Cross-Posted by Faith at Acts of Faith In Love and Life blog
Yeah so the Prez called the cops that arrested his friend Skip Gates “stupid” and talked the talk about how race relations are still not where they need to be. Some of you who watched Black In America 2 actually enjoyed it. Of course you had to ignore the fact they showed all lighter shade of pale blacks who had lots and lots of money OR the hoodrats we all think we’re so far removed from, but that’s what magical thinking is for. The “Middle Class” was ignored for a reason. Either you’re going to step it up or you’re going to slide to the bottom – so consider that a warning.
No, back in the real world the victims are not Harvard scholars who wanted to play the dozens with the police for asking him for proof of identity. The real victims are like Harvard student Chanequa Campbell the esteemed Dr. Gates completely ignored as she was being railroaded by the school and completely hung out to dry by other blacks.
Of course we hear the message loud and clear in the “black community” that the only victims of oppression are black men and the only oppressors are whites. So when I saw this story at CNN about an 8 year old Liberian female whose family immigrated here being gang-raped by four boys I couldn’t even feel “outrage”. The further insult to her numerous injuries and damage is that her parents were thought to be a danger to her because Child Protective Services had to remove her from their home.
Will the President speak on her behalf?
Will we?
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I hear you loud and clear Faith.
When I saw the headline of that atrocity on CNN this afternoon, I already knew the victim was a black girl.
I couldn’t even bare to open the link and won’t.
I’ve begun shielding myself somewhat from these horrors. Just to function without being haunted by these horrible accounts that are being reported.
And no, of course you won’t be hearing from the President, Sharpton, Jesse, or any other so called “black leader” speaking on this victims behalf.
Remember, the victim is FEMALE and black. Black males have basically cornered the market when it comes to victim status in the eyes of the so called “bc”.
All I know is more BW need to totally divest emotionally, financially, and most importantly PHYSICALLY, from this so called “community” that continues to hold them AND their vulnerable daughters in obvious contempt.
And when I say divest, what I really mean is STOP assuming black strangers – especially black male strangers – automatically have your best interest in mind. Stop assuming your automatically safer in majority black environments and that the “community” “has your back”.
Stop giving blind support and pledging your allegiance to folks who don’t return the favor.
Treat people the SAME regardless of “race” ACROSS THE BOARD.
Stop making excuses for depravity. And start demanding that people EARN your respect whoever they are.
That’s not too much to ask.
And as for Gates, I’ve noticed he’s apparently turned a blind eye to the original instigator of this mess.
A white woman (surprise surprise) named LUCIA WHALEN who’s a 40 year old fundraiser for Harvard Magazine.
http://www.jambonetwork.com/blog/?p=55912
http://afronetizen.blogs.com/files/gatesarrestreport072109.pdf
I think it’s very likely she knew good and well that was Gates all along.
So… IMO he needs to spread his outrage and charges of racism around.
And that’s a DARN good point about his failing to support Chanequa Campbell.
I’d forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder.
To sum things up, BW would be wise to start concentrating on the injustices happening to THEM.
I agree. A white woman called him in, but a black woman (the mayor of the city) had to personally apologize to him.
I didn’t watch Black in America, but according to the bloggers Gates has forgiven his neighbor and offered her flowers. What do you expect from a black man who goes all the way to Ireland to connect with his slave master ancestors LOL.
But didn’t the White House create a council on women and girls. I think Obama is fairly pro woman. He is completely surrounded by women. There were tons of police brutatliy stories that Obama did not comment on but I guess he finally felt “safe” commenting on a 60 year Harvard professor than a regular young urban male in his 20s.
You assume that BW support of black men is some kind of political act. It also has to do with sex and emotions.
I was just about to link the story from CNN about the little Black girl who was gang raped. I’m furious because I’m not hearing any type of outrage from the so called “Black Community” about what happend to this little girl. It reminds me of Dunbar Village all over again. I think those of us who are aware of what is going on can try to reach people on an individual basis because I have no hope that the “Black Community” will rally around Black girls an women when we are in need. Personally I’m invested in making sure young Black women have the information and resources to get out of the hell holes they live in. During my free time I volunteer as a mentor for a college prep program that targets mostly Black and Latino kids. The girls i mentor in the program are brillant but their home lives are something out of a horror movie. It’s crazy the type of garbage they have to deal with from their own families when they should be playing with dolls and focusing on their education. It’s dishearting.
@Naima Obama being surrounded by women has zero significance for me if the situation doesn’t change for the girls and women who aren’t in his proximity. He’s surrounded by “certain” women. Women who are upper-class and well-connected. Those women are not the ones that need protecting. Obama is as pro-woman as any office holder is who has to answer to constituents with clout demanding their needs be addressed. We don’t know his personal feelings about anything except perhaps the fact that he loves his wife and daughters.
That is great to see but what about all the children born from the 80% OOW birth rates whose daddies have abandoned them and who are living in residential cesspools? Who’s speaking for them?
It is also a good idea to not assign thoughts or feelings to me or any other woman who reads this blog that you’re guessing as far as black women supporting black men. If you have read and comprehended anything that’s been discussed the past two years+ at this blog or the week I’ve been guest-posting here you would’ve figured out by now that certain black women, growing up under certain mentalities, who are being taught the “black community” lie to keep them as free labor and sperm receptacles are NOT supporting black men for political reasons but because they’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated to do so.
Once those false constructs are exposed and abandoned many will take the red pill and leave the Matrix.
I can’t believe the victime and suspect involved in the assualt are all babies. We are talking eight to fourteen years old. There is something wrong with that picture. The parents of that little girl should be arrest for child endangerment and negliect. The sister needs to be put in a scared straight program or something. To even say that this innocent eight year old bought shame to the family.
As far as, the Harvard professor story; correct me if I’m wrong but usually in upscale suburban neighborhoods everyone knows their neighbors. I just find it strange that this woman(a white woman at that) didn’t know that that was the owner of his house. LD is scratching her head.
What I am saying is that women are caught up in the sex and just having any man, thats why we have the 70% OOW rate and caught up in the mess we have today. That whole help a brotha out is just political rhetoric, a lot of woman just are not that political, especially the younger ones.
Sistas are desperate and BM know it. Do you see where I am going, I don’t want to go R rated on Gina’s blog.
I am with you more BW have to practice self presevation of them and their children if they have any. If you feel no one can protect you then go get a gun license
@LD @ Felicia @ Celeste That woman knew he lived there. For all we know she was a McCain supporter, hates the fact Obama is in office and just wanted to lash out at some black people. The fact that Gates has revealed himself to have ZERO racial or ethnic pride and is nothing more than an educated bootlicker to a white woman who wanted to cause him harm speaks volumes about his character – to me anyway. LUCIA WHALEN is one of those types of white women who’d have sex with a black man, accuse him of rape and watch him get lynched and think nothing of it. But I will say it once and again: as long as blacks engage in sexism and violence against black females AND homophobia the “white oppressors” will always have the upper hand. It’s justice ACROSS THE BOARD or NOTHING!
from my hotel room at blogher. I’m somewhat distressed that ppl are obsessed with skip gates and few people have mentioned the attack on this baby.
Skip Gates is a privleged Black man that thought he was going to “SHOW OUT” in front of a bunch of cops… REAL TALK, if a frat boy had antagonized a cop in front of his fellow officers, they would have ended up with a broken nose from being slammed to the ground.
So 4hour is a poo chi chi municipal jail don’t make u the 2nd coming of mlk
@Naima You are still assigning blame solely to black women instead of the men who are feeding the message and fueling the desperation. If other MEN policed the behavior of these males then this wouldn’t be a problem. It’s the MEN who are messing around with 2-5-8 different women at a time. They are the impetus for some of these foolish women to insist no other men would be attracted to them. The MEN (I use that term loosely) are the ones caught up in the sex and have no EMOTIONAL TIES to these women OR the children that result from these liaisons. It’s why they so easily walk away. If you are unable to put two and two together on this you are doing a disservice to those that need to come out of their disordered thinking! How are you going to come here on a blog that’s meant to uplift black women and tell them it’s their fault! That is DBR behavior. You either get it or you’re here to cause further dissent.
“The fact that Gates has revealed himself to have ZERO racial or ethnic pride and is nothing more than an educated bootlicker to a white woman who wanted to cause him harm speaks volumes about his character – to me anyway.”
Can somebody say WORD?!
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/12165/prof-henry-louis-gates-tells-cnn-about-his-experience-with-cambridge-police
“O’BRIEN: A neighbor called 911. I mean, it was a neighbor of yours who said that description, two black men breaking into your house. Are you angry with your neighbor?
GATES: No. In fact I hope right now that if someone is breaking into my house this nice lady is calling the police. I have a lot of valuable art and books in that house. And in fact, I think I’m going to send this person some flowers. I hope she is watching. I know that she must be intimidated and she must think that I’m very angry.
It wasn’t her fault. It was the fault of the policeman who couldn’t understand a black man standing up for his rights right in his space. And that’s what I did. And I would do the same thing exactly again.”
Maybe someone could adopt this little girl. Oh right divesters say don’t adopt the damaged black children in the system
My God! You know I thought that I could not be more sickened after Dunbar but an 8 year old girl. This is when I have thoughts about doing to those beasts things that I don’t think it wise to print here. Suffice to say it would make Quentin Tarantino blush.
We have to stop this insanity! All of us who truly care about the plight of Black women and girls have to do what we can to bring major attention, constant attention on atrocities like this. Shock them into action. As far as the President, if we want him to do something about it, we must make him do it through petitions, emails, phone calls, letters and marches if need be. This war on Black women and girls HAS GOT TO STOP AND ALL OF US MUST DO OUR PART IN ENDING IT!
Finally shame on Gates for leaving the sister in the wind.
Just so that you haven’t missed it Naima has firmly landed on the DBR-side.
@Naima: If you are going to bring a post at another blog into the conversation HERE at least tell it accurately.
The point is:
a) for unmarried black women who waited too long for their non-existent black male prince to NOT settle for single motherhood by adopting a child
b) to take care that they knew the entire history of any child if they decided to proceed anyway
c) ultimately that the BLACK MEN WHO ABANDONED THESE KIDS TO BEGIN WITH should COME & GET THEM and stop relying on OTHER PEOPLE to clean up THEIR MESSES.
It’s for some women who were going into a potential cesspool to have full knowledge of what they were getting into and to be as prepared as possible. And to rethink their choices.
It the Gates situation turned out a little differently and
a.) Gates was severely injured by the police
and/or
b.)Wahlen was a black woman
would Gates still send her flowers.
“This isn’t about me; this is about the vulnerability of black men in America,” Gates said.
“This isn’t about me; this is about the vulnerability of black men in America,” Gates said.
From the horses mouth.
Black women need to be concerned with issues SPECIFICALLY related to them as BW.
Just like BM are specifically interested in issues related to them.
It’s best to let the “brothas” fend for themselves ladies.
Because BW aren’t anywhere are their radar when it comes to issues of abuse.
Skip made that perfectly clear in the above statement Halima shared.
BW need to let this “saving alla our people” mess GO. Because too many of “our people” are only truly concerned with themselves.
A truly sickening and despicable crime. Only briefly mentioned in the major news media and by tomorrow everyone will have forgotten what happened to this little girl.
It was mentioned on Essence.com the four boys were also Liberian refugees and that the crime of rape had only recently been outlawed in that country.
http://www.essence.com/news_entertainment/news/articles/eightyearold_girl_raped_by_young_boys
I’m sure some idiot will spin this into “well, the young boys were only engaging in behavior that was part of their culture” or “we can’t hold them to the same standards as someone who grew up in American culture.”
I really fear for what tomorrow will be like with children like this growing up in America.
Wow. I saw the end of Black In America. I didn’t see any “hoodrats”, and onle one “pale” person, but I didn’t know we were supposed to take count.
I’m sorry I just found the use of the term “hoodrat” on here objectionable. I’m sure Cheniqua Cambell was called that many a time during her time at Harvard.
As far as Gates, he just got a rude awakening about how to talk to cops.
@daniecal Do you even read this blog on a regular basis? Yesterday’s BIA2 was a very deliberate contrast between the lighter skinned blacks who were doing well and the darker skinned blacks who were not. Class disdain is always expressed in these situations with some ppl looking down on others. Perhaps the nuance and sarcasm went over your head. We have been discussing on rather serious terms the pending permanent black underclass that will get left behind due to unchecked behaviors that are very destructive. Which BIA2 did not and will not discuss. They want to lull ppl into a sense of false security. And if you’d actually read the post that Gina wrote about how Cheniqua Campbell was treated by the so-called black elites you would’ve understood that immediately. So that should clear things up for you. The point of this post was to highlight how she and this poor little Liberian 3rd grader have been worked over by DBR black males and others full of apathy.
Naima,
You said, “Maybe someone could adopt this little girl.”-
Maybe YOU could adopt this little girl.
Maybe YOU could reach out to the local prosecutor’s office, and local victim advocacy groups to find out what specific needs this little girl might have right now.
Maybe YOU could coordinate donations for this little girl.
Nobody is stopping YOU from working on any of this.
I’m sure that if you put your mind to it, you could think of several concrete actions YOU can take to help this little girl.
YOU could do this instead of calling for “someone” ELSE to take action on behalf of this little girl.
Nobody is stopping YOU from doing whatever YOU feel needs to be done for this little girl (and for the other Black children in the system). I would strongly urge YOU to take concrete actions in furtherance of your professed concern for this girl.
With justice in mind.
@gina, I agree with you about Gates. Gates, along with Mr. Michael Eric Dyson, think they are the second Jesus coming for black men. Along with the blowhard Tom Joyner.
I can’t believe the victim and suspect involved in the assault are all babies. We are talking eight to fourteen years old. There is something wrong with that picture. –LD
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Respectfully, the suspects ARE NOT BABIES. In my opinion, these boys are no longer children psychologically, behaviorally, or socially.
We MUST REFRAIN from casting *young* aged boys or girls predators/psychopaths/sociopaths in the same bucket as children who have not had their natural disposition damaged by inappropriate, abusive, and immoral modeling from their adult peers. They are NOT to blame for their knowledge or exposure to sexually perverted behavior but I can’t believe the victim and suspect involved in the assault are all babies. We are talking eight to fourteen years old. There is something wrong with that picture.
>It is ABNORMAL for 8 year olds to have extensive knowledge of full blown sexual intercourse.
>It is ABNORMAL for 8 year olds to understand the psycho-social dynamics involved in using violence, sex, and intimidation for tribal vendettas, egocentric needs, or just the wish to dominate or destroy something.
> It is ABNORMAL for 8 year olds NOT to have been shown empathy, compassion, kindness, respect, fairness, and discipline; not to have been taught manners, home rules, and civil behavior so that they can act it out in their childhood.
This case is HORRIFIC because again while they are not to blame for their exposure to sexually perverted behavior THEY ARE and MUST be held accountable. Black women and girls should take note that these young aged boys are learning this behavior from other black men, and boys—and it’s been reinforced by damaged beyond repair black women, confused black women, or even fearful black women.
As the economy becomes worse, and law enforcement loses its ability to police communities due to budget cuts, this plague is going to grow….
I actually have some other thoughts or concerns to share that tie in with law enforcement in our community:
*** I have been racially and religiously profiled several times—especially when flying. *** I do understand how humiliating, frightening, and stressful that experience can be. I also do think that law enforcement needs to come up with a modern day strategy for executing security services.
Perhaps, I’m just totally weird, and this concern is only in my little ol head but:
I’m beginning to notice a pattern in these Dunbar Village demonic attacks on BW/BG, especially the males are young in age:
*** THEY SHOULD NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE***
Americans—we are a people of EXTREMES. This is especially noticeable in how our law enforcement community and legal system manages these cases.
I remain firm upon my previous statement that male and females who are young in age are NOT to blame for their exposure, and knowledge of not only sexually perverted behavior but any immoral, inhumane, uncivilized behavior period. This does NOT mean they are NOT accountable: I’m reluctant to jump on the “lynch all the white police officers bandwagon” because the law enforcement community is the last resource BW/BG have left in having these black males or ANY male held legally, socially, and financially accountable for their CRIMES. Black men from ALL class tiers, from ALL religions, and from ALL family orientations have FAILED to police themselves.
I’m very concerned about this. It’s a CRYING shame it’s come down to this but we are already here, and must demonstrate maturity and sound judgment in moving forward.
I know Reverend Al-Sharpton and his I crew are quick to claim that sentencing for black males is disproportionate to the crime committed BUT we are going to the other extreme by not helping these predators by proving intensive, and consistent treatment while holding them legally, financially, and socially accountable for the crime. BOTH strategies must be enacted to affect some form of change?
The fact that our civil right groups that fought so hard to hold the white masses accountable, and grant access to the mainstream for us, it’s a shock that they have an issue with accountability when it comes to themselves
Speak the truth even if it’s against your self
Something… something really, really, really, screwy has happened to the way we socialize our children.
My pre-schooler is held accountable for not following directions or remaining in funky attitudes in my household. I do not feel like I’m an overbearing or mean parent.
Peace
P.S. To the reader who suggested that we adopt children in the system: Do you realize that parenting children with special needs, or children severely damaged by distress requires a specialized skill set that must be learned from an expert? Do you realize that is something not at all BW should or can do? You might think you’re helping but you’re really hurting. It’s useless to get a child’s hopes up so high only for them come down crashing because the parent was unaware of the skill set needed to care for them?
I’m sorry but I guess I just disagree with some of the sentiments. I’m a black woman and I grew up in a white neighborhood. My father use to get stopped by the police almost anytime he was walking in the neighborhood he lived in.
Sorry ladies, I must dissent. This incident does piss me off.
It deals with how COPS lie. If you check out the police report the WHITE cop clearly thinks all black people talk like they do on Good Times. I knew immediately the white cop was lying based off what he claimed a Harvard Educated, who travels around the world black man said… “Yo mamma …..” What middle aged Harvard educated man is going to yell at a white cop about his mamma. Give me a break! When I read some of that stuff I just rolled my eyes. My only issue is this is a teaching moment for the world too see how young black men are treated AND NOT black women. We get stopped, scrutinized, harassed, beat, killed, and raped by the police in this country.
Sorry ladies but Professor Gates has stood up for black women and young ladies. Just because someone doesn’t get involved with EVERY single incident that you think they should, doesn’t mean they haven’t stood up for black women and girls before. You’ve got a lot of black women and girls who have made it too Harvard because this black man made sure he pulled some strings and helped level the playing field.
“That is great to see but what about all the children born from the 80% OOW birth rates whose daddies have abandoned them and who are living in residential cesspools? Who’s speaking for them?”
I’m sorry, and I may be biased as a long-married woman, but I have never considered an out-of-wedlock child as being abandoned by the father.
Plenty of MARRIED women, who dedicated their lives with dignity and respect to their families and husbands, have been left by those “men” for whatever trifling reasons. As wives, these women made lifetime legal, civil, moral and religious commitments to their husbands, only to be betrayed. That is ABANDONMENT.
Getting (…and staying) pregnant by a man that you have no legal, civil or religious commitment to, is on YOU. That may be unpopular to say, but it is real.
I get you greater point, and I agree with you, but this isn’t what happened: “Harvard scholars who wanted to play the dozens with the police for asking him for proof of identity.”
Gates had no problem showing the officer his Harvard ID and MA driver’s license, and did so when asked.
The point you’re making about not losing focus on young girls is strong enough on its own merits. You don’t have to misconstrue the facts of the Gates case, or belittle what happened to Gates to make your point. It doesn’t have to be, and shouldn’t be an either/or proposition.
There’s enough room to be accurate and for *all* of these cases/issues to be brought to the fore.
I think its been a very long time since Henry Louis Gates gave a damn about either the average Black woman or man in this society.
He’s just mad because he finally got his “NEGRO WAKE UP!” call.
as wack as it is, people can’t know about EVERYTHING. They can’t speak on every injustice. There are plenty of things that happen to young black women that doesn’t make it to this blog, but I assume you do what you can.
Dyson, Joyner, Sharpton, etc… it’s not their fault that black people listen to them in heavy number, which it turn makes them sought after for comment by the white media. They do positive things in the community and that’s what should count. Their flaws are not the focus, because we all have them.
@Naima, here’s what I see. These “men” deliberately prey upon women who have low self esteem, that is why these women are duped into sleeping with them. In this country if you are a poor, brownskinned (especially) black woman, you are told by this society that you are worthless, that no one will ever love you, that you have to take whatever scraps are on the table. These “men” just add fuel to the fire, they tell the women they are worthless and lucky to have them. That’s why there is so much OOW births, not because the women are doing anything wrong.
Ladies, someone mentioned your blog post on another blog ans I came to check you out. And after reading the blog and subsequent posts, I agree whole heartedly.
For the most part, Black women have been abandoned in the community for the most part. Which is a tragedy, because God ordained men to be the direct protectors of the women in his household, and to be the protectors of the women in the community.
And where it is the woman’s gift to nurture the child and help them to develop emotionally and intuitively, it is the man who teaches the child how to make a living and how conduct themselves in their societal interactions.
Many have abdicated their positions, and the results are often seen in the dysfunction of kids and young adults. Especially as it applies to the women and young ladies in our community.
While the mantle of progress has evolved from being about the community as a whole, to one of being about Black men, with the same vigor and zeal to champion the neglect of the Black woman’s struggle, I totally understand the frustration.
Oh, and another tid-bit. 16 year olds can strip in Rhode Island…. as long as they are off the pole by 11:30 on school nights.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/07/24/pn.sixteen.year.old.strippers.cnn
Expect this trend to spread to other states.
Final question. How long before this impacts he women in our community?
There is definitely enough outrage to dish out from this post. I’ll direct mine at the parents of this poor little girl. Who knows why this girl was so easily lured by the promise of chewing gum? (I tell my daughter time and time again to be weary of strangers, yet she can’t help but speak and be polite. I only pray that she does not go with anyone but I must still CONSTANTLY remind her). Whatever the reason, this poor little girl was violently assaulted and it will take years of therapy for her to recover. Thank God the nation is looking and there seems to be legitimate concern for her well being. My outrage is to her parents who NOW have shunned the child because SHE brought shame on the family. The claim is undeniable and they don’t deserve to have her back in their family. http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/gang_rape_07_22_2009
“with the same vigor and zeal to champion the neglect of the Black woman’s struggle,”
meant to say with the total absence of the same vigor and zeal to champion the neglect of the Black woman’s struggle,
Regarding the Prof. Gates/Obama debacle, Bill Cosby summed it up perfectly:
“I’ve heard about five different reports [on the details of the arrest]. If I’m the president of the United States, I don’t care how much pressure people want to put on it about race, I’m keeping my mouth shut.”
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/07/23/bill-cosby-shocked-at-obamas-statement-on-harvard-profs-arrest/
Since President Obama didn’t have all the facts, it would have been wiser for him to stay quiet and focus on the economy for the short term. Once the whole story came to light, THEN he can speak up.
By not minding his tongue, the President comes off as being reckless and thus a poor leader. The guy’s approval numbers were declining already because of the economy so he shouldn’t play into a bad image.
fdow wrote:
“@LD @ Felicia @ Celeste That woman knew he lived there. For all we know she was a McCain supporter, hates the fact Obama is in office and just wanted to lash out at some black people.”
Lucia Whalen could just as easily be a liberal.
For example, here is what one White liberal said in a New York Times interview:
“Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe [v. Wade] was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.”
Note: “populations that we don’t want to have too many of” = Black people.
http://racism.suite101.com/article.cfm/ruth_bader_ginsburg_talks_sotomayor_roe
The White liberal was none other than Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the US Supreme Court.
So, I’m not going to assume that Whalen is a conservative or moderate. Justice Ginsberg is a reminder that racism transcends political beliefs.
At Fred, puhleaze it’s the main stream press that is completely reckless. The fact that they are jumping up and down about a last minute question/answer and not the healthcare reform debate that Obama talked about is why this country is in such a mess.
The president answered candidly. Maybe he should have chose different words but WHITE people need to get over it and focus on what matters – Healthcare, Economy, 2 Wars, Unemployment, etc.. I think white people are playing racial victimization. As if they are targeted on a daily basis like black people. Give me a break.
As a Harvard Law alum and former professor, perhaps President Obama knows Professor Gates, and that’s why he felt comfortable speaking up as and when he did. President Obama may even have spoken with others of the black Harvard professor elite about the incident to derive the facts on which he based his statements. While I understand where Mr. Cosby is coming from, there are some quarters that want Mr. Cosby to shut up about other matters about which he has been outspoken. So just because some quarters don’t want certain things said does not necessarily mean they shouldn’t be or don’t need to be said.
@Wanda If you understand the importance of choosing a mate for their qualities and selecting one of caliber then you’d realize a man who isn’t providing and protecting his child and the mother of that child has abandoned them. Being married is better than not as far as benefits to the mother goes but blaming marriage for poor spousal selection conflates the issue. It is not normal for one group to have an 80% OOW birth rate so you need to get real here.
Miss Thing: I have sympathy for your dad but these situations have nothing to do with each other. What exactly has Dr. Gates done for the plight of the disadvantage black girl and woman. I clearly laid out that he did ZIP for Chenequa Campbell. So feel free to list his efforts for our review. Otherwise you’re just making things up to support your confused thinking.
Miriam: THANK YOU! Your points are so spot on. A 14 year old who serves as a ring leader to a gang rape is LOST TO DEPRAVITY. The fact that these formerly innocent children have been RUINED is horrible, but yes, they do have to be held accountable and removed from endangering other innocent children. If people who have these kids actually PARENT them and well we wouldn’t be having these problems. The excuse of criminality and failures is going to snare a LOT of innocent children in that grip of sin.
@Scipio It’s my post and I can write what I like the way I prefer. This isn’t being written for your convenience or from an excusing of dysfunctional behaviors. This is a blog about uplifting black girls and women not for black male protectionism with zero accountability.
@undressingher Covering everything on one blog with one blog host is impossible. A group moderated blog of full time bloggers could do it though. Do you want to financially support that? The infotainment hustlers and victim peddlers for profit (their own) push their way into the spotlight. Have you noticed they’re all MEN? it’s part of the sexism and devaluation of women. Civil Rights would’ve NEVER made it if it had not been for African-American WOMEN who carried all those male spokes-hoggers on their backs.
@Fred Yes Obama has sided with the good Professor is now going to catch hell from whites. We’ll see how long it takes for him to “clarify” his statements. It would’ve been great if he’d decided to do something far more constructive for the black masses than this. It was a wasted gesture that provides no real benefits for blacks. Also your attribution to Justice Ginsberg is a little flimsy. She could have easily been talking about irresponsible populations of people who aren’t capable of caring for their offspring due to poor choices (well that might apply to those across race categorizations but it’s not an absolute)
Note to Readers: The point of this post was to discuss the black girls and women being left to fend for themselves.
Let’s bring back the focus on THEM.
@fdw
Regarding “It’s my post and I can write what I like the way I prefer.”
You’re right.
“@Fred Yes Obama has sided with the good Professor is now going to catch hell from whites. We’ll see how long it takes for him to “clarify” his statements.”
HOT OFF THE PRESSES.
“President Obama said Friday he spoke with the police officer who arrested a Harvard professor and told the officer he did not mean to malign the Cambridge Police Department.”
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/24/officer.gates.arrest/index.html
Black on black crime rarely becomes a big national or local issue for that matter. But this poor girls story is on both CNN and Drudge so it is making national news. The 14 year old will be charged as an adult. They interviewed the little girls teen sister and the sister was acting like her lil sister just scraped her knee and the father is acting like the little girl did something wrong. The family has been here 5 years so I am disappointed they haven’t learned that in American culture rape is unacceptable.
The Arizona authorities are taking care of the child, what do you suggest should be done next?
QUOTED: QUEEN LATIFAH ON SEXUAL ABUSE
http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/22/quoted-queen-latifah-on-sexual-abuse/
“For a short period of time when she was a child, Latifah was the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of a teenager charged with her care. “He violated me,” she says of the abuser. “I never told anybody; I just buried it as deeply as I could and kept people at an arm’s distance. I never really let a person get too close to me. I could have been married years ago, but I had a commitment issue.” Eventually, she opened up to her parents, who separated when she was young. “When I was 22, my brother died, and I knew I couldn’t carry his death and that secret,” she says. “I had to get it off my chest. My mother felt terrible. She was kind of a country girl, so she wasn’t up on how slick people could be. When I told my dad, he said nothing.” Latifah says now that it was scary when her father didn’t respond. “He’s a man of action,” she says.
But Latifah doesn’t blame her parents for what occurred. In fact, she credits them with doing their best to protect her while she was growing up. She points out that one in four girls is sexually abused in some way. “That’s 25 percent of all girls. This is a real problem,” she says. Not unlike many victims of abuse, she wondered if she had played a role in what happened. Her talks with a therapist helped her find the unequivocal answer. “He said, ‘Imagine yourself as an adult and think about what a child can do to you. Can they beat you? Can they defeat you? No. Now, imagine yourself as that child.’ That really helped put things in perspective. I was a kid, and I had no power or control over the situation. I really wish I had the strength and knowledge to say something sooner, because I always wondered, Did he do that to someone else? But I accept that the time for action has come and gone.”
@Felicia I was going to update with Obama’s major bow & scrape. I can’t believe it! But I shouldn’t be surprised at all.
@Naima You’ve already been given advice what to do so stop trying to throw it back at black women. Be a man and step up!
@FDW
The situations are not exclusive of each other. Both incidents – my father’s and professor Gates are examples of racial profiling.
So, because he doesn’t help Chenequa, ONE black female, you cast him off? Why are you ASSUMING he hasn’t done anything for black women and girls? Just because you don’t hear about his outreach to black females doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Please read my post. This man has helped young black women GET INTO HARVARD. He has MENTORED young black women! Have you ever listened to his lecturers? Have you gone on his website? Have you been in his class? Goodness, you’re as bad as that white police officer and you don’t even realize it. (SMH)
fdow, are you ok?
First of all I am all woman. How am I blaming it on women. CNN only interviewed the sister and the father, and as I recall I mentioned both. And I also asked at the end, do you have any suggestions on what can be done next?
“Being married is better than not as far as benefits to the mother goes but blaming marriage for poor spousal selection conflates the issue.”
I’m not really sure I understand you here, but marriage is for the benefit of the ENTIRE FAMILY, especially the children.
I’ve been around long enough to see the difference between the quality of men we produced when most of us were married, compared to the lack of quality now, with males coming from single-mother families.
Years ago, too many people said that random sex was okay, and the father wasn’t necessary. Now, we expect women and girls to survive in places where there are no men to discipline the wild boys
…and now the girls are becoming just as wild to survive as well.
@Naima I’m fine. People online are not always the gender they claim to be so I was checking. Regardless you still spend too much time blaming black women and asking for others to come up with solutions. Why don’t YOU offer some? You’ve had ample opportunity to do so.
@Miss Thang You haven’t offered any evidence of Gates helping improve the lives of black girls and women beyond anything that might directly involve his self-interest as requested.
@Wanda You were the one devaluing marriage and stating that OOW births are acceptable to you. That’s the antithesis of the message that should be sent.
@Miss Thang I have zero interest in continuing to discuss Skip Gates. Since you haven’t provided anything to back up your opinion we’ll be moving on. The fact that you are here reading this post – which is about the hypocrisy of focusing on educated black men of privilege while ignoring the disadvantaged status of many black girls and women is what needs to be examined – and is part of an extended effort at improving the lives of countless women we may never meet. Knowledge is power. If other messages were being presented on a wide-spread basis that uplifted us we very well may not need to blog about it. Sifting through a lot of confused and obstinate women who want to cling to their totems instead of thinking critically and focusing on that requires a lot of work and patience. Since you have nothing new to add you may sit out the rest of this conversation.
“@Wanda You were the one devaluing marriage and stating that OOW births are acceptable to you. That’s the antithesis of the message that should be sent.”
Dear, you must have me confused with someone else.
I think you said:
“…blaming marriage for poor spousal selection conflates the issue.”
My point is that when there is no marriage, there is NO spouse selection. Just because you have sex with someone does not make them your spouse. That’s makes them your sex partner.
That’s elevating the casual sexual relationship to that of a formal marriage, which is what I believe has happened with our people, and is the damaging notion that must be turned around.
Will Liberia speak out for the 8 year old girl? Liberia has a female president. Why have we not heard from her?
The 8 year old has a mother and so do the boys who committed the gang rape. Where is their responsibility to protect this child?
The child was removed from her parents’ custody because BOTH of them are trifling.
The sentiments about black men being irresponsible are warranted, but are all black women the perennial victims when some of them engage in their own degradation?
I’m done with the assimilated negro who played his HNIC card and got his cajones handed to him.
May the 8 year old girl be adopted by people who actually care about her. It’s obvious that BOTH black men and women FAILED her.
@Wanda You said: “I’m sorry, and I may be biased as a long-married woman, but I have never considered an out-of-wedlock child as being abandoned by the father.”
My replies followed. There was no confusion.
@Blkseagoat The families have lived in the US for 5 years and have residency here, but I’d be interested in what the President of Liberia has to say. I’ve written extensively about the dysfunctional behavior exhibited by many black men and black women so your question doesn’t sense to me. My first guest post here was about never-married bw choosing DBRs at mates and the negative impact ont heir lives. Since the majority of black children have been abandoned on numerous levels by these black men – hence the 80% OOW birth rate and women are Raising Him Alone yes I will always focus on that. Women have to choose better but to do so they’re going to have to leave these inadequate males alone. Since the message is to constantly give them time, a 2nd chance, blah blah blah with a concentrated effort at keeping a supply of desperate women for their abuse AND I don’t see a group of black males making a concentrated effort at policing these men OR at helping these women I will continue to discuss this. I could care less about the discomfort or hurt feelings about apathetic people who’ve stood by and let this destruction take place.
I completely agree with Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann. Those young boys MUST be held accountable for their actions.
I am sickened and disgusted at the lack of compassion the girl’s family has shown toward her after she has been violently attacked. Her sister continually referenced the attackers as part of “the same people” (e.g., Liberian). Why is she claiming and embracing violent, sexual offenders? Actually, I know it is cultural, but some cultural biases actual violate individual human rights – and this is one of those instances. I also agree with Wanda – there aren’t enough men to police the males in our community.
We must affirm life as well as the dignity and innocence of our most precious and vulnerable population – children. We MUST.
Faith,
I do care though… Particulary when black women are complicit in their own destruction. Moreso when black men commit that destruction because I am a man. However, we have a generation of both trifling black men and women who’ve become comfortable with apathy about abuse.
My comment isn’t downing black women and girls and I hope that it wasn’t taken that way.
An 8 year Liberian refugee was raped by 2 boys in Arizona ages 9-14. Her father told police to “keep her”. He doesn’t want her back!
http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2009/07/23/20090723abrk-phxsexassault23-ON.html
Can someone clue me in as to why small children are becoming rapists lately? Seems the age for this crime is dropping day by day.
Typo above: should read “by 4 (four) boys”
I also agree with Miriam…The perpetrators of this heinous crime MUST be removed immediately and disciplined for their actions…
Sorry, but this post makes no case for why Chanequa Campbell should have been defended. (It may have been in another post, but I saw no link.) I’m an Ivy League alumna, and while I know all too well the prejudices students of color and students from lower-income backgrounds face at places like Harvard, I also know that these schools generally bend over backwards to protect their students and are usually hesitant to take disciplinary actions unless they have substantial evidence to warrant it. Now, I fully back the principle of “innocent until proven guilty,” but on the other hand, I’m not going to jump to defend (or denounce) somebody when I’m not privy to the facts. And when the Harvard murder came out, pretty much the only parties who had that information were the Cambridge PD and Harvard. So I don’t blame Prof. Gates one bit for not jumping into that melee.
“Can someone clue me in as to why small children are becoming rapists lately?”
Have you seen what passes for popular culture in the US?
I believe we just discussed the Lil Wayne’s song (F*&K every girl) while his daughter and friends did a dance rendition of it at the BET Awards show.
The Dunbar incident and others doesn’t surprise me in the least. We should really gear ourselves up for the madness yet to come.
I do care though… Particularly when black women are complicit in their own destruction More so when black men commit that destruction because am man. However, we have a generation of both trifling black men and women who’ve become comfortable with apathy about abuse. My comment isn’t downing black women and girls and I hope that it wasn’t taken that way. -BLK Sea Goat
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SS: What I have observed is that black women who have or are being presented with life affirming messages are rejecting them because: their self esteem, and basic will to live has been completed destroyed; they understand these life affirming messages but choose to remain psychologically, and physically in these situations out of anger, and a desire to punish both black women and black men; and finally, many of them are *ADDICTED* to pain and dysfunctional relationships.
Addictions are ***DEAL BREAKERS***.
Can someone clue me in as to why small children are becoming rapists lately? Seems the age for this crime is dropping day by day. Shocked Speechless
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SS: Before I talk about our people, I want to say something about ALL people—raising children TODAY is nothing like it was DECADES ago. We are in a new era, where yesterdays problem present themselves in very complicated, and convoluted ways that require more than traditionalist sloganeering. We’ve also added to yesterday’s problems by not resolving some challenges of modernization, and some other movements. Teacher’s years ago disciplined children for chewing bubble gum, not raising their hand before speaking, or not addressing them by their title. Today, home-schooling, and other alternatives of public school have grown as a rejection to the decay in our society. Parenting has changed with the advent of self-help, the replacement of council of elders with popular psychology experts, and on and on…
When it comes to our people, I’m beginning to see we are producing children that are a menace to society because the quality of the relationships we have with black men—and they each other—is substandard. It’s like the masses no longer have any standard, and are just “winging” it based on how they feel at the moment.
If I had a black son, I’d totally be home-schooling to remove him away from any setting that would compete with my beliefs, values, and standards. I would totally choose my paradigm over what I’m seeing…
My point is that when there is no marriage, there is NO spouse selection. Just because you have sex with someone does not make them your spouse. That’s makes them your sex partner. That’s elevating the casual sexual relationship to that of a formal marriage, which is what I believe has happened with our people, and is the damaging notion that must be turned around. –Wanda
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SS: I agree with you Wanda. This is a HUGE problem in the black community. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard black women exclaim: “Marriage is just a piece of paper.” Although, I will also say, that I believe that our legal system reinforces this concept by giving couples, and children outside of marriage the same financial, and legal rights of those who are married. That doesn’t help much either, and reinforces the belief that marriage is just a certificate. But of course anyone who holds such a position is accused of punishing children by people who don’t get that they daily reality of risk, struggle, distress, and the realization of abandonment by the children is the punishment.
“I also agree with Wanda – there aren’t enough men to police the males in our community.”
Thank you so much, Crecilla. I just want to make sure that I am clear about what needs to be done. We just lost a young, distant relative last week to gunfire in Brooklyn…
@April You might want to do a little more research into the Campbell situation. Gates did not offer any support – and as I’ve stated the focus should be on the black girls and women not the very out of touch Gates.
In the future you can also do an archive search here for the post and comments, but I’ll link it here.
http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2009/06/what-chanequa-cambell-did-wrong-at-harvard-how-she-can-fix-things-now/
@Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann
You hit the nail on the head that “shacking up” has become so mainstream that traditional marriage is considered unnecessary. Even celebrities (e.g. Halle Berry) to local governments (e.g., too many to list) have jumped on the bandwagon. The problem is that children are hurt the most whether emotionally or physically when the parents aren’t married.
Incidentally, the Ruth Institute had a poll on this very subject. Check out these stats:
“According to Dr J, the answer is C. Here’s what she has to say: “Children in households with “unrelated adults” (usually the mothers’ boyfriends) were nearly 50 times more likely to die of inflicted injuries than households with two biological parents present.”
Here are Dr J’s comments on the other misconceptions:
* Contrary to feminist propaganda, two biological parents married to each other are the safest homes for children.
* Single mother households without an “unrelated adult” are no more dangerous to children than married couple households. This suggests that part of the problem with single moms is not the moms themselves, but the fact that they so often take up with new boyfriends.
* D. is also incorrect. According to a study of childhood deaths by inflicted injuries in the state of Missouri, stepparent and foster parent homes are no more likely to have kids die of inflicted injuries than homes with two biological parents. (I realize that other studies show increased risks for foster kids: this study has too few foster kids in the sample for those risks to show up!)”
http://ruthinstitute.org/polls/pollResults.html
In short, we have to stop being PC and hold Black men AND woman accountable for not being responsible by marrying each other and providing safety and stability for their kids.
“SS: I agree with you Wanda. This is a HUGE problem in the black community. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard black women exclaim: “Marriage is just a piece of paper.” Although, I will also say, that I believe that our legal system reinforces this concept by giving couples, and children outside of marriage the same financial, and legal rights of those who are married. That doesn’t help much either, and reinforces the belief that marriage is just a certificate.”
In my childhood, if you got pregnant here in the North, you got your behind sent down South to live with Aunt Serena and Uncle Harry, and gave birth in a stable environment that DID NOT ENCOURAGE further unmarried birthing in your own neighborhood.
I think we’ve facilitated unmarried birthing by providing artificial support systems to these young women, while at the same time, destroying the natural fabric of our families.
I will repeat: my marriage and the blessing that are my three children from it, cannot be compared to a young woman who has sex out of wedlock with “Pookie,” without any formal connection to him, and gets (and STAYS…) pregnant. Children want their parents living TOGETHER in a loving household. That happens through marriage, NOT just pregnancy.
I blame my generation for sending the wrong messages for too long.
If you have time …
http://gabrielsfire.wordpress.com/?p=32
“SHAME’ FELT BY YOUNG ASSAULT VICTIM’S FAMILY DECRIED
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/24/liberia.arizona.juvenile.assault/index.html
“This is not a question of shame on the family. It is the question of an assault on a young child. That cannot be tolerated,” said President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, speaking by telephone.
Police have charged four boys, ages 9 to 14, in the case. The boys also are Liberian refugees.
“We are so saddened,” Sirleaf said. “We are deeply distressed at this behavior on the part of our young Liberians and very saddened at this 8-year-old child who has been so victimized.”
I feel no compulsion to defend that ignorant fool Professor Gates. I’m even more disgusted that this fool’s petty squabble with the police got more attention than the violent assault of a young black girl.
Yup this confirms why I’ve rejected the Black Community notion a long time ago.
@Wanda
Time magazine recently published an article called
“Is There Hope for the American Marriage?” This excerpt really backs up your argument
Few things hamper a child as much as not having a father at home. “As a feminist, I didn’t want to believe it,” says Maria Kefalas, a sociologist who studies marriage and family issues and co-authored a seminal book on low-income mothers called Promises I Can Keep: Why Poor Women Put Motherhood Before Marriage. “Women always tell me, ‘I can be a mother and a father to a child,’ but it’s not true.” Growing up without a father has a deep psychological effect on a child. “The mom may not need that man,” Kefalas says, “but her children still do.”
This turns out to be true across the economic spectrum. The groundbreaking research on the effects of divorce on children from middle- and upper-income households comes from a surprising source: a Princeton sociologist and single mother named Sara McLanahan, who decided to study the fates of these children with the tacit assumption that once you control for income, being part of a single-parent household does not adversely affect kids. The results — which she published in the 1994 book Growing Up with a Single Parent: What Hurts, What Helps — were surprising. “Children who grow up in a household with only one biological parent,” she found, “are worse off, on average, than children who grow up in a household with both of their biological parents, regardless of the parents’ race or educational background.”
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908243-2,00.html
So, this is no longer a “Black problem,” but a national crisis. Hence, though it may cause some heads to explode, all Americans including myself must work hard to maintain our traditional marriages (one man, one woman) and treat them as the God-given gift they are. Otherwise, society as we know it won’t exist in a couple of generations.
Don’t look for those little girls to get coverage anytime soon. Remember, in politics, where policies are very male, anything dealinlg with women and children are secondary.
The little girl is Liberian and was attacked by fellow Liberians. So that’s a problem that occurred in the Liberian community.
She’s is black but let’s be clear that she apparently lives around members of her own country because the three boys who attacked her are from that country.
Miss Thang wrote
“At Fred, puhleaze it’s the main stream press that is completely reckless. The fact that they are jumping up and down about a last minute question/answer and not the healthcare reform debate that Obama talked about is why this country is in such a mess.”
Which is why the President should have taken Cosby’s advice and avoided talking about the whole Gates affair (i.e., Gates-gate) until having all the facts.
Obama could have responded to the question by saying either:
“No comment”
Or
“What does Gates’ arrest have to do with health care reform?”
“Gates-gate” is nipped in the bud.
@Lena
Yeah, the mainstream media is notorious for ignoring the rape of Black girls and women. The fact that so many self-appointed Black “leaders” don’t condemn this crisis encourages such behavior.
Just imagine what would happen if President Obama spoke forcefully against clear evil (i.e., rape of an 8-year old) instead of a murkier affair (i.e., “Gates-gate”). This would further embolden righteous Black people, motivate the apathetic Black people, and shame the Black thugs.
I am certainly glad there wasn’t a group of Black women just ‘taking up the cross’ for Gates…Let him fight his own battles!
MidgeR: I may have agreed with you except for the fact the family has lived in the US for 5 years. The focus on there being Liberian doesn’t excuse or heighten the depravity. It’s still about the socialization of black boys in this country and the allowance of depravity to become the norm. 9-14 year olds don’t just “happen” to lure, kidnap and rape.
Fred: You had me with your argument until you trotted out the one woman/man as marriage ideal. What is YOUR choice is not necessarily what works for every family. What children do need are proper role models, socialization and parents who love and respect each other. There will be no LGBT intolerance accepted here.
Zion: We are covering it here and at other blogs. And we will continue to do so. So can everyone here in fact.
I don’t believe that black folks are sitting around allowing black boys to become depraved. They clearly lived in a Liberian culture, neighborhood, etc. And I cannot even blame that on it. I have no idea what those boys have been watching on their computers when their parents are not home. It appears that they are being exposed to pornography.
Black folks very well may be so sick that we are encouraging our boys to go around raping people, but I have not seen any evidence that we have sunken that low yet.
@MidgeR Whether you believe it or not that is EXACTLY what is happening. That’s what’s been covered on this blog for its entire history. It’s what’s been happening to the entire “black community” for more than 40 years. So now it’s time to WAKE UP to reality.
@fdow: No hate. No intolerance. Because I have friends and relatives in the LGBT community. But I still have a question because what I see is a conundrum.
“What children do need are proper role models, socialization and parents who love and respect each other.”
I personally believe that children are better off with at least 1 parent rather than in the foster care system, so even if the parents are both male or both female then they are BETTER OFF…even if it’s still not IDEAL.
However, over the past few weeks, particularly during the Raising Him Alone discussion, there were strong opinions stating that a woman cannot raise a child alone, they NEED a man in the home to do things that a woman CANNOT do and SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED to do. And I would say that this is also true in the reverse, whereas the mother has here role that the father CANNOT fill.
Therefore, how are a child’s need for both male/female adult interactions and role models fulfilled in a male/male or female/female led household?
Again, you may choose to jump down my throat and call me a hater/redirectionist/obfuscator (just made up that word) for just asking the question…but I’m really interested in your thoughts on this…so I’m taking my chances anyway.
@justsaying If you are truly curious there are numerous parenting sites for LGBT families that you can go to for further research. This isn’t the forum for that. Do a Google search and good luck.
@midgeR
Google “Dunbar Village”. Google “Ramona Moore” Google “San Diego Marines Kill Superior Officer and Wife”
Just because you refuse to acknowledge the depravity, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. You can’t blame this on “Liberian” culture.
@midgeR oh look a new generation of trolls has been born that seems to think this is our first turn at the rodeo. nobody said “All Black men are depraved.” However, for you to act as if the gang rape of this child was some aberration attributable only to Liberian refugees is xenophobic. This case is not an aberration.
But go back and tell your overseers that you have failed because you couldn’t play it cool and keep your water dry. You need to repeat “trolling 101.” You also might want to learn to read for comprehension.
Don’t bother replying, you proclaimed you would never return to this blog, which is a lie, so I helped you keep your vow.
All the best!
The Benevolent Dictatortrix
I think that Obama was pressured by his advisors to give this half-hearted “apology” to the arresting officer. The first instinct is always the most honest. Initially, he was reacting to the fact that his friend was treated unjustly, but Obama has to walk a fine line when it comes to racial issues. He’s under enough scrutiny about Health Care Reform and other things. This just seems like a distraction to take the focus off of those issues. It’s obvious that everyone involved overreacted and they need to own up to it, apologize to each other face-to-face and move on. Whether this will actually happen remains to be seen. Dr. Gates’ pride and reputation have been damaged, so he may just hold on to his feelings longer than the officer.
As for that poor little girl, what angered me the most was the fact that her Mother does not believe she was raped. I saw the Mother being interviewed on CNN and she all but called her daughter a liar. Even with the physical evidence, I just don’t understand how the mother could question what happened. Maybe she is in denial and its easier to pretend that it didn’t happen rather than face it. My sympathies lie with the child and even the young boys who committed the crime. Obviously, they have never been taught to respect females otherwise, this would not have happened. It’s more of a society problem than a racial problem when tragedies like this occur. Pointing fingers is not going to solve anything. All of these children need positive guidance and support. I hope that all of these children involved get the help that they need because they are all victims in this.
LUCIA WHALEN is one of those types of white women who’d have sex with a black man, accuse him of rape and watch him get lynched and think nothing of it. ”
Extraordinary comment. Does this happen any more? Did it ever? While this blog is about black attacks on black women and children, black criminals get around. Many of their victims are white (about 30,000 per year according to the FBI.) White on black rape? About 10.
I was almost raped/murdered by black men strangers who approached me on the street late at night; 3 white men chased them away–they were off-duty firemen. So I have a personal connection. Although I look white, I do have black ancestry.
@desiree Pull up a chair it’s time for a little lesson!
If you doubt that statement you should do some more research. Rapes tend to occur along racial lines and your stats are way off.
If you know even basic history of race relations (lack of) in this country then you know white men used the attack on the “virtue” of white women as an excuse to lynch not only black men but women and children as well. While there are some white women raped by black men the greater numbers are black girls…and women. It is grossly underreported and the stats are based on women who’ve come forward. If you actually read this blog you’d have two years of posts that clearly define that.
White women have often accused black men of rape when the relationship was consensual or to exert white privilege. It’s been used in fiction like the great book and film to Kill a Mockingbird.
Surely you are not this unfamiliar with the workings of society. I suspect however you just take offense with a white woman being criticized for her racism and want to excuse and deny it. Nice try but it if I’m going to call out Skippy on his, I sure won’t let Whalen’s fly. She did say she thought she saw a “Hispanic-looking” male who didn’t belong at Gates’ house.
The problem with comparing Lucia Whalen to White women who falsely accused Black men of rape if three-fold.
First, Whalen has no history in slavery. Her family immigrated from another country, so where is her frame of reference culturally? Its not in the Jim Crow South. Sorry, She just doesn’t fit that profile and you and I both know that each country has their own unique brand of race based oppression
Second, Black middle class folks need to make up their minds. We can’t decry the failure of citizens to turn in the remaining 6 Dunbar Village gang rapists and repudiate this “Stop Snitching” culture and then turn around and attack a citizen for reporting suspicious activity. I want a nosey neighbor to call in if she sees someone jimmying my front door, even if that’s me.
Third. Who had the real power in this whole debacle? The cop? Whalen? Or the guys who was on the phone demanding that someone get him the chief of police, is best buddies with the president and had the Mayor, the governor and all of the BLack intelligensia running to his aid? Sorry, of all the people in this whole case, Whalen is the MOST sympathetic.
Hi. I just stumbled on your blog and I’m so glad I did! I knew this stuff was real and not just in my head. I have a 4 year old daughter that I’m raising alone (a result of my foolishness for sure but largely a result of her black father’s subconcious hatred of black women, as well). How and when do you suggest sitting her down and talking to her about the very real and very present hatred of her by not only society at large and the black community but more specifically by black men? How does a black mother have that conversation with her black daughter without being accused of being bitter and hateful? In reality, I’m AFRAID for her and could care less about a black man’s image so how do I do it? Thanking you in advance.