henchmen uses the primary enforcer to carry out his dirty work so the henchman can keep his hands clean. But anyway, the henchman showed up in a post I did about TMZ calling Beyonce "RoBoho" at the BET Awards. I actually alerted folks to the TMZ comment, but I asked why, at the time I couldn't muster up my normal amount of outrage and encouraged others to weigh in and help me figure it out. Well that post and my response to his henchman is what set off a chain of events that many of you have flooded my inbox with and that I have failed to address directly up until the IITs showed up on the NPR News and Notes Blog this week.
IKE TURNER ASKS WAOD "Why do you make me angry? Do you want me to hit you?"
Now I thought I was having a normal spirited exchange with a poster that I disagreed with. I didn't think anything of it, until this popped up.
After that confrontation, the Internet Ike Turners decided that it was time for Gina to get a beating for her insolence. Now they couldn't get to me an pull a Bishop Weeks so they decided to wound me by libeling me. Now folks, I give y'all a football stadium worth of material to attack me with EVERY DAY. It is a point of personal pride actually, but do these folks attack the substance of what I say on WAOD? Nah, that requires thought, we know Ike Turner is all about inflicting as many wounds as possible to try to get Tina/Gina to submit ( parallels people. parallels). So nah, they don't attack me for what I DO say. They make up stuff that I NEVER said and present it as some kind of "investigative report" on WAOD. Back then I actually took criticism to heart, but I get called a Black-man-hating-race-traitor so often these days that I'm relatively immune now. Their main weapon, was the fact that I link, read, and comment on the blogs of my BG. Although I was expecting SOME response from the IITs, I was actually shocked and quite frankly disappointed that nothing I'd actually written was used in their cyber beat down, instead they focussed on the fact that I selected the handle "Synamon" when I started posting on my BG's blog LONG before WAOD was even thought of.
"Synamon"/Gina/Gem - I claim them ALL. Always Have. Always Will
How do they know that I am Synamon? BECAUSE I TOLD THEM SO. In almost every comment on my BG' blog right after I started this blog, I said "I GOT A BLOG CALLED WHAT ABOUT OUR DAUGHTERS?" Now come on y'all I may be many things, but I ain't slow. Some folks think I am an evil mastermind, so why on earth would I claim this blog under "Synamon" if I was trying to disassociate WAOD with my comments on my BG's blogs? I'll claim any comment I made. I chose to select Gem as my posting name over here because "Synamon" didn't seem to have the gravitas to match the original mission of this blog. No attempt to deceive. But from here on out, I will just post everywhere as gem because quite frankly most folks on the blogs I go to know who I am anyway. So lets get to the substance of their attack. this is a condensed version of their attack which popped up on the NPR blog for the show News and Notes. Y'all know I hit it OUT OF THE BALL PARK when I was on the show in order to invite the attention of the IITs
I didn't respond on this blog to Jameela for several reasons. First, I'd won. Second, I'd dished out my fare share of hyperbole directed at Debra Lee. I'd even superimposed Debra Lee's face on Marie Antoinette's body so I kind of took it as Karmic payback. I mean, when you dish it out, you ought to know how it feels to be the recipient of your own medicine. being called a Black-man-hating-feminazi-lesbian-eugenist was my my karmic retribution for calling Debra Lee the Devil and Jameela and Reginald Hudlin sociopaths. I don't actually think Debra Lee is the Devil..... just carrying out his work. ( come on now y'all). I also knew at the time that Jameela would regret associating herself with the IITs. This was definitely not one of those cases where the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." I knew that one day they will turn their ire on her as well because she is a Black woman with an opinion, IITs don't like that. But she chose to reprint these lies in the wake of her defeat, I'd be upset too if some chick outta nowhere caused havoc on something I had worked very hard on for years. I just wouldn't stoop to outright lying on someone else. Unlike Ms. Donaldson, I am a good enough advocate to go after you with the dirt you've actually done as opposed to making stuff up, but then again, it was her credibility, not mine.
Once they'd gotten their unwitting pawn, Ms. Donaldson to do their dirty work, their recitation of the lies pops up anytime this blog gets attention anywhere on the internet. Reginald Hudlin also hosts the IITs on his Hudlin Entertainment message board. Yes, WAOD has internet stalkers and yes, BET executives and producers disseminate their message. Doesn't matter what the substance of what I have said on a show or in an article, their sole purpose is to libel me and this blog in hopes of damaging the mission of the blog. So once and for all, I am going to address the lies. If you see them crop up again, do not engage them, just put up a link to this post. That is what I plan to do.
I have never described myself as "melinated". I have never used the phrase I am pretty sure because I like Black or African American myself. Most if not all of my comments on Evolved Black Women, one of my BG's newest blogs, have been about my weight loss following my BG's scolding of inactive Black women. I was mad at the time, but I later thanked her for it. I haven't been this weight in seven years.
I have never said anything about anybody breeding with anyone. The closest thing to "breeding" that I have commented on is my question to my BG on Halima's blog, Date a White Guy, where my BG stated that people who are more intelligent are more likly to survive under the theory of survival of the fittest. I replied with a Socratic question challenging that conclusion in light of the fact that most highly educated black women will die unmarried and most educated black women will not rent out their wombs and become babies mamas so most of these women pursuing higher education will die childless and those who do have children will have fewer so actually in this case, the more educated you are, the more likely you are NOT to have your DNA move on to the next generation. I ain't ever said nothing about nobody breeding with anybody for racial purity. Um can somebody explain to me how you achieve racial purity through interracial marriage? Um wouldn't that be the opposite result? I am not an expert in racial purity like the IITs, so enlighten me. Again, complete fiction.
What are your thoughts on interracial marriage? I actually don't think about it a lot at all. That's the point of my BG's blog. No. Big deal to me. If you like it I love it. Marry whoever you want to. It is none of my business and as I get older, I realize that life if too short to try to force someone who longs for companionship to be alone so that they stay in the box my narrow mind constructed for them. Find love where love finds you. If someone doesn't want to read What About Our Daughters? because of my opinion on the subject, be gone already! Don't let the door hit you on the way out, and please don't post a comment saying "I'll never read your blog again!" on the way out.
PLUEEEZ, if I have an opinion, I ain't scared to share it.
So let me break it down. It is hypocritical for me to be sitting here advocating against abusing Black women in the real world while ignoring the cyber equivalent. This goes beyond offering a differing view point or criticism, which I welcome. Libel ain't protected by the First Amendment nor are threats of violence or inciting violence. This ain't about expression. This is about oppression. They know they can't cow me, so they try to undermine with work of the blog. it isn't just me and my BG, these IITs have launched a campaign against many other African American female bloggers. We all respond to them differently. My response was to ignore them up to this point, but as some of you begin to start your own blogs, they will come sniffing around. They'll send you e-mails, and when you don't do what they want you to do, they WILL launch an organized campaign against and incite others to try to threaten and intimidate. If that does not work, then they will try to harm you in whatever way they can. When they do, let somebody know. Don't suffer in silence and do not believe that you are alone. Actually, consider yourself an official part of the Black Blogging Sisterhood. They only try to destroy something with potential.
These folk are not CRAZY, they are perfectly sane and dangerous because people with their MENTALITY would gladly march people who think, act, look different from them into a gas chamber and they have. Again, they aren't happy with controlling YOU, they want to control everyone around you and what you read and THINK.
I know that this post is likely to increase the IITs' blog traffic and that is what they want, but I am putting all this out there because I am sure that at some point those of you who have started your blogs will come under assault by this crew. They'll post under different names, but just read carefully, they can't hide their "MENTALITY" or their writing style.
Remember that you are not alone. I'll stand with you if no one else will. Not because I agree with what you say, but I agree with your right to say it. I also think people should be able to criticize you and I will defend their right to do so as well, but this internet stalking foolishness needs to put on blast. Trust me, I have only mentioned what you see on sites. We won't even go into the e-mail campaigns these folk engage in or incite others to engage in. If you receive some of their threats, refer them to police because the online behavior of these IITs is probably consistent with their offline behavior.
Hello, my name is Gina. I also used to post under the name of Synamon on my BG's blog, and I'm a survivor of the Internet Ike Turners! In the words of Angela Bassett's Tina Turner in the movie" What's Love Got to Do With It"..... I present this YouTube response to the IITs.
The IITs have been talking a lot of noise and spreading lies and since the "primary enforcer" is good for issuing DEMANDS, I demand that he and his crew roll on over to WAOD and say it to my face! We can reenact the limo scene from "What's Love Got to Do With It" in the comments section and folks, when and if they arrive, leave them to me please. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! (pulls off a stiletto boot). Bring it Ike!
LET THAT MARINATE! Y'all have a great weekend. And now we return to our regularly scheduled programming....
How many of you enjoy the Black Womens' Roundtable, the WAOD podcast? Well, the podcasts would not exist if it wasn't for my Blogging Godmother because I learned about Blog Talk Radio on her blog. Quite frankly, from a technical and organizational sense, she showed me what was possible. She had a cause she believed in and she was able to build a community of women who had similar interests. I think it is a shining example of how the internet can be used to connect folks who may have otherwise have felt isolated. I thank them for welcoming me in to their community even though I admitted that I wasn't particularly interested one way or another with interracial marriage. I identified, for whatever reason, with the idea of living an amazing life regardless of what other people thought about it. At the time I was personally and professionally miserable and I was stuck and was content to stay stuck because getting unstuck would mean I would have to break all kinds of rules and expectations I placed on myself. Providence ordained that I would stumble unto a blog with a community of women who were unapologetic about saying "to hell with what other folks think!"
For those who are curious about how in the heck I ended up on my BG's blog, you can read New Loyalty Oath for the Black Blogosphere, but in short, I was being nosy after watching Melody Hobson sitting next to George Lucas in a ton of camera shots this year at the Academy Awards. After like two hours of seeing them side by side, I said " Are they dating?" So being the Googgle Goddess that I am, I typed in "Melody Hobson" and "George Lucas" and my BG's blog popped up. It was destiny because this happened not too long before Don Imus. If I hadn't been bored and nosy that night. What About Our Daughters? would not exist because I would have continued on in my seven year carbohydrate coma ( mmm I haven't had some Blue Bell ice cream in a minute). But I couldn't turn away. It was like my BG was speaking directly to me. Not about marriage or dating, but about dying old and miserable, not living an amazing life because I was too scared to live outside of the comfortable pastry-strewn box ( mmm Krispy Kreme) I had crafted for myself. Quite frankly, she convicted me. Here I was with a designer label law degree and two law licenses and my life consisted of going to work, going home, stuffing my face, going to sleep, repeat. Years of my life lost doing absolutely nothing with my life. So I started chiming in because they were talking about stuff anyone can relate to, not just marriage or dating. I know I wasn't necessarily her target audience, but she was talking to ME!
A few weeks after reading her blog, she hurt my feelings when I read some of her statements about over weight Black women, I'm a member of the CGU. I was like "Hold UP! Wait a minute!," but she was right, how the heck are you going to live an amazing life letting your body go straight to hell, not from a vanity stand point, but from a physical fitness standpoint. I wasn't just inactive, I was outright lazy. I would drive around for five minutes trying to get the closest parking spot, take the elevator to go up or down a single flight of steps and generally avoided breaking a sweat at all costs and was eating whatever the heck I wanted to. I've been on diets since I was 6, but for whatever reason something she said, again, convicted me, I think it was her "well of course you engage in regular physical activity, that is what folks pursuing excellence do and if you aren't doing it, you don't want to be excellent" There was no hand holding, empathy, or scare tactics, just... yall are fully grown women, physical activity is the responsible thing to do. About a month or so later I did something I have never done, joined a gym. Those of you who think I am a witch will be happy to know I'M MELTING! I'M MELTING! and I have guns too! You can't tell me NUTHIN! So I don't know why, but this woman was able to do what 25 years of dieting couldn't. If she wrote a weight loss book, she would make a killing on that alone. Suffice it to say, reading my BG's blog changed my life. And it changed yours too because if I hadn't read her blog, you wouldn't be reading this one.
Gina who is your BG? Well the folks who were with us from the beginning already know who she is because I openly gave her credit for beginning this blog back in the day when only 62 people would visit the blog and 80% of them would stumble in from bloggger.com and the other 20% came from a link on my Blogging Godmother's site. You see my BG does not crave attention, she doesn't need any, her blog is one of the most notorious in the Black Blogosphere. She also doesn't like drama, and hates when her name comes up in other people's drama. So I respect her wishes to keep her name out of it and I won't put up a link to her blog, but if you want to find her it is really easy.
I can understand that because a portion of the subject matter for her blog is controversial to many members in the African American community in fact many people hate her because of what she thinks. Because. Of. What. She. Thinks! These folks who I am going to refer to as Internet Ike Turners ( IITs) have launched a relentless campaign of threats and intimidation directed at my BG and anyone who dares to read, comment or link to her blog. The acronym (IITs) is a homage to my BG because if you ever read her blog, her acronyms are notorious as well. I like using the word "foolishness". She likes creating acronyms. In fact she is literally changing the Black lexicon online. Her acronyms are popping up EVERYWHERE. Somebody ought to go back through her archives and compile a list of all of the acronyms.
In fact, early during the stages of this blog, she asked me to remove all references to her blog from WAOD because she was concerned that by associating myself with her blog in any way, the mission of WAOD would be attacked by these IITs and she didn't want to take attention away from what I was trying to do. In fact, she says she reads my blog, but does not comment because she doesn't want to draw the attention of the IITs to this blog. She was absolutely right.
You see shortly after I started the podcast and had some early success dragging a statement out of Rev. Al Sharpton condemning DL Hughley, I got an e-mail from a male blogger telling me that at the beginning of my next podcast, I should say, "I do not hate Black men." That came out of left field since I was all sunshine and roses back then. I was like Heck No! First, I don't hate Black men and no reasonable person reading anything I have ever written on this blog or anywhere else could be construed as hating Black men. Second, folks who run around demanding loyalty oaths OR ELSE are dangerous and once you make their loyalty they'll keep demanding more and more. The reason that this loyalty oath was "suggested' was because the Internet Ike Turners had started attacking WAOD because I provided a link to my BG's blog in my blogroll.
You see my BG catches HELL. Pure unadulterated HELL. She gets threatened, flamed, trolled, libeled and is under a relentless assault by the IITs Because. Of. What. She Thinks! And guess what? She just keeps blogging. In spite of the IITs' organized campaign, she continues to express her views unapologetically. Although I don't agree with everything she says, I respect and will defend her right to say it. Don't be confused, her attackers aren't responding by attacking the substance of her arguments, that is too hard for them, so they threaten or incite others to threaten and they commit libel and mis characterize what she is saying and anyone who dares to associate with her in any way is also subject to the same treatment. I guess their goal is to isolate her, something Ike Turner probably did to Tina.
Like all abusive personalities, what these Internet Ike Turners cannot control, they attempt to destroy? So what do you think happened when these IITs rolled over to WAOD? Has any glimpse you have gotten of my personality indicated that I would be cowed by an IIT? Yes, well the IITs ain't the brightest bulbs, but God bless their little hearts and tiny brains, they tried. So here's some background.
MY CRIMES AGAINST THE INTERNET IKE TURNERS
After I was asked to say "I do not have Black men." I refused and then I wrote New Loyalty Oath for the Black Blogosphere. The IITs stayed away from WAOD until we started to get more play in the Blogosphere.Pharaoh's Army Arrives at WAOD
I have to say it was probably a few weeks after the Al Sharpton statement that their "primary enforcer" showed up on WAOD. I had actually been anticipating his arrival because once he pops up in a Black blogger's comments section, that means you have truly arrived. I won't put a link to his blog mainly because what he craves most is page clicks as he states repeatedly in his e-mails to my BG. But anyway, if you are a Black blogger and you haven't been attacked or called a "white supremacist house n#$*&er" by the "primary enforcer", they you truly haven't been properly initiated into the Black Blogoshpere. You've been robbed of a very important experience! You know you are being a successful blogger when the "primary enforcer" arrives.HE is drawn to THOUGHTS and increased web traffic. Now he had already launched a campaign against me and WAOD when we were a baby blog, I mean like 40 readers a day, but like Pharaoh, he wanted to kill baby Moses in the crib because he knew what this blog could grow up and become. So I thank him for his role in the prophesy. We all have a role to play, even Pharaoh's army ( I got two words for him.... RED SEA!). So in a way, when Pharaoh's Army showed up at WAOD, I knew I was having an impact because only people capable of doing something draw their attention.
So I was extremely disappointed that the "primary enforcer" did not bless us with one of his legendary comments. I would have loved to have published it. He is very good for your comments section folks. A single comment from the "primary enforcer" guarantees that your comments reach double digits and many times triple digits. So imagine my disappointment ( I really was:( ) that instead of commenting on the subject matter in my post, he instead demanded that I come to his blog and answer some questions he had for me, of course he conveniently included a link to his blog, I told y'all he is obsessed with his web traffic. That was it? "I HAVE QUESTIONS YOU MUST ANSWER AT MY BLOG." I was like WTH? What? No comment on what I posted about to drive my comment thread up into the double digits. All I get is you demanding that I go to your blog and a link promoting your blog, but I don't get one of your infamous,flame throwing incendiary comments? Well that's not fair! I was robbed! So I rejected that comment, but I did go to his blog. Foolishness as usual. So of course being the IIT that he is, he comes BACK to WAOD and again, no comment, just the same DEMAND that I go to his blog. Again I REJECTED HIM! Now those of you who have been victims of DV or Stalking, some off this ought to start sending off alarms...Really, is this an online Lifetime Sunday Movie or what?
Well then shortly thereafter one of his henchmen, actually I actually think the "primary enforcer" is the pawn in all of this and the henchmen uses the primary enforcer to carry out his dirty work so the henchman can keep his hands clean. But anyway, the henchman showed up in a post I did about TMZ calling Beyonce "RoBoho" at the BET Awards. I actually alerted folks to the TMZ comment, but I asked why, at the time I couldn't muster up my normal amount of outrage and encouraged others to weigh in and help me figure it out. Well that post and my response to his henchman is what set off a chain of events that many of you have flooded my inbox with and that I have failed to address directly up until the IITs showed up on the NPR News and Notes Blog this week.
IKE TURNER ASKS WAOD "Why do you make me angry? Do you want me to hit you?"
Now I thought I was having a normal spirited exchange with a poster that I disagreed with. I didn't think anything of it, until this popped up.
Well you can predict my response to that. Oh it was some of my classic knee jerk response stream of consciousness commenting. Since we have started to receive more attention, I have begun to temper my comments and try to be more diplomatic. Mama compliments me all the time on my improvement. But man just going back and reading my response made me nostalgic for the days when this place was my own personal wild wild west. But to whom much is given...blah blah blah. So I try to be more judicious these days.
Are you trying to alienate me? Do you want me to go off like some keyboard commandos do? "The henchman" in the WAOD comments June 28, 2007
After that confrontation, the Internet Ike Turners decided that it was time for Gina to get a beating for her insolence. Now they couldn't get to me an pull a Bishop Weeks so they decided to wound me by libeling me. Now folks, I give y'all a football stadium worth of material to attack me with EVERY DAY. It is a point of personal pride actually, but do these folks attack the substance of what I say on WAOD? Nah, that requires thought, we know Ike Turner is all about inflicting as many wounds as possible to try to get Tina/Gina to submit ( parallels people. parallels). So nah, they don't attack me for what I DO say. They make up stuff that I NEVER said and present it as some kind of "investigative report" on WAOD. Back then I actually took criticism to heart, but I get called a Black-man-hating-race-traitor so often these days that I'm relatively immune now. Their main weapon, was the fact that I link, read, and comment on the blogs of my BG. Although I was expecting SOME response from the IITs, I was actually shocked and quite frankly disappointed that nothing I'd actually written was used in their cyber beat down, instead they focussed on the fact that I selected the handle "Synamon" when I started posting on my BG's blog LONG before WAOD was even thought of.
"Synamon"/Gina/Gem - I claim them ALL. Always Have. Always Will
How do they know that I am Synamon? BECAUSE I TOLD THEM SO. In almost every comment on my BG' blog right after I started this blog, I said "I GOT A BLOG CALLED WHAT ABOUT OUR DAUGHTERS?" Now come on y'all I may be many things, but I ain't slow. Some folks think I am an evil mastermind, so why on earth would I claim this blog under "Synamon" if I was trying to disassociate WAOD with my comments on my BG's blogs? I'll claim any comment I made. I chose to select Gem as my posting name over here because "Synamon" didn't seem to have the gravitas to match the original mission of this blog. No attempt to deceive. But from here on out, I will just post everywhere as gem because quite frankly most folks on the blogs I go to know who I am anyway. So lets get to the substance of their attack. this is a condensed version of their attack which popped up on the NPR blog for the show News and Notes. Y'all know I hit it OUT OF THE BALL PARK when I was on the show in order to invite the attention of the IITs
Gina MCcauley is a virulent anti-Black eugenicist who views Black men as being damaged beyond repair and the vast majority of Black women to be genetically inferior to her. To the latter, she has gone so far as to describe herself as being melineated instead of Black to express her superiority.
To top this off she advocates that melineated woman need to breed with everyone beside Black men to keep the gene pool pure.
At the end of the day I find it remarkable and rather pathetic that any self-respecting Black woman would rally around McCaulley as an advocate for them and their daughters. Comment From Jefferson Seargeant at the NPR Blog
BET COLLABORATES WITH THE IITs
Now many of you have flooded my inbox asking me about this foolishness, especially when Jameela Donaldson, the creator of the website and show "Hot Ghetto Mess" posted the IITs dossier on WAOD verbatim on her website and myspace page after I cleaned her clock and critics savaged her show. Now y'all have to remember that in the heat of battle, folks from all over the world were flooding my inbox with personal dirt on Jameela Donaldson, Debra Lee and Reginald Hudlin. I mean past, present, future BET employees and cast members, scorned lovers, classmates, you name it, but I NEVER posted that information because I wanted the debate to be about the show and BET's programing decisions, not who folks are sleeping with and whose marriages they are responsible for breaking up.I didn't respond on this blog to Jameela for several reasons. First, I'd won. Second, I'd dished out my fare share of hyperbole directed at Debra Lee. I'd even superimposed Debra Lee's face on Marie Antoinette's body so I kind of took it as Karmic payback. I mean, when you dish it out, you ought to know how it feels to be the recipient of your own medicine. being called a Black-man-hating-feminazi-lesbian-eugenist was my my karmic retribution for calling Debra Lee the Devil and Jameela and Reginald Hudlin sociopaths. I don't actually think Debra Lee is the Devil..... just carrying out his work. ( come on now y'all). I also knew at the time that Jameela would regret associating herself with the IITs. This was definitely not one of those cases where the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." I knew that one day they will turn their ire on her as well because she is a Black woman with an opinion, IITs don't like that. But she chose to reprint these lies in the wake of her defeat, I'd be upset too if some chick outta nowhere caused havoc on something I had worked very hard on for years. I just wouldn't stoop to outright lying on someone else. Unlike Ms. Donaldson, I am a good enough advocate to go after you with the dirt you've actually done as opposed to making stuff up, but then again, it was her credibility, not mine.
Once they'd gotten their unwitting pawn, Ms. Donaldson to do their dirty work, their recitation of the lies pops up anytime this blog gets attention anywhere on the internet. Reginald Hudlin also hosts the IITs on his Hudlin Entertainment message board. Yes, WAOD has internet stalkers and yes, BET executives and producers disseminate their message. Doesn't matter what the substance of what I have said on a show or in an article, their sole purpose is to libel me and this blog in hopes of damaging the mission of the blog. So once and for all, I am going to address the lies. If you see them crop up again, do not engage them, just put up a link to this post. That is what I plan to do.
MY RESPONSE TO THE IITs
I have never referred to Black men in general as DBR ( Damaged Beyond Repair), that is one of the many acronyms my BG has come up with. She has a lot of them, MEW, EVM, PAET. That is her thing, but I don't think I have ever heard her refer to all Black men as DBR, in fact I recall a post where she talks about the EVM vs the DBR - not trueI have never described myself as "melinated". I have never used the phrase I am pretty sure because I like Black or African American myself. Most if not all of my comments on Evolved Black Women, one of my BG's newest blogs, have been about my weight loss following my BG's scolding of inactive Black women. I was mad at the time, but I later thanked her for it. I haven't been this weight in seven years.
I have never said anything about anybody breeding with anyone. The closest thing to "breeding" that I have commented on is my question to my BG on Halima's blog, Date a White Guy, where my BG stated that people who are more intelligent are more likly to survive under the theory of survival of the fittest. I replied with a Socratic question challenging that conclusion in light of the fact that most highly educated black women will die unmarried and most educated black women will not rent out their wombs and become babies mamas so most of these women pursuing higher education will die childless and those who do have children will have fewer so actually in this case, the more educated you are, the more likely you are NOT to have your DNA move on to the next generation. I ain't ever said nothing about nobody breeding with anybody for racial purity. Um can somebody explain to me how you achieve racial purity through interracial marriage? Um wouldn't that be the opposite result? I am not an expert in racial purity like the IITs, so enlighten me. Again, complete fiction.
What are your thoughts on interracial marriage? I actually don't think about it a lot at all. That's the point of my BG's blog. No. Big deal to me. If you like it I love it. Marry whoever you want to. It is none of my business and as I get older, I realize that life if too short to try to force someone who longs for companionship to be alone so that they stay in the box my narrow mind constructed for them. Find love where love finds you. If someone doesn't want to read What About Our Daughters? because of my opinion on the subject, be gone already! Don't let the door hit you on the way out, and please don't post a comment saying "I'll never read your blog again!" on the way out.
PLUEEEZ, if I have an opinion, I ain't scared to share it.
So let me break it down. It is hypocritical for me to be sitting here advocating against abusing Black women in the real world while ignoring the cyber equivalent. This goes beyond offering a differing view point or criticism, which I welcome. Libel ain't protected by the First Amendment nor are threats of violence or inciting violence. This ain't about expression. This is about oppression. They know they can't cow me, so they try to undermine with work of the blog. it isn't just me and my BG, these IITs have launched a campaign against many other African American female bloggers. We all respond to them differently. My response was to ignore them up to this point, but as some of you begin to start your own blogs, they will come sniffing around. They'll send you e-mails, and when you don't do what they want you to do, they WILL launch an organized campaign against and incite others to try to threaten and intimidate. If that does not work, then they will try to harm you in whatever way they can. When they do, let somebody know. Don't suffer in silence and do not believe that you are alone. Actually, consider yourself an official part of the Black Blogging Sisterhood. They only try to destroy something with potential.
These folk are not CRAZY, they are perfectly sane and dangerous because people with their MENTALITY would gladly march people who think, act, look different from them into a gas chamber and they have. Again, they aren't happy with controlling YOU, they want to control everyone around you and what you read and THINK.
I know that this post is likely to increase the IITs' blog traffic and that is what they want, but I am putting all this out there because I am sure that at some point those of you who have started your blogs will come under assault by this crew. They'll post under different names, but just read carefully, they can't hide their "MENTALITY" or their writing style.
Remember that you are not alone. I'll stand with you if no one else will. Not because I agree with what you say, but I agree with your right to say it. I also think people should be able to criticize you and I will defend their right to do so as well, but this internet stalking foolishness needs to put on blast. Trust me, I have only mentioned what you see on sites. We won't even go into the e-mail campaigns these folk engage in or incite others to engage in. If you receive some of their threats, refer them to police because the online behavior of these IITs is probably consistent with their offline behavior.
Hello, my name is Gina. I also used to post under the name of Synamon on my BG's blog, and I'm a survivor of the Internet Ike Turners! In the words of Angela Bassett's Tina Turner in the movie" What's Love Got to Do With It"..... I present this YouTube response to the IITs.
The IITs have been talking a lot of noise and spreading lies and since the "primary enforcer" is good for issuing DEMANDS, I demand that he and his crew roll on over to WAOD and say it to my face! We can reenact the limo scene from "What's Love Got to Do With It" in the comments section and folks, when and if they arrive, leave them to me please. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! (pulls off a stiletto boot). Bring it Ike!
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Ok, I'll leave 'em to you, but I'm taking off my earrings just in case.
Thank you, Gina.
Ive always enjoyed your blog for many reasons and hey I have a daughter lol. And I know about all the bloggers you are talking about.
I don't agree with you equating other male bloggers to Ike Turner for the same reason I don't read your BG's many blogs cause she does the same thing.
Seems like to me your using, much as she does, stereotypes to describe the whole of Black Males. And thats what pisses so called good black men off.
In my opinion we are all fighting the same fight and the less we result to the stereotypes that have been tearing the black community apart the better we will be.
There is plenty of room on this internet for every opinion. But folks need to move away from highlighting the negatives of one group of people to make another group look better. Or vice versa making oneself look better by categorizing a group of men in this case as vile disgusting women beaters.
Other then that keep fighting the good fight and take care.
Thanks for having my back. I probably should have said this a few weeks ago, but now that I have, a burden has been lifted.
"The primary enforcer" is obsessed with me and this blog, but he won't post under his own name here. I am basically calling him out on it and daring him to uncloak.
I am not talking about ALL black men or ALL black male bloggers. You know that there is a core group of these people and you know how they operate. i have gotten mad love from African American male bloggers, but please, you know two in particular can't keep WAOD out of their mouths. They've been libeling me for months and I did not say a word. So give me my one post when they have had tons of posts, e-mails, message board threads and God knows what else to try to destroy me and this blog. And they don't just do it to me and my BG, they do it to other African American female bloggers.
They have a pattern of behavior consistent with controlling personalities and I forgot to mention that they also have henchwomen as well.
Also, people need to know that Viacom is facilitating their work.
I would think we are fighting the same fight too, but you know they do not feel the same and infact go out of their way to try to tear down ANY success we experience at WAOD. One laments the media coverage WAOD got. I didn't ask the Hollywood Reporter to blow my life as I knew it to smithereens by putting a link to my blog on the AP wire. it just happened to me.
If they weren't so hateful and mean, maybe it would happen to them too.
Perhaps their role as the Black Blogosphere's bullies will finally get them the attention they crave.
If nothing else, we might as well have a battle to the end all battles once and for all. Everybody knows what they are doing, but nobody calls them on it.
I'm tired of ignoring it.
I am truly sorry that this is happening to you and any other sister who blogs, which may come to include me too, at some point in time. I am sure you're more than capable of dealing with this and wish you much success.
Gina, I stumbled upon your blog about a week ago. It sounds utterly corny to say, but it moved me. For a long time I had been saddened and frightened by what I see as the devaluing of black women, not just in the mainstream, but within our own community. You gave voice to what I had too long been silent about.
You are my Blog Godmother, as I launched my own blog, www.whattamisaid.blogspot.com this week. If I can develop it to be half as effective in this "war" as yours is, then I will be very happy.
What you are doing is very important, and I applaud you for taking a stand. You are inspiring. I don't for a minute worry that foolish folks will keep you from your mission, but I know it is nice to hear that you are appreciated now and then. So, there you have it.
Keep on fighting for our survival.
Welcome aboard Gina, I'm glad to know I'm not their only target. At least one of them has been stalking me for almost 10 years. Hell, I thought their ire was limited to black women who dared to engage in interracial dating, but apparently they're out to get any of us who dare have an original thought. It would actually be scary if they weren't so effing ignorant.
Roslyn,
You too? Thanks for sharing. Ten years? See, I have worked with this "population" so I figured that this wasn't just internet bullying.
If you have been the victim of an IIT, please share if you feel comfortable.
THIS is who BET aligns themselves with folks, internet stalkers. Idiots. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend.
Your topic today touched me deeply. I too have been struggling with my weight. I will not address that issue here. However, I will address my struggle on my blog at a later date.
As you know, I would not have started blogging if it where not for you. You basically told me to get my own blog to deal with the Newark shootings of 4 Delaware State University students. (Sidebar: I am a 1990 Graduate of Delaware State University) I told you that I was called to comment, not to blog. Nevertheless, with your assistance, I created charactercorner.blogspot.com.
I have only been up and blogging for approximately 3 weeks and had over 2,700 views (give or take a few views that belong to me). I was honored when you took time out of your schedule to post comments on my blog, which was inspired by WAOD.
In a short period of time, I have made some blog friends: Don, Pamela, Brynn, Still_Pocahontaz, SkeeWee, Jae9598, Pirouette1196, Sunfireg, 2unruly, PenelopeezVerse, Sexyasiwannabe, IstandbehindtheIAM, Tigris, Manchild, Lizzy, Smiley, Mystery, M.kam, Glitglitgirl Blackesq, Randi523, Sexxy, and Aqtpie.
I am not sure which direction I want to go with my blog. Whatever direction I decide to take, I want it to heal, challenge, uplift, inform and encourage others and myself to live consciously with love and integrity.
Although we may disagree at times, I still respect and admire your advocacy.
Allow me to borrow a question from my own poem entitled When: “When are we going to give our sisters and brothers credit where it is DUE, instead of putting them down because you wish it was YOU?”
Gina, thank you for being who you are. You have been such an inspiration to me.
In the space of a few days I am not only part of a mysterious cabal but also a member of the Ike Turner Legion.
This is indicative of so much that should make any individual wary about your reasoning. I don't have a blog nor a website and have posted here approximately 3 times, and always with my real name.
As you mentioned many blogs are interconnected and there is cross-promotion. Using your logic whenever your name or site comes up as a topic and someone comments they are "stalking" you? I just want to be clear as if by happenstance I post at a site before you, and you comment the same line of reasoning will apply.
Your couching my comments in terms of abuse, sexism and misogyny is completely disingenious. If in your view BET's past can be used as a viable means of viewing their current product and motives with a great degree of skepticism. Then why would your comments in the context of your BG's blog not be applicable in the same manner?
You take the injustice commited against Mr. Wilson and immediately want to convert the matter into a gender war issue. Obviously, you preface your comments by stating you don't want to discuss the sentence;( the actual substantive issue at hand) but rather turn consensual sex into abuse and exploitation.
There are real issues of abuse, violence and subjugation taking place against women as a whole. Your characterizing my statements as being indicative of them diminishes their seriousness dramatically.
If there are a legion of Ike Turners out to get you, name them all. At the very least the 2 at the heart of the issue. It would be nice to know who the Ike Turner Generals are.
Folks head on over to the Hudlin Entertainment message board, you will see a comment saying "this woman needs to be exposed!" It will contain almost the same identical language that Jefferson Sergeant posted at PBS taking verbatim from "the primary enforcer'
Notice when Jefferson Sergeant went over to the NPR board it was not to address the comments I made on News and Notes, but to make sure that the NPR folks could read his outright lies. Notice how he didn't address my response to his statement on the NPR board. He can't because I never said what he said. The primary defense to a charge of libel is the truth. Where is your evidence?
Also notice Jefferson NEVER addresses whether I said what he told the NPR board that I said and now he whine because he has been lumped in with the IIT's well
Jefferson,
Didn't you ascribe words to me that I didn't say based on whose blog i read and post on?
Notice y'all that he doesn't say. Well on page X and Z of day 2 or three you said XYZ, he engages in an obfuscation technique and says "well you pick on BET! "
Find me one time where I have said that Debra Lee said something that she didn't actually say.
Yeah nice try. Again verbatim y'all. Verbatim and YES there are way more than two.
Jefferson why are you trying to disassociate with your boys all of a sudden when you have been literally quoting them? Claim your association. Say it loud! Claim them!
Dealing with these Ike Turners is not pleasant. They like to call you names and question your character. If you don't do what they want then you are a sell out and not doing your "job". You have to agree with them in all respects or else you are a fascist. If you ever make a mistake or are not totally consistent all the time then to them that means you have no credibility and you are dangerous. You have to allow them to post, not censor their comments, and allow them to do so or else you are a man-hater.
And forget the argument that they are woman-haters. They will just say thats not true because they are married to women and have daughters so its absolutely impossible for them to have a thing against Black women. They are anti-female power in any way including the right to choose partners and raise children the way they want. They just won't stop.
They are so hurt when a Black man does or is accused of anything. Its like no matter what Black men do, Black women are supposed to stick with them but the same doesn't go for Black women. They condone criticizing, insulting, and slandering Black women and think for some reason they are justified for doing so. They blame Black women for the Black man's problem like they have no responsibility.
I am not talking about all Black male bloggers, just the one's who Gina is referring to. They are very sensitive and lash out at Black women if they tell anyone that Black men have caused them harm. In more than one case they have felt personally attacked when another Black man is criticized in the media and they have voiced pretty irrational arguments against women's rights and other controversial issues.
Personally, if they are trying to show that Black men are great dating partners they are doing the exact opposite! I am now on the look out to avoid men who sound like these Ike Turners and instead go for the ones who are more accepting of women and not so terrifying. I have never met men like this and if they intend to be representatives of Black men then thats a real turn off. They had better be a really small minority of Black men and I am really hoping they are. These guys are really scary and I am now avoiding them.
I am with you on the physical activity, which I call my mobility factor, forgetting about how being fat and lazy looks, I want to be able to move!
I don’t know the players in this drama and I don’t think I want to. However, I am sad and tired that some black men (all men really) hang on to mirroring the old hierarchy of power. Men first, women last, which translates into black men and white men fighting each other and excepting women to forget about themselves and side with one or the other. Perfect example “we are in this together!” No, we are not. We are not in something together that means when the battle is won you are in charge and I am still getting my ass kick. No, we are not in it together until we are truly in it together.
And forget the argument that they are woman-haters. They will just say thats not true because they are married to women and have daughters so its absolutely impossible for them to have a thing against Black women.
Or when they are called on it, shown an example they will ask their loyal readers if they are women haters and their readers will suck up and say no, including other women, and nothing will change.
Awww, should be expecting, not excepting.
Folks,
Don't be fooled by Jefferson Sargeant. I took the liberty of pasting his comment verbatim from Reginald Hudlin's Hudlin Entertainment Message Board. Despite what Ebony magazine says, Reginald Hudlin is not a nice man and is helping to spread the essade of the IITs. Now somebody tell me that Jefferson isn't using identical language of some notorious IITs. Now he is saying he just "happened" onto a board. Naw, this is calculated plotting. here is just one of the things he said......
It's time for this woman to get exposed. McCaulley is an anti Black eugenicist who describes Black men as being Damged beyond Repair aka DBR and the majority of Black women as being genetically inferior. To this point " The New Martin Luther King" came up with the term Melineated to differentiate herself from the common inferior Black women.
This self-hating, delusional FASOOM leader is the one telling Reggie and Debra Lee that they hate Black people. If she pops up on national TV and her background doesn't get exposed something is really wrong.
Nice try though. Jefferson you don't wear the victim role well especially when your digital footprint is all over the place.
Bronze,
You too? Dayum and you are one of the nicest bloggers I know. WTH?
They bring out the bad side of me seriously. Like when I read negative comments on this blog it gets me angry and I say things that I usually never do. The last time I visited one of their sites my heart started to race and I could hardly breathe. I was just waiting to see more slander of me on the blog. One thing they do though is send you nasty emails but they post anonymously. So if they get you to post an angry comment on their blog you are sunk and can't delete it. So they end up looking all good and decent because the emails were private.
Its really true. In dealing with Black men who I feel are trying to belittle or dominate me then the claws come out.
Thanks for bringing this out Gina.
I only started reading the "black blogosphere" in the past month or so and have been shocked at some of the vitriol directed against you and other female bloggers. I also read your BG's blog occasionally and, while I don't necessarily agree with everything she writes, I understand her need and right share her what her perspectives have evolved into.
Thanks for not letting them force you to stop talking or soften up your views for their liking. Bloggers like you have also inspired me to try my hand at the craft (bookishblackgirl.blogspot.com) so we hear you loud and clear.
Did you know that BET is Viacom's MOST profitable division ? (According to recently promoted Scott Mills, President and Chief Operating Officer)
No wonder some folks are angry and out for WAOD.
The above tidbit was courtesay of the Ebony article entitled "The TRUTH Behind The New BET>"
The URL for WAOD was also included in the article.
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have no doubt that Reginald Hudlin and Viacom have partnered with the IITs. I mean go to this message board, in fact take screen captures.
I mean Donaldson, their employee basically entered an alliance with them.
So yeah, I knew that I would pay a price for speaking out and messing with their paper.
What is sad is that one of their fears appears to be me reaching a wider audience, in particular, TV, what these idiots don't know is that I have had multiple opportunities to go on National Television and declined, but the next time I get an offer I will accept if for no other reason than to spite these idiots and tell the world about the IITs and the alliance they are in with Viacom Employees.
Just understand the caliber of the people you're dealing with. I've been online for a long time, but have certainly never reached anything like the level you have Gina. So just be prepared, it's coming. My crimes?
1. Being in an IR and encouraging other black women to consider the same option.
2. Pointing out to black women the futility in continuing our unrequited allegiance to black men. Political separation and focusing on our own needs is the only thing that will save us.
3. Stating that we needed to form a Black Women's Anti-Defamation League to defend ourselves from assaults by ANY one.
For these views I got the following backlash:
They sent cartoons of dead babies after my miscarriage. Mocked the death of my mother and accused my husband of adultery. They took my wedding photo and posted it all over Black Voices, and you know what a gang of nutjobs hang out on that site. I was still being harassed as recently as a few months ago. Now, as if attacking my dead baby wasn't bad enough, one of them has my live son up on his site with a post telling biracial children that their white parents don't love them unless they adhere to HIS agenda. These people will stop at nothing. I just want y'all to be aware, and be careful.
That is why I did this post. To make other people aware that they should not confuse these people with your typical troll.
As I stated earlier. They don't like Black women with an opinion of any sort. They are not crazy, they are perfectly sane just like any other abuser.
Wow Roslyn, thank you for sharing. I knew that there were a bunch of stories worse than mine.
I know it is only going to get worse. They have been engaged in escalating behavior. That is why I have finally come out.
If I come up missing, y'all know who to look at first.
Roslyn, if you care to share, maybe in email, did you ever involve law enforcement?
Yes, y'all this bunch is THAT bad.
Roslyn I'm sorry to hear all these things. As painful as it is, I'm glad you are willing to share it. It goes to show the true caliber indeed.
I like to think the non-black societies are starting to catch on to these internal black female oppression dictators. It's so obvious at times when you see some of them stoop so low just to hold on to it for dear life.
Gina, I am sorry you got attacked by the Internet Ike Turners. I know how frustrating it feels, I don't have a blog, but just a humble website giving tribute to black women. I've been attacked and threatened recently by an IIT living in the UK. He declared war on me when I rejected his poem honoring his white wife (?), and when I rejected him on myspace. He also sent friends to try and ruffle my feathers, one claimed to be living in my area and "will be knocking on my door very soon". At first I brushed off their hate mail, but it grew serious when he played identity games on various UK and US forums/chat groups, and the hate mail really began. At first it was frustrating and hurtful from the things they said (you won't believe how many people are willing to take up someone's else's false cause). I felt alone and learned a lesson about internet "friends". I had to put up a false affiliation advisory for couple weeks and let it pass. Recently I also had to shut down most of my main site features for maintenance, I'm sure he thinks it was done on his account, strangely he has not bothered me since.
You see, this is what they want, to silence you. There are certain types of black males out here that HATE black women. Their goal is to silence you, make you feel powerless, insecure and keep the world from respecting you/us - the typical Ike. They will do anything in their false power to keep black women oppressed and to stay there! This is the only "control" or "power" they seem to think they have and they are not willing to let it go without a nasty fight. Girl, this means you are moving some serious mountains! Good!
As for your GM's site, I may not have agreed with all things said, but I do agree with most of her powerful messages. I'm also sorry that she is being flamed for her plight, but that does not surprise me.
I'm consoling you now for what it's worth, stay strong, many have your back.
Roslyn, that is terrible. It must have took some courage to be featured in that article last week with you dh and son.
BTW, your son is adorable.
Gina, I am sorry you got attacked by the Internet Ike Turners. I know how frustrating it feels, I don't have a blog, but just a humble website giving tribute to black women. I've been attacked and threatened recently by an IIT living in the UK. He declared war on me when I rejected his poem honoring his white wife (?), and when I rejected him on myspace. He also sent friends to try and ruffle my feathers, one claimed to be living in my area and "will be knocking on my door very soon". At first I brushed off their hate mail, but it grew serious when he played identity games on various UK and US forums/chat groups, and the hate mail really began. At first it was frustrating and hurtful from the things they said (you won't believe how many people are willing to take up someone's else's false cause). There was no one to console me, I felt alone and learned a lesson about internet "friends". I had to put up a false affiliation advisory for couple weeks and let it pass. Recently I also had to shut down most of my main site features for maintenance, I'm sure he thinks it was done on his account, strangely he has not bothered me since.
You see, this is what they want, to silence you. There are certain types of black males out here that HATE black women. Their goal is to silence you, make you feel powerless, insecure and keep the world from respecting you/us - the typical Ike. They will do anything in their false power to keep black women oppressed and to stay there! This is the only "control" or "power" they seem to think they have and they are not willing to let it go without a nasty fight. Girl, this means you are moving some serious mountains! Good!
As for your GM's site, I may not have agreed with all things said, but I do agree with most of her powerful messages. I'm also sorry that she is being flamed for her plight, but that does not surprise me.
I'm consoling you now for what it's worth, stay strong, many have your back.
Pinky J, girl I love you, but in the future just post a portion of any articles you find and then do a link. I don't want to infringe on folks copyrights.
Pinky J said...
Cable Ratings for Week of Sept. 3-9
‘House of Payne’ returns to No.1; BET and Disney share week’s top cable network
(September 13, 2007) TBS was able to laugh its way back to the top of the most popular cable shows with black households, thanks to the new, rock solid popularity of “House of Payne” The show took first and second place for the first week of September, and was the only program to attract over one million black households.
First, after a long diatribe from your "BG" You respond with, "I'M IN". That is a fact. What did you mean by "I'M IN" other than to affirm every comment that preceded your statement? Most importantly the creation of FASUM.
To the victim part, laughter is always a good thing and your comment provided some. Your interview on Afronerd will provide more than enough context for the "Martin luther king" reference.
Again, unless you are referring to the other posters at Hudlin Entertainment forum, who are my boys? Identify them and there comments.
I don't drink and I am whine free. I didn't ask for my name to be removed and I don't want it to be.
What I would like, again, is for you to identify these supposed masterminds in the background whose bidding I and others are supposedly carrying out.
Lastly, everything is either couched in sexism/misogny, personal conspiracy or cloak and dagger when it comes to you. It's the internet who is trying to hide their commentary from you? Unlike others I use my real name all the time. No psuedonym or anonynomous posting necessary.
I just noticed this.
Now somebody tell me that Jefferson isn't using identical language of some notorious IITs. Now he is saying he just "happened" onto a board. Naw, this is calculated plotting. here is just one of the things he said......
The preceding is as mentioned from the Hudlin Entertainment Forum.
I joined that forum years ago, long before your moment of notoriety. In fact, I was one of the first members. To add more fact, instead of hyperbole; Hudlin's forum was a showcase for his debut as the writer of Black Panther. He wasn't even with BET at the time.
The most beautiful irony in all of this ( despite Ms. Mccaulley's assumptions)is that one of my threads there was a critique of BET.
The digital footprints you speak of readily testify to all of this. Funny how these things work when you choose to cite them.
If this doesn't bring home everything I said about conspiracy theories and outlandish claims of sexism and violence as it pertains to you nothing will.
Gina,
Thanks for the heads-up on the ITs.
An article about this very topic appeared in the Washington Post a couple of weeks after I launched my blog: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/29/AR2007042901555.html. It seems that female bloggers of every persuasion have found themselves the targets of vicious campaigns to silence them and shut them down.
For a moment reading about all of this gave me pause. But that feeling passed.
Thanks to every one for the heads-up.
It's too bad that there isn't a clearinghouse website or blog where these fools can be "outed" along the line of Hollaback NY where street harassers are caught on cellphone pics along with recounts of the incidents.
In this case, actual harassing emails along with the offenders name could actually be posted and there would be no obfuscating the vitriol or expletives, so that readers can truly see the evil of these souls.
Accounts like Roz's harassment can be told so that other bloggers can no what to be aware of.
Legal advice about harassment can also be posted.
For street harassment, going back to Hollaback NY.
For those rare accounts of harassing phone calls, snippets can be posted.
If some of these fools are deterred by being "outed," then the site would be serving its purpose.
But of course, legal advice would need to be given so that the site isn't hit with lawsuits.
This is just an idea, but something needs to be done.
Gina,
Wow, I can't believe what you and many other female bloggers have been going through.
Roslyn,
I'm so sorry to hear what these sociopaths have resorted to.
God, where to start. I am typing through so many tears, this pain we go through fighting black men who hate and want to control black women; this pain we go through defending our honor against black and white men and black female gatekeepers who are set on destroying us on the daily, is so acute. I'm not being melodramatic when I say it is a form of soul murder. I have been reading your blog since the beginning.
I don't know who your BG is, so I will stay out of her drama, except to say that I am pretty certain that if black men and their gatekeepers are threatened, she is saying things that encourage black women to reclaim their selfhood and dignity in the face of brutal attacks and bald faced lies.
I am so sorry that you are going through this and I wanted to write and express my support for your blog and solidarity with you and all bloggers who fight for black women and continue to stand and call out these sicknesses within black communities.
I wonder if Aaron McGruder (who I like and respect) feels used by Reginald Hudlin as just a stepping stone to what he really wanted: the tin crown at "B.utts E.very T.ime" network.
These people, the Viacoms, the BETs, the Jams, the Reg Hudlins, are enemies to black women as far as I'm concerned. Gina, you are NOT alone. I have personally witnessed a particular situation where a young woman was systematically stalked and a formal, organized blackball campaign was waged against her in an attempt to destroy her. Why? Because she is a dark skinned black girl, she is BEAUTIFUL, she is TOO GOOD at what she does and she has the army of the Power of God within her! Yes, it IS that deep because our hatred of our own is so deep.
Her entire life was highjacked/stolen and her reputation dragged through the mud by a particular strain of black man (and their supporters and financiers) who pride themselves on a platform I call:
The Underdog-because-I-don't-get-attention-and-am-not-rich-like-50-but-wanna-be-rich-like-50-so I'ma-ride-this-Underground-Shaka Zulu-Brooklyn/Brooklyn-fake-concern-for-poor-black-girls-fake-afro/locs-and-I-hate-the-way-dark-skinned-black-women-look-and-as-soon-as-I-blow-I'm-out-the-ghetto" Party.
The rampant, viral, hatred and jealousy that black people feel for our own is a form of sickness. And it is a sickness that is aided and abetted by:
1. black men who absolutely abhor THE POWER OF BLACK WOMEN and
2. self hating black women who can't stand to see OTHER black women with anything so much that she would rather a black man have WHAT SHE IS TOO SCARED TO OBTAIN OR HAVE FOR HERSELF THAN ANOTHER BLACK WOMAN!!!
These are the sicknesses that we are dealing with on the daily. I know there are so-called music groups out here who will call legends like Mary J. Blige and Whitney Houston (and other black women in our neighborhoods who are recovering) all kinds of bitches and hoes and crackheads and other vile and racist names but will kiss Amy Winehouse's feet and ass in public.
I agree with Roslyn, we should start a formal/offical/unofficial Black Women's Defamation League, like the one that the Jewish people have-although I would say that your blog (and other blogs like it, sorry if I left anyone out) is probably the first of its kind to defend Black women in the face of unrelenting, RACIST hatred and shaming attempts. I can't WAIT to get my blog up and running. You have inspired me Gina! Keep doing what you are doing. CONTINUE TO BE AN ARMY OF ONE!
OBJECTION! NON RESPONSIVE!
Now folks, Jefferson Sergeant got over 24 hours to prepare for my post yesterday. In fact, I called Jefferson Sergeant out on the NPR board and said "We will be addressing this coordinated campaign" So he had a WHOLE day to go back and get his facts together. I mean If somebody told me that I was about to be called a LIBELOUS LIAR, my first inclination would be to go back and get all my facts together to support whatever it is I said. I would go back and be able to say on X day you said Y. On Day A you said B at 11:56PM. I would actually provide the alleged quotations. I mean what this man said about me on the NPR board was pretty inflammatory.
So after I give him all this time to prepare do you think he comes back with any facts to support what he said? The best he can get is a PARAPHRASE. Why does he have to paraphrase? because if he included the entire quote, that would be truthful and thus undermine his attempt to defend his good name. Again, I will claim ANYTHING I say. So since Jefferson can't seem to supply evidence, I will have to do it for him. Oh and Jefferson, this is what I was able to do in about 45 seconds with a Google search, imagine what is going to happen when I actually put my mind to it.
So again, Jefferson Sergeant went all the way over to the News and Notes board to tell them that I called all Black men Damaged Beyond Repair? That is a lie. The reason he can't provide you with evidence that I said this is because I never did.
Jefferson Sergeant said I said that Black women should breed with white men to purify the race on the NPR Board. That is a lie. the reason he can't provie you with evidence that I said that is because I never did.
Y'all noticing a pattern here.... The best he can do is to paraphrase a comment I made then my BG was talking about starting up a new blog.
Clearly he, like Jameela Donalson, didn't realize who he had allied himself with. I think he knew exactly who he was alligning himself with, he just didn't care as long as he could try to destroy me before I ended up on "national television" which he states as one of his fears. hmmm Pharaoh tries to kill baby Moses out of fear of what Moses would become... Y'all remember how that worked out. What he didn't realize was that I was turning down TV offers. Like Moses, I didn't want any part of this blog becoming any bigger. Some of you can remember me basically saying I DON'T WANT THIS! I could see that this thing was bigger than me and I kept saying. I just want a little blog to do X, Y, Z. Go back to my original post on this blog. Look at how small my goals for this blog were. Like Moses who chilled out in the desert, when bushes started burning, I starting coming up with all the reasons why I wasn't meant to take the lead in anything. So while I was content to respond to newspaper reporters in response to things Reginald Hudlin and Jameela Donaldson had said about me. I didn't have any ambition to become the face of any larger movement against BET. I just wanted to give people an example of what COULD happen if they targeted the money that is fueling the images and messages they feel are destructive.
Notice that Jefferson keeps demanding that I name these people so he can get his stuff straight. Well Jefferson you know who these people are because all you have to do is go back to your source material? Oh. What's wrong? You didn't consider your source before you ran around libeling me? You didn't realize you had aligned your self with some pretty psychopathic individuals who were engaged in possible criminal activity as they went after numerous African American female bloggers systematically? You were happy to repeat and even signed up to go out and continue their campaign, but now all of a sudden when your boys full activity starts to come to the light, you want to say "I don't know who you're talking about? I'm not one of them" Oh but you are, because you worked in concert with them, using their language. Now clearly you are a crappy researcher because after an entire day of advanced warning, the best you could come up with is "I'm in."
Jefferson, since you like graphic novels, I am sure you saw the latest installment of the X-men. In the final scene, Magneto and the Phoenix and I think his name is Pyro, Magneto's understudy, are standing on the Golden Gate bridge with an army of mutants. Now in the final fight scene, Magneto is facing an army with a weapon that will basically take away a mutants power. Magneto says something to the affect of "charge" and all these mutants take off from the bridge to fight with the army. Now Pyro, Magneto's understudy, tries to take off with all the other mutants and Magneto literally snatches him back by the scruff of his neck and says something to the effect of "boy sit down. Let these other fools go out there first so we can see the army's defenses. Let them do our dirty work and then we'll move in" He calls them pawns. So we watch as sure enough, the less powerful mutants run out there and get slaughtered while Magneto is chilling on the bridge. Folks clearly Jefferson ain't Magneto.
OOOKay so like I was saying, Jefferson can't source his material, so I went back and did it for him and found the origin of his paraphrasing and saying I said "I'm in". I even included the date stamp. Because AGAIN, I will claim ANYTHING I actually said. y'all can go back and read the full discussion for yourselves. This discussion is following me pointing out what I thought was an erroneous conclusion reached that people who are more intelligent are more likely to survive. The conclusion was part of a discussion of survival of the fittest. I pointed out that the exact opposite is true, especially if you equate intelligence with education (I don't, but level of education was a example for my original point). The statistics say that the more educated a Black woman is, the less likely she is to get married. The more education a Black woman has, the less likely she is to have children outside of marriage. This means that many educated Black women are the end of the line. They can adopt, but they will not pass on their genetic traits to the next generation. I don't typically talk about marriage and children from a purely scientific sense, but that was the context of the thread. Somebody brought up Darwinism, I was pointing out that if you are trying to talk about marriage and relationships in terms of survival, survival means living long enough to pass on your DNA to the next generation. If you don't pass on your DNA, you don't survive in the context of talking about Darwinism. That was the context of my original comment which was posted on my BG's blog. Here is the information, Jefferson should have been able to provide, but couldn't because well, because he has no idea whose dirty work he is doing and THAT makes him not only an IIT, but a stupid on ( Yes, I just said he is not very intelligent. I don't care how many degrees he has on a wall. If he were smart at all he would sit down and hope people forget his role in this. But he ain't too bright and he has an abusive personality so he will continue to return over and over again until he can control our THOUGHTS about HIM.)
Here is what my BG said, and YES, she has her own special way of communicating, but she is NEVER boring, you should go back and read the full post and the full comments thread.
My BG SAID
"I'm going to start a private blog and I want to invite certain people to join the blog--so that we can kick this idea around more as to the steps we are going to have to take to survive at a higher level. Please let me know whether you're interested and why. We're going to have to do this together because we are all we have. After we've brainstormed and come up with "The Plan," (for lack of a better term)we can then present it to the public and those who are interested can critique it then and possibly join us and the rest--be damned! I mean we are at the point that bw are going to have to sh&t or get off the pot!! LOL! Or more and more of us will go down.
Please realize that talking about bm in the private blog will be STRONGLY discouraged to the point that it won't be tolerated. If you aspire to be a FASUM but still have issues with bm, please don't bring them to the private blog. We have simply got to MOVE ON!!
THIS was my reply in its entirety, not the lazy paraphrasing Jefferson is trying to pass off:
"Count me in. The comments and analysis on this blog need to be shared with the wider public. Right now we are preaching to the choir.
It is scary when you think about who is procreating and who is not. What is the world going to look like in 25 years when 70% of black women are unmarried and childless?
I stand by that statement and here is why.
The more education a Black woman receives, the less likely she is to be unmarried and those women are less likely to rent out their wombs and become "baby mamas", this means that the majority of Black women who go out and get a college education or advanced degree are the END OF THE LINE of that branch of the family tree. If you don't have children, you are the end of the line so all of the personality traits and characteristics that you are walking around with die with you. Sure you can do what I plan to do and adopt and through nurturing pass on certain parts of who you are, but what if any traits you carry which might have lead you to achieve in life will die with you. That was the context of that discussion and I am not aware of ANY forum in which this type of discussion about some of the fallout from this 70% unmarried statistic has ever taken place.
Let me add some more things folks have not thought about with this 70% unmarried stat. When we hear about the 70% stat, we think in terms of romance or "I ain't gone find no man!" Marriage to many is about love, but fail to address that it is also about maintaining some kind of civil society. Men play an important role in the family. Quite frankly the men in my family are my protectors and I have no doubt that they will do everything in their power to protect and defend me from all hurt harm or danger. They'll fight, PHYSICALLY, to defend me if the situation ever arose. I grew up in a household where if something went "bump" in the night, you went to get Daddy and Daddy got up with a swiftness. I can't imagine growing up without a Daddy living in the house. I know people turn out just fine, but there are so many little things that Daddies do, other than hand over a check, that people don't acknowledge. But i digress, that is another post altogether.
What are our cities going to look like when we are all in our 40s and 50s living by ourselves? No kids to look after us. No husbands to protect us. Sure, you may have nieces and nephews and maybe some surviving siblings, but you immediate family will be a family of one. Now this will be occurring in a context where probably 80% or so of the teenagers running around will have been raised in a home without a father, in fact, they will likely be raised in entire swaths of cities where an adult male living in a household with these teenagers is less likely than a meteor striking that household. Also remember that if this multiple children by multiple adults that you are not married to trend continues, these teenagers would likely have multiple half siblings running around. The family tree will become a family forest. In other words DRAMA-filled childhoods become the norm. Those of you in a social services field can attest to the absolute carnage that is caused by a drama-filled childhood. And there you are sitting out there with your family of one as all of these folks with drama-filled childhoods reach physical maturity. What I mean is, these teenagers are physically stronger than a 40 or 50 year old Black woman. I see the potential for Dunbar Villages EVERYWHERE! You and your family of one will be a sitting duck. Especially in a society that is raising children to have NO CONTENT IN THEIR CHARACTER! and YES all these single childless Black women will be outnumbered.
But the lack of marriage doesn't just have consequences for Black women, Black men ought to be getting nervous about what is going to happen when their hips give out and they can no longer "kick it" LITERALLY!
Those of you who attend church can attest to some 80 or 90 something women who are widows who look out for each other. One can't drive so the other one drives for her. They check on each other and keep each other company. Make sure that the other one takes her medication. Their husbands are gone they might have even outlived their children, but because women are social, even though their immediate families are now down to one, they form a new "family" of sorts.
So we'll be vulnerable, but socially, we will be okay. Now imagine the fate for older Black men who chose not to get married because Kicking IT was too much fun. Statistics say he is likely to be "sicker" than we are. So who is going to make sure he takes his high blood pressure medication? Or goes to get his prostate checked? Who is going to care for him after that massive stroke? We all know people in this situation and typically, the wife is the one doing this, but he won't have a WIFE because he was kicking it. He might have had girlfriends, but unlike a wife, even in the age of divorce, a wife typically feels some moral obligation to stick around. I mean the preacher did say "in sickness and in health." In fact, society is more likely to judge a wife or husband that abandons a sick spouse rather harshly so there are some built in "pressures" to make sure folks stick around "through sickness and health." In addition these men are going to have a group of children that will probably have all kinds of sibling rivalry issues because they were all raised by different baby mamas in different households. Can y'all imagine the James Brown situation played out all over the country. Black men chilling in the funeral home while the kids fight over the body. This typically doesn't happen with women because all of a woman's children are raised in the same household so even if they have different baby daddies, they have a relationship with their half siblings because they were raised by the same mother in the same household. Men on the other hand when they have different children by different women end up with children that are NOT raised in the same household. These kids are relative strangers because even if they get together on visitation weekends, they don't have the same connection as someone who grew up in the same house. In fact, because the various babies mamas may hate each other's guts, these children may view their half siblings growing up in different households may view each other as the enemy. So the first and only time these folks will come together is at Daddy's funeral. If you ain't ever been to a funeral with a man who had more than one "family" ( Very common with divorced men), it is an experience. Nothing like going to a funeral of a man with more than one set of kids. DRAMA. What a sad end to your life.
So yeah, I think we need to think about the consequences of this whole 70% unmarried statistic. because it isn't just about romance and companionship. Marriage plays a very important role in stabilizing society. I stand by my statement. Um so Jefferson nice try, what else you got?
You said I said stuff in writing on the internet. Prove it! It ain't that hard.
This is sorta of example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAYnc_-ddlw
if the this address gets cut off in post
http://tinyurl.com/28pqng
Yall have GOT to watch the video Janice has provided a link to.
that video is HILARIOUS!
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OMG, I have just spent the last like 40 minutes or so watching clips of the entire movie Idocracy. It is where Janice got her clip from.
I am dying here. Y'all especially need to watch part 6 with the President of the United States and the House of Representatives. I definitely and adding this to my DVD collection if I can find it.
I will start with this. You mentioned that I joined the Hudlin Entertainment forum as a means of "calculated plotting". When I pointed out that I had been a member there years before your notoriety, (as is confirmed by "digital footsteps") you conveniently skip this part.
So someone such as yourself who is quite bright and an attorney made accusations(twice now) about my stalking and plotting and its been a flop. Maybe your great research abilities failed to see the date of membership which is readily available.
To the more substantive issue at hand, namely your endorsement of your "BG'S" ideology there are several points. One, I didn't have to search out the statement in its enitreity because you already provided links to them. Remember the part where you provided links to the forum? Your statement in its complete context is there. A bright individual would know what they linked to.
Second, your qualifying the statement now doesn't change the context of your prior affirmation. When one co-signs there is no need to repeat the statement of which they are agreeing to. Therefore, you don't need to write out your "BG's" rhetoric in order to prove your affirmation of it for a second time.
Lastly, your bringing up a straw man as I never stated that you said these things in writing. What is clear to any reasonable person is that you endorse the statements by your affirming them. Who else would read the exchange "in its entireity" and not reach that conclusion?
You use my name as the embodiment of Ike Turners, and on top of that throw down a gauntlet to respond " battle to end all battles". When I do respond it's a form of abuse and mind control?
You are almost ubiquitous in posting on the net whenever your name is mentioned. Would that be an attempt at mind-control as well?
Since naming the two "masterminds' is too difficult, could you post the myriad comments of fellow Ike Turners directed at you? Again, leave mine up but post those of other cabal members. Again, to make clear, you can leave the 2 leaders out.
You likened this to the limo scene in the movie and right now you are just looking out the window. Where is all the action you promised Tina? You can do it 5, 6 7 8 ....
I understand what you are writing about and feel bad for people who don't "get it." It's only some stranger. They will never be able to actually hurt you. They're words - get over it. Words are a powerful indicator of what's in a person's heart, what is their very essence. BELIEVE that if someone has a burning need to flame you, follow you from site to site just to critize you, makes demands of you, proceeds to send you hateful/ hurtful emails (outside your blog), and/or threatens your FAMILY, that person is an ABUSER in real life as well. I think a troll is someone who talks smack to derail a thread - because the internet is "anonymous" - and then goes away. An ABUSER goes to extraordinary lengths to BEAT someone into submission - whether it's a physical beating or not...
Last month MSNBC had an article on high-tech abuse: http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/08/leah-lived-for-.html.
I wrote about abusers in general on my blog: http://meditationsonreeducation.blogspot.com/2007/09/would-you-know-abusive-relationship-if.html.
Hi there. I have a unique position, but i'm not sure how I can help bw from my position. Any ideas?
I am so glad I got told about your blog!
Gina, thanks for all that you do on behalf of black women worldwide. Yours has been and is a powerful voice and catalyst for change. I'm sorry that you are going through this trial with these selfish hateful individuals - but that only proves one thing - you are effective and the enemy has taken notice.
These guys suffer from what I call the "Adam Syndrome" - it's not my fault Lord, it's the fault of this woman that You gave me. They are never responsible for their own actions; the evil black woman is always doing something to victimize them, including making them strike her. Nothing is ever their fault.
Folks,
Note that Jefferson has yet to provide a single quote addressing what he said I said on the NPR message board. Still waiting Jefferson.
OH and look Jefferson is apparently upset because his name is out there as an IIT, well Jefferson, YOU were the one that took it upon yourself to roll on over to the NPR Board and say I was a Black Eugenist and had said that I wanted to purify the race by having Black women "breed" with white men. Unlike you, I have not said that you said anything you didn't say.
Now Jefferson, Unless you hang out on my BGs blog, you had to get your erroneous information from somewhere. Why don't you start there and work backwards.
You see what Jameela and the folks at the Hudlin board didn't understand at the time is that the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. In their haste to tear me town, they didn't consider the source of the information that they were only too happy to repeat and repeat and repeat. Notice the when Jefferson when on the NPR board, he didn't address a SINGLE thing I talked about during the 15 minute segment.
All Jefferson wanted to do was to make sure Gina's name got smeared. Well it did. ONE TIME TOO MANY.
Now Jefferson if you didn't say what I posted, then let me know and I will take your name down. I'd appreciate it if you do the same.
And did y'all notice how he is now backtracking? On the NPR board and the Hudlin board he said that I said particular things now he is saying that I cosigned things. Both are false, but because he knows he can't prove I said the things he has stated, he is grasping at straws.
Oh and Jefferson, don't worry about being left out there. There coming. They can't resist the attention. Well they are about to get a WHOLE BUNCH more than they could have ever imagined.
I meant to say "They're coming", my brain is faster than my keystrokes.
@Gina - g-e-m2001
September 16, 2007 6:25 AM
I was always sorta "yeah yeah okay" I know about the 70% stat regarding (educated) black women. The high non-marriage rate also applies to non-black women with high IQs. When you tied that social situation to old women at church, and the Dunbar Village incident, a chill went down my spine.
You are right, marriage is what creates a civil society. There have been some movements in this country to dismantle marriage (as we know it). It started with the black family. I wonder if they like the results of their experiment. In Europe, some countries barely have marriage anymore.
Isn't internet stalking against any Federal laws or something? I thought the FBI was capable of tracing this stuff. There has to be software somewhere to see who's responsible.
I like your blog: factual, witty, and hella effective.
ANNOUNCEMENT
1. Due to the typical techniques utilized by the IITs, Anon comments will receive extra special scrutiny in this particular thread. Therefore, if it is worth saying, it is worth attaching your name or nickname to it.
2. I really don't care if you don't like the content on my BG's site. Neither does she. I don't care if you are shocked or speechless, I already warned you that she offers HER unvarnished opinion and even hurt my feelings at one point. So if you have issues with HER content, take them up with her. My BG can and will defend herself.
3. Again, If my linking to or participating in discussions on my BG's blog offends you, again, don't care either. It was nice having you as a reader, I wish you well. if you can't distinguish between two different bloggers on two different sites with two different subject matters. Again, not my problem.
4. If you are hunting for a Black Male Self Esteem Rehabilitation because you feel something I or my BG has said has caused you emotional distress, again, this ain't a great thread to go searching for that. A group of men is trying to terrorize a group of women, Your feelings being hurt by something she or I said ain't a priority right now and will not be dealt with in this thread. Go over to the Hudlin Entertainment Board for Succor and Comfort. They're waiting to embrace new members into the WAOD Disgruntled Readers Association.
So again, if its good enough to make you write a comment, put your name on it. You will notice that EVERY woman that has posted in this thread has not only listed her name, but is a registered blogger user. Be MAN enough to claim what you say because I am woman enough to claim everything I put out into the world.
If this ANNOUNCEMENT hurts or offends you, Again I don't care. If you haven't figured out that this right here is a serious matter , then please step aside, grown folks are taking care of some long overdue business. We don't have time to coddle and comfort your right now. Try back next week!
I found your blog about a month ago when I was looking for black women's opinions about Oprah. I stumbled on a bunch of blogs by black women in which I bookmarked.
I was so happy to read the BW blogs and get different opinions and takes on things (I have been reading blogs for about six months but none that resonated quite like BW blogs). When I read your blog and others like it I thought it was so very radical and aligned with my thought processes that I was hooked. Subsequently, I have found other BW blogs and I have been so very addicted because BW opinion and or ideas are frequently diminished.
I have bookmarked so many BW blogs. I don't always agree with some BW blogs but I have learned so much because of their different perspectives on an issue. BW BG has empowered me to a new level and I have become very fired up as well as truly informed.
When I started initially reading BW blogs I was very concerned for you all's safety due to the candor on critical issues that BW face in the media as well as so many areas. I have actually thought about how to post my information because certain ignorant individuals don't like BW to have opinions its like we are thought of just as a stereotype: a mammy, nymphomaniac, ignorant welfare stealing, baby making, loud talking, fat, concubine and always angry phoneme.
I have recently started putting my two cents in and loving it. I am very sorry that the Internet Ike Turners are trying to discredit, distract and intimate BW BG. I agree with Ms. Weems in that there is a larger issue of intimidation of women's bloggers in general.
However, if is very primeval, and accepted to berate and belittle BW.
I think is liberating and validating not to keep silent about this terrorizing behavior by Internet Ike Turners. Although, I don't have a blog I believe its therapeutic to let others know what you BW BG are dealing with so we support you all, feel your pain as we BW & BM stand together support one another and uncover the nonsense by sharing the knowledge to excavate and bring to justice each and every Internet Ike Turner and Turneretts.
Roslyn I am so sorry you have had to deal with being harassed. It is really a shame. Thanks for having the courage to share.
It is not just black women they hate....it is powerful women. Women who are brave and courageous.
Women bloggers all over are being assaulted in the blogosphere!
Kathy Sierra....anyone!
She stopped her blog....after she received threatening images and comments. Scared her! Posted death threats about her and then posted her home addres on there blog! That is what some of these male bloggers...will do...they will do anything to silence strong women!
There is so much hate for women out there y'all!
This is why I love WAOD! It gives black women a new voice.
I believe in the fight for all women! I believe that when women are safe men will be to.
We must stop funding foolishness as gem has stated over and over
over and over again. When are we going to get it!
Any man who has a daughter needs to get it! You can't say I don't condone that and then laugh at obvious derogatory sexist joke. It doesn't work. Some Men, who love their daughters, don't realize
that they help reproduce a culture 'that ain't got not love' for their daughters.
People say well daughters are harder to raise.....well of course they are! We have to worry about how the other 50% or is it 48% of the world's population is going to treat our daughters.
We are so concerned about protecting our daughter, which is good no doubt, but we don't like asking the tough questions. Who and what are we protecting our daughters from?
Why don't we address the issue....raise our sons with dignity and respect for self and others. Oh I am sorry, I forgot some people believe this making boys in to girls.
Other men have caught on to this idea like Ted Bund ( A call to Men), Byron Hurt (Beyond beats and Rhymes)and Jackson Katz.
I say all this to say there is a climate of hate agains any women is strong even in the blogosphere.
Gem you gotta be prepare like others have said on here. You have a lot of support out here and we will have your back on this " I wanna be like Ike" via blogs.