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XXL Magazine calls Dunbar Village Victim "some hooker down in Florida"

UPDATE: More gruesome details regarding the Dunbar Village gang rape came out in court today. Read more here. and six of these bastards are still running around.

Welcome XXL Readers Despite the fact that our efforts related to THAT SHOW haven't been posted about on this blog for almost a month and we've moved on from a certain D-List comedian. Folks are still writing about it and apparently they have been on vacation since May or something. Now, in an effort to attack me and this blog (like I care), this XXL writer has called the Dunbar Village victim a "Hooker"

She’s also been involved with the protests against rap music that have stemmed from the Don Imus incident as well as the protests against the comedian DL Hughley, who had the sheer balls to suggest that the Rutgers University women’s basketball team were some of the ugliest women he’d ever seen in his life. That fucking racist. Based on a cursory perusal of her blog, it looks her latest mission involves protesting media outlets that haven’t devoted enough coverage to the gang rape of a black woman by about 20 black men somewhere down in Florida.

I don’t know about the rest of you fruits, but I hope she’s successful in this effort. Raping a woman is just wrong, and I thought she brought up a good point in comparing the media coverage of this incident to the coverage of the execution-style killings of four college students in New Jersey. What’s worse, that some hooker down in Florida is out $300, or that four college students in New Jersey are no longer living? If you answered the latter, I wonder about your solidarity with the black race (read a black woman’s ego). (SOURCE)


First, I never compared the media coverage of the Newark murders to the media coverage of Dunbar Village. I applauded the actions of Mayor Corey Booker and Governor James Corzine when compared to West Palm Beach Mayor Lois Frankel and Governor Charlie Crist. I was just as saddened and horrified and have talked about the lack of attention by civil rights organization to violent crimes against Black people.

Second, hate on me all you want, but this woman in Dunbar Village was not a hooker. She was a 35 year old single mother who was selling Avon and delivering phone books to pay the rent when ten Black males invaded her home and gang raped her for three hours and beat her son. While the mother and son were screaming, her neighbors didn't bother to call the police. The attackers forced this mother to perform oral sex on her 12 year-old son and then poured cleaning solution on them as they laid naked in the tub, blinding the son and burning the mother's skin. This woman was not a hooker and you are going to BURN IN HELL for referring to her as one in an attempt to attack me. You can read about this horrible crime here. Yeah, they really hate us that they can't have compassion for what happened to this woman.

Again, I have never called for an apology from DL. I haven't tried to shut down any of his shows. All I have ever said is that I respectfully disagree and that his First Amendment defense of his foolishness.

I will not apologize for standing up and saying that the days of using African American women as sacrificial lambs should be over. This isn't about censorship, this is about a) pushing back against images and messages that have gone unchallenged for too long and b) refusing to subsidize things that demean and degrade Black women.

DL and his Hip Hop brethren have the right to say whatever vile and disgusting things they want, I just don't want to have to pay for it by purchasing the goos and services of companies who do.

I don't even have the heart today to respond to the fact that this bastard called the Dunbar Village victim a "hooker." Wow. I thought folks were exaggerating and being melodramatic, but some folks REALLY have an enduring hatred of Black women. It is just always shocking to see it in print.

I don’t expect Harris Publications(Phone: 212-807-7100), publisher of XXL to be compassionate or be a good corporate citizen or not hate and despise Black women, their business model does not allow it, but they could at least try to be accurate about a vicious hate crime.

All I ask is that their editors review the known facts related to the Dunbar Village gang rape and determine whether it is appropriate for one of their columnists to refer to this 35 year-old single mother who was raped and sodomized for three hours by ten men and boys while they beat her child and later forced her to perform a sex act on her 12 year old son as “some hooker down in Florida.”

Reader Comments (56)

Are we certain that they were referring to Dunbar? I ask because my brain is (at the moment) locked and unable to register the fact that such a sick statement could have been made regarding Dunbar Village.

That statement is abominable, even by the bottom dwelling standards of Black hip hop culture.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterThe Angry Independent

Go read the full article. It is clear that he is comparing Dunbar Village to Newark. he thinks that this is a trick gone bad.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

He clearly didn't research the cirme before he posted. he was too intent on telling me and my readers to "suck it".

These idiots are self destructing in front of our own eyes. They are so far off the mainstream that they don't realize that they have completely step beyond being out of bounds.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

Never mind Gina....

I just read the whole thing again (i'm half asleep).

Like I always say... you really can't put anything past these folks. There is no limit to the depths that they are willing to dig.

And people wonder why I hate Black pop culture....

Who is the editor of this thug magazine?

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterThe Angry Independent

It is published by Harris Communications. Can you do me a favor because I don't thin kI can handle this shit right now. This is worse than probably anything I have had to deal with, but can you contact other Black bloggers and see if one of them can take up the cause of contacting Harris Communications this week. I just can't deal with this EVIL at this particular moment. This needs to be dealt with across the board.

"Harris Publications Columnist calls Dunbar Village gang rape victim " some hooker down in Florida" is a pretty accurate post title.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

Whoever this guy is it's pretty obvious that he hates black women. It cannot come as a surprise to any of us that there is a deep and abiding hatred of black women in the world. The haters are more brazen than the Klan ever dared to be. Articles like this are the moral equivalent to burning a cross on someone's lawn. It was meant to intimidate you to try to keep you from doing what you are doing. Don't let them upset you like this. You have obviously struck a nerve with that crowd. What you are doing is positive and right.
I am so proud of you.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

I don't mind the attacks on me. I can take those, but for him to refer to this woman as "some hooker down in Florida" it is probably what those ten men and boys were thinking when they raped and sodomized her for 3 hours. Because she is a Black woman she isn't human. She isn't shyt. When you have it in print, concrete proof of the level of hatred, it is like seeing a cross burning on your yard. Its a stark reminder that someone hates you just because YOU ARE. That is never fun.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

Well, the bad thing is... they aren't too far out of the mainstream. If they were, their magazines wouldn't sell.

Unfortunately, there are plenty of fools willing to buy their magazine...and plenty of companies willing to pay for advertising.

I think the current generation may be lost and probably can't be recovered. I'm talking about ages 17 or so on up to 25.

This is why efforts have to be focused on younger kids....and their parents. Someone has to break the cycle...and it will have to be parents getting back to certain core values. Only then will folks stop buying this stuff.
What we are seeing now is the earlier Hip Hop Generation (folks our age) who are now parents and they are into the Hip Hop/thug culture just as much (and sometimes more) than their children are. This is a serious problem...and an obstacle to any effort to clean up this mess.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterThe Angry Independent

AI,

I don't know if we have the time to save the next, next generation. If this attitude is rampant through even a small portion of the population, you can expect wholesale gang attacks on single Black women. Look at the numbers 70% of us will not have the protection of a man in the home in about 15 years. Take that fact and collide it with the fact that about three generations of Black men have been raised to believe that "bitches ain't nothing but hoes and tricks" That is a horrific combination.

Well at least he showed himself.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

I'm sorry I went to XXL and read that "article" (and the comments.)
Absolutely disgusting and vile.

But we are not going to shut up and go away.

Keep it Rocking !!!!!!!

pinkyd

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterpinkydj

We do it to ourselves. We are the biggest threat to our race. For him to allow the word hooker, to come out of his mouth...I am at a lose for words. I admire everything you do Gina, and I stand behind you. Thanks

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterWeDoItToOurselves

It just goes to show that black men like this guy really do think its all about them. That black women are a prop for sex or making them look good in front of their boys...and I do mean boys.

Its funny black women who demand respect, responsibility and some sense of morals are man haters. No, we're jackass haters.

An ignorant ass like this can't be rehabilitated. He needs to be castrated and have his tongue cut out so he wont spread his bullsh*t.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSymphony

Guys like that cannot be redeemed. We need to just wash our hands of people like that. They are not my brothers. With every breath they take, they speak death to the black woman and ultimately to the entire black race.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

The title alone was so obvious and disrespectful. As a black women and a mothers, it seems he want's us to take it that personal.

I never felt you was comparing the two crimes. However, I have always held this particular type rape crime as a sentence far worse than death (with respect for those dearly departed). I am not afraid to say it, because I too am a mother either way and a woman with living feelings. However, this lack of compassion only proves how some people and this particular black man purposely dismiss the physical and forever emotional damage of living people with feelings, both mother and son. Make it worse she's a black woman. I doubt he even cares about the four students or their families, he's just trying to interpret this as death vs "hooker" as leverage to be spiteful and hateful towards a black women.

Based on the contents of his article, he might as well admit he holds the same head as those very rapist. Yes, I went there. He seems to be very defensive. As someone said, he clearly hates black women. He also admits to being sexist, but I think it's an understatement to say the least. Many of the comments above are also right on target.

My prayers go out to everyone!

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLa ~ msviswan

Sorry for the typos. Sometimes I write how I speak when I'm angry.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLa ~ msviswan

It's horrible that this moron attacked the rape victim in Florida by calling her a hooker in order to attack you.
He should have just attacked your actions in undermining black people's right to watch whatever TV shows they want to watch and leave it that. But being a misogynist pig, he was just showing his true colors by trying to shoot two birds with one bad blog posting.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterbrotherkomrade

Wow. That's all I can say. I'm not usually a violent guy, but the writer of that article needs to get his ass kicked for referring to that lady as a hooker.

August 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

Thats gangsta thug culture. For them the word "woman" is the synonymous for "ho", "hooker", and "bitch". They don't even know there is a difference. The next time someone like Snoop Dog tries saying that there is a difference between women and hos we can tell him about this perfect example. In one article the guy insults two women by calling them things that usually gets men into a fight or even killed by other males. The losers in the comments section didn't even notice or care about that. Its a disgrace and this is what the gangsta rap apologists are trying to defend.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBronze Trinity

"Similarly, you have to wonder how much of a detrimental effect one ignorant beeyotch like Gina McCauley can have on the state of black entertainment."

I am one opinionated sister, and I am at a complete loss. I just read the article, and am floored by the vitriol that Gina inspired in this "man." To be fair, I think any Black woman outside of a thong in a video would raise his ire, but damn.

In this case, I would not have a problem with shooting the messenger-he's just that stupid. But,unfortunately,the message that reverberates through the culture-that Black women are nothing-is strong. I fear for my daughter.

Anyway, I'll spend the day thinking seriously about what I can offer to this struggle, and I do want to thank Gina for this blog and her courage. You make me proud.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered Commenternewgirl448

"If black women want men to like them, and obviously that’s what this is really all about, this is definitely not the way to go about it."

This guy doesn't get it. He. Does. Not. Get. It. Trying to get respect for a woman out of him is like trying to find integrity in a Bush cabinet member.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

I wish that everyone who attacks Gina for her efforts at stopping garbage like whatever the name of that horrid show was and that not - funny comedian will just take a few moments to study the jewish holocaust and how media played a role in the hideous final solution. Then they wouldn't be so quick to dismiss and denounce her efforts against BET and others who show contempt for black people in their programming.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

This guy from XXX whatever - is a true moron. One has to wonder if the rape happened to one of his family members would he say the same thing? Probably so, because he is a moron with no character. He is a true moron in every sense of the word.

Sis, you keep on doing what you do. We will continue to support you.

AAPP

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAAPP

That XXL guy deserves to be handled in proper Marine Corps fashion.

He exemplifies why this whole gangsta ghetto thug pimp culture needs to be shut down.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDJ Black Adam

I just re-read that fools article. He is a vile bottom feeding miscreant. The fact that he said that a woman who was raped and forced to perform oral sex on her own son is “out $300.00” is a prime example why he and the culture he represents (that culture being misogynistic arseholes) needs to be shut down.

He is quite lucky “What about our Daughters” only want’s you to stop spreading your hate, I would have that he be summarily executed for being an embarrassment to Black Men.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDJ Black Adam

Please refresh my memory. Were Black activists responsible for removing That's So Raven, Teen Summit, BET Tonight with Ed Gordon, Sister Sister, Cosby, Hagin With Mr. Cooper, Living Single or A Different World from the network line-up?????

Is this guy an actual Journalist???? WTH?????

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAttorneymom

Even if the women was a hooker does she deserve to be gangraped?

When you hear what some people have to say, it makes you wonder how civilisation passed them by.

what kind of rock crevise were they stuck inside when progressive thought was infiltrating general discourse!

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

Sigh.

SMH.

I think I'm sending my daughter and sisters to a matchmaker when they get older. Do it real old school 'cause lord knows I let them out there on their own no telling what will happen.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

The victim in Dunbar Village is (for now) an easy target to insult.

He's mad that black women are being defended.

An abuser gets angry when his favorite target is being moved out of reach.

I mean, without us to kick down and insult, who would be left?

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGoldenAh

Okay, did he refer to the Dunbar victim as a hooker???? WT__????

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAttorneymom

Darn, I just read the Article regarding the update on the Dunbar Village Rape. I am sick to my stomach. The reason I am sick is because there are other rapists, killers and demons roaming the streets. Who will be next???

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAttorneymom

I understand the outrage but this pond scum eating dirtbag at XXL really doesn't deserve the attention. Reading the comments (well, the first few) in the original article confirmed that these kind of people are socially retarded thumbsuckers who couldn't get a date with anyone over the age of 13 if their lives depended on it. The sad part is that they wouldn't consider anyone over 13 anyway because anyone older could outhink them.

Is there some way to have these guys tested and instiutionalized before they hurt themselves trying to think, walk, and chew gum at the same time?

All they've done is confirm that black pop culture is for backward under achievers who still live at home with mama.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

This post is gonna be long...but it's heartfelt and genuine, and I had to speak on it, so hear me out:

Bol Crawford is indeed a deplorable 'shock value' type of blogger who obviously has some deep-seated issues with Black women (and his race in general...you get the feeling from reading his posts that he'd actually be happier if he was born white). We are definitely in agreement there.

But please, I'm begging you all, DO NOT associate this guy with the hip-hop culture...I know this sounds silly, being that this guy's a blogger for hip-hop music's biggest magazine, but trust me, he and his distorted views DO NOT represent the majority of hip-hop's fans, bloggers or (believe it or not) artists.

Don't let the fact that he's blogging for XXL throw you...that just means that some money-grubbing corporate suits that don't have hip-hop's best interest at heart have sold out the culture (and Black women) by allowing this chauvinistic guy who secretly doesn't even like hip-hop to loosely rant, for the sake of a few lousy hits and more ad revenue.

Now, please, DO NOT misunderstand me, there are certainly distasteful aspects of hip-hop (just like every other genre, culture or generation) that cannot be explained away simply by the environment's influence or 'artistic expression.' There's definitely been moments where as a hip-hop fan, I've cringed in embarrassment. Some artists definitely have to answer for the sexism in their music.

Here's where my problem lies: most of the music actually DOESN'T REPRESENT that image. The caricature of a 40 oz.-guzzling, crotch-grabbing, ho-slapping gangsta hasn't been prevalent in quite some time, and it wasn't the majority when it was. Don't be fooled by BET and radio and these soulless corporations. Just cuz they pander to the LCD and only focus on the same five or 10 acts, that doesn't mean you should impugn an entire culture as 'idiots' and animals. And if you're gonna be that extreme, please cite some different examples, i.e. other than BET Uncut, 'Tip Drill,' Snoop and the ladies on the chains, etc.

And I don't want this to be misconstrued as an attack on Black women or a blind defense of the culture. Like I said, it definitely has its issues to deal with, and I'm not against holding a mirror up to that culture. But what I am against is people like Don Imus with their own agenda to push, who are out to destroy the culture, not better it.

Quite honestly, I'm sad. Sad that dogs like Imus can spout off racist and sexist tripe and skirt the issue by turning us against each other with weak and flimsy arguments (BTW Black women: if you wanna let Imus off that easily and not hold him accountable, just because hip-hop is a bigger fish, fine. But don't be surprised when more like him begin bandying about such terms as 'nappy headed hoes.').

I'm sad that what ultimately amounts to a generational gap, is driving a wedge between older folks and the hip-hop generation - to the point where folks who aren't fans of the music or can't relate (and you know who you are) are willing to lump all of it together and take ill-informed swipes based on the rants and raves of a few others.

And most of all, I'm sad that Black women feel so alienated by this culture, when the culture - under its swagger and bravado - has SO MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT for them. I ain't talking about the lustful odes to scantily clad women in clubs and strip joints, either. RadioOne and BET may not let you see, but the culture has a heart. You can't convince me otherwise. (BTW even though hip-hop was under attack at the time, why was it that only artists from that genre came out in defense of the Rutgers ladies?) Ladies, I understand and empathize with your frustration and hurt, but your anger seems at least partly misguided.

I'm a 28-year-old Black (and, for what it's worth, college-educated) man, and I'm essentially forced to choose between Black women (whom I absolutely LOVE TO DEATH) and who I am. Cuz hip-hop is me...from listening to Bambaataa and backspinning on cardboard in my kitchen, to the way I speak and act and dress, it's WHO I AM, and I'm unapologetic for that. In fact, I'm proud to say that I'm a product of the hip-hop generation.

You wanna take some unsavory types from that culture to task? Be my guest. I can do without 'Superman that ho' and Bol Crawford as much as you can. But specifically call out those artists (or more accurately, those executives who green-light these projects). Don't paint the entire culture with one broad stroke, cuz the majority of the culture (dare I say) LOVES YOU, LADIES.

And for the record, disparaging the victims in Florida for the sake of ruffling a few feathers and increasing your hit count? Low, Bol, even for you.

Just my opinion, so I'm open to feedback (no hiding behind 'anonymous'): hiphop93@yahoo.com

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

I read this fool's article and just couldn't believe it. First of all, he told off on himself with his motives. By calling Gina a "beeyotch" and then recounting how his own article about Ray J a few years back got his site removed, he showed that he is a sensationalist. He can see that the media attention this blog has received already, along with the current readership, will almost surely bring his little article a little attention. He insulted her because he WANTED her to write about what he wrote. He, like DL, is trying to raise HIS profile by insulting/disrespecting a black woman.

Personally, I wouldn't even do him or that mag a favor by giving them any more space/attention that what they've already gotten. I wouldn't bother helping raise this idiot's profile, so he can go get a job at a major mag like Rolling Stone or something.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterHeavenly Zeta

The sad thing is that, even if this woman was a hooker, some people in the community think it's OK to assault her AND HER CHILD. She is a woman. A Black woman and she shouldn't be treated like a dog... oops, if she were a dog, more people would be outraged.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterUrban Sista

Evidently you are doing something right, dead right. That piece from then was nothing but hate and petty. All the time and effort spent attacking you they could be doing something more constructed.

It is easier said than done but please try to ignore the haters. I see the silver lining in this, I see how you are able to shine attention on worthy causes such as the media invisibility concerning what happened in Dunbar village and apparently it makes others nervous. Let them be nervous, that is not your problem. What about our daughters is right!

Keep on doing what you are doing!

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKitty Glendower

Angry Independent,
While the face of American Hip-Hop is largely black the publication, distribution, and base messages are not. Hip-Hop "culture" like the WWE (wrestling) is devoid of moral conscious. Nevertheless, it is important that I do not use inflammatory rhetoric such as white wrestle-mania culture. You would benefit from choosing never to associate racial groups with "bottom dwelling standards" again.

All,
This story is as despicable as the http://theunitedfakesofamerica.blogspot.com/2007/08/blidget-promo-badge.html" REL="nofollow">Jena 6 though for obviously different reasons. We must join the black women of the blogs represented on this page in order to stop this madness.

World society is quickly receding to the level of Noah's day.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharles Rey

This may sound strange but...I am actually happy that he said this.

Hip-hop has been able to hide behind word games and shenanigans for so long. I'm so happy that he, Snoop and others who have lied are coming out of the closet.

I hope he writes more articles (not against the maker of this website) but just to show how destructive this "culture" really is.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered Commentermekare

On a humor note:

I did a little research on this guy, and it's not pretty. He's known to more than ruffle feathers and seek out this type of attention. It's also official, he does in fact hate black women, he has said it himself. Nothing new.

Apart from this obsession with our blog host, and the amount of unbelievable hatred he's created for himself all over... it's no way he can feel good about himself. NO way!

Well, I can't say I didn't get a good laugh at his expense either way. Unbelievable, and I thought he was crude, LOL

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLa ~ msviswan

"It is easier said than done but please try to ignore the haters."

I'm glad she post it. This guy is a nobody and even the same people that patronize him don’t respect him. However, sometimes it's good they show their ignorance. This entire misogyny culture and generational damage through certain music is finally coming to light.

Most of all, the world is now seeing how WE standinig for ourselves and not accepting it. That to me is worth more than most realize. This is why certain people are holding on to it because that's all they have going for their worthless being. They will try all means to silence, but we will never let them. I'm glad it's all coming out one way or the other.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLa ~ msviswan

knockoutchick says:

XXL magazine has given this clown, Bol, a forum to write misogynistic rants for quite some time.

He has a deep seated hatred of black women.

I agree with Mekare...just us saying it is not as powerful as reading his words on the screen.

He wears his illness stamped on his forehead.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

knockoutchick says:

If Bol wrote the same kind of insulting posts about Jewish women, Lation women, etc...would he still be on the payroll???

Ask yourself that...

We allow it!

She asks the brilliant question. Why should we support those who degrade us?

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

I think that the XXL writer should pay a price for his comments. Because we have it twisted if we are ready to blast Imus, but this guy gets any kind of pass. There is not a difference. And if nothing else, we ought to make some noise at his publishers too. To that end, I'm going to call Harris Publications and register a complaint. I'm also going to fax a complaint to them as well. Below is their corporate information for anyone else who would like to also let them know that the days of attacking black women in the media for profit are numbered.

Harris Publications, Inc.
1115 Broadway
New York, NY 10010-3450
NY Tel. 212-807-7100
Fax 212-924-2352

Aaron

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAaron & Alaine

Gina -

You have truly arrived! You are being targeted by two of the biggest black woman-hating black male bloggers on the internet. They both specialize in these kinds of attacks to bring attention to their rants. They are like low-rent black male Ann Coulters without the ivy league education.

I have come across their
personal blog attacks on everything black and female while doing research for my hip hop class. Their comments are ALWAYS over-the-top, poorly researched, highly generalized, and specializing in being extremely derogatory towards black women. It's how they make a living. They are shock bloggers and are more than willing to sell black women down the river to make a dollar. Sounds a lot like Da Lil'
Huckster - our favorite comedian!

Your fake interviewer - (jimi with a small j)has written for AOL Black Voices and Africana.com. He has attacked Jasmine Cannick and Danyel Smith of Vibe. He does a lot of name calling and self-righteous self-promotion and very little else.

As for boil - excuse me bol - he is a lost cause. He's just a nasty piece of work and a complete sell-out. He actually HATES hip hop, but he will take XXL's hip hop paycheck. I am not sure that you will get much in terms of contacting the XXL publishers. They are fully aware of this guy's blogging style. He is not a serious journalist, he is opinion i.e. OP ED. columnist. Which means that XXL will take no action against his sexist rants.

I don't believe the effort or the cause should be wasted on these guys. I am learning to read between the personal attacks and see the REAL message. Neither one of these rants contributed ANY positive to BETTERING the lives of African Americans - male or female. They only contributed to increasing the gender divide between black men and women and quite frankly, helping make the point that black people are in deep trouble.

As a history professor I remind you and all the ladies fighting the good fight to remember that during slavery - Harriet Tubman had to push black folk to freedom with a PISTOL in one hand and a BIBLE in the other!!!

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTracey

Forget Harris Publications. They know exactly what they are doing. They are doing it well to the Tune of 20 Million Dollars a year. Talking with Harris Publications is futile. It is time to have power speak to power.

August 22, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterg-e-m2001

Also hit up the companies who purchase add space on his website WWW.Byroncrawford.com.

August 23, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterfrancis

Just in case you're interested in seeing what Crawford looks like, here's an interview he gave on the web a few months ago.

http://theparkerreport.com/

August 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAverage Bro Is....

Charles Rey,

Comparing WWE's relationship with Whites and Hip Hop's relationship with Black America just doesn't work. The impacts are not even close to being in the same ballpark. The WWE is not destroying White America, not even marginally. And if it was, White folks would have shut it down a long time ago.

No matter how you slice it... Hip Hop has become Black Americas face to the rest of the Country and to the world in general, and it's particularly the face for Black youth. The fact that more Whites buy the music, and Whites buy the magazines, and more Whites buy the advertising that supports it, doesn't change the face on the cover- (the package of whatever Hip Hop product is being marketed). It's usually a Black face.

Now I am not saying that this is the legitimate image of Black people... it is obviously not. However, the Rap world has hijacked the wider Black pop culture....polluting it in the process. This has been the case for the last 17+ years, when Rap became interwoven with the gang culture of Los Angeles.

I don't have to associate a race of people with bottom dwelling standards... Rappers & the Rap sub-culture already have that job covered...and they are doing a damn good job as a matter of fact. That's why we're here. That's why I have been writing, & expressing my displeasure about this situation for a long time now, and (as long as Black folks keep buying the poison and until there is a real revolt against it from within the so-called "Black Community") I will continue to write about it.

August 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterThe Angry Independent

Can anyone explain to me why black women did/do not feel a need to defend themselves and their honour in the face of unrelenting, soul shattering attacks from bm till now.

i think it is critically important that we explore and understand why we have been reluctatant!

August 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous

I dont know Anon but I still know there are too many black women who still aren't speaking even though they claim to be outraged. Probably some who comment on this blog.

Black people, especially black women, have to deal with people making them feel like whiners and self-proclaimed victims when they speak out. I refuse to fall for that garbage.

We're the only group though. Jewish groups, capitalists, NRA, unions, evangelical Christians they all speak out and demand something in return for their dollars and votes. They are being smart and playing the political and market games.

Not us, we're supposed to not rock the boat. Especially black women because are supposed to sacrifice, please and care for everyone else.

Only the silent can be a victim.

August 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSymphony

the article isn't there anymore. Here's a screen cap

http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xxlmagks6.png

August 23, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMaybelle

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