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	<title>Comments on: Tavis Smiley: Black Bloggers Second Class Citizens</title>
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		<title>By: enhager</title>
		<link>http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/11/tavis-smiley-black-bloggers-second-class-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-18072</link>
		<dc:creator>enhager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tavis reached out to the LA blogging community to screen his new film at his home. Check out the review, pictures and the blog roll at Leimert Park Beat.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tavis reached out to the LA blogging community to screen his new film at his home. Check out the review, pictures and the blog roll at Leimert Park Beat.com</p>
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		<title>By: webprospector</title>
		<link>http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/11/tavis-smiley-black-bloggers-second-class-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-15866</link>
		<dc:creator>webprospector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tavis who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tavis who?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/11/tavis-smiley-black-bloggers-second-class-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-15616</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems Tavis was trying to get more out of the deal than he wanted to give to the deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Tavis was trying to get more out of the deal than he wanted to give to the deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jia</title>
		<link>http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/11/tavis-smiley-black-bloggers-second-class-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You never cease to amaze me.

It makes absolutely no sense. What&#039;s the purpose of engaging your readers if you&#039;re simply going to choose a blogger at random? It&#039;s pretty much drumming up views and interests to their site, having people work overtime and a half for a possibility of recognition.

I, personally, do not believe that your letter was out line, nor do I think that it was inappropriate. 

Thank you for expressing OUR thoughts!

Jia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never cease to amaze me.</p>
<p>It makes absolutely no sense. What&#8217;s the purpose of engaging your readers if you&#8217;re simply going to choose a blogger at random? It&#8217;s pretty much drumming up views and interests to their site, having people work overtime and a half for a possibility of recognition.</p>
<p>I, personally, do not believe that your letter was out line, nor do I think that it was inappropriate. </p>
<p>Thank you for expressing OUR thoughts!</p>
<p>Jia</p>
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		<title>By: KWiz</title>
		<link>http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/11/tavis-smiley-black-bloggers-second-class-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-14017</link>
		<dc:creator>KWiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a particular opinion about the matter (although I stopped with Tavis after Tavis insisted Obama attend his &quot;State of the Black Union&quot; this past year), but I did want you to know that you have a typo in the letter.  You said,

&quot;I, addition, the random drawing implies that bloggers are fungible...&quot;  

Of course, &quot;I,&quot; should say &quot;In&quot;...

Thank you for your thoughtfulness and for taking a stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a particular opinion about the matter (although I stopped with Tavis after Tavis insisted Obama attend his &#8220;State of the Black Union&#8221; this past year), but I did want you to know that you have a typo in the letter.  You said,</p>
<p>&#8220;I, addition, the random drawing implies that bloggers are fungible&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Of course, &#8220;I,&#8221; should say &#8220;In&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you for your thoughtfulness and for taking a stand.</p>
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		<title>By: gem2001</title>
		<link>http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/11/tavis-smiley-black-bloggers-second-class-citizens/comment-page-1/#comment-13858</link>
		<dc:creator>gem2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m immensely disappointed that given our personal rapport and constant communication PRIOR to today you did not see fit to communicate with me in this regard…your other concerns. The truth is you’ve known of this contest since October 23rd, I gave you the heads up well in advance. To suggest the blogging community was skirted around is simply untrue. You were the FIRST in the blogging community to know this was coming down the pike.

NEGRO PLEASE. Constant communication? You print your email and I will post mine okay? You told me about a contest for bloggers at which point I told you I was not interested because I.DON&#039;T DO. CONTESTS!!!! One freaking email does not equal &quot;constant communication.&quot; I did not know the terms of the contest . I didn&#039;t know you were going to turn it into some two bit low rent American Idol contest. Nor was I consulted about the roll out. 

Mo&#039; Don&#039;t even try it. First of all, I don&#039;t have any obligation to go behind you and your boss to clean up your mess. Second, I read your contest rules. You admitted that YOUR OWN RULES that YOU DRAFTED were WRONG. That&#039;s not my fault. That is yours. 

Second, don&#039;t yout hink it is a bit patronizing for you to tell me to call YOU about YOUR idiotic contest? I didn&#039;t create the contest. I didn&#039;t draft the rules. I didn&#039;t choose to market it in the manner you chose to market it.  MAN UP Mo and take responsibility for your own bad acts and don&#039;t run up on my blog trying to blame me for your short comings. 

Third Mo&#039; you came in the comments and admitted that you are Tavis&#039; employee, what more indication that you have access to Tavis was needed from me.

I suggest you just take one for the team Mo&#039; I was content to let the matter rest, but if you would like me to return to this subject, I certainly can.

You are just trying to do damage control at this point. You screwed up and embarassed your boss, just take the hit like a man and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m immensely disappointed that given our personal rapport and constant communication PRIOR to today you did not see fit to communicate with me in this regard…your other concerns. The truth is you’ve known of this contest since October 23rd, I gave you the heads up well in advance. To suggest the blogging community was skirted around is simply untrue. You were the FIRST in the blogging community to know this was coming down the pike.</p>
<p>NEGRO PLEASE. Constant communication? You print your email and I will post mine okay? You told me about a contest for bloggers at which point I told you I was not interested because I.DON&#8217;T DO. CONTESTS!!!! One freaking email does not equal &#8220;constant communication.&#8221; I did not know the terms of the contest . I didn&#8217;t know you were going to turn it into some two bit low rent American Idol contest. Nor was I consulted about the roll out. </p>
<p>Mo&#8217; Don&#8217;t even try it. First of all, I don&#8217;t have any obligation to go behind you and your boss to clean up your mess. Second, I read your contest rules. You admitted that YOUR OWN RULES that YOU DRAFTED were WRONG. That&#8217;s not my fault. That is yours. </p>
<p>Second, don&#8217;t yout hink it is a bit patronizing for you to tell me to call YOU about YOUR idiotic contest? I didn&#8217;t create the contest. I didn&#8217;t draft the rules. I didn&#8217;t choose to market it in the manner you chose to market it.  MAN UP Mo and take responsibility for your own bad acts and don&#8217;t run up on my blog trying to blame me for your short comings. </p>
<p>Third Mo&#8217; you came in the comments and admitted that you are Tavis&#8217; employee, what more indication that you have access to Tavis was needed from me.</p>
<p>I suggest you just take one for the team Mo&#8217; I was content to let the matter rest, but if you would like me to return to this subject, I certainly can.</p>
<p>You are just trying to do damage control at this point. You screwed up and embarassed your boss, just take the hit like a man and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Morris W. O'Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morris W. O'Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you could have credentialed bloggers like any other type of media. I am sure the Washington Post didn’t have to do a frigging essay. Every post we write is an essay. I know your intentions were good Mo’, but this contest is very patronizing. Sorry :(
_______________

Bloggers are credentialed...if you look at the registration portion of the site, you would&#039;ve seen this.  The Washington Post isn&#039;t even invited...just FYI.

Did anyone check the registration portion of the SOBU site?  If so, you would&#039;ve seen that when &quot;press&quot; registered, it also asked if you were a blogger...to be included, not excluded.

There&#039;s nothing wrong with raising these issues, I just implore you to be accurate in the process of doing so.

Or better yet, if you would&#039;ve asked me...you would&#039;ve been clear on this so there would&#039;ve been no further misunderstanding.  You already have my cell phone and email Gina.  In fact, since you posted this letter, we&#039;ve emailed each other.

I&#039;m immensely disappointed that given our personal rapport and constant communication PRIOR to today you did not see fit to communicate with me in this regard...your other concerns.  The truth is you&#039;ve known of this contest since October 23rd, I gave you the heads up well in advance.  To suggest the blogging community was skirted around is simply untrue.  You were the FIRST in the blogging community to know this was coming down the pike.

To suggest that somehow bloggers are being INTENTIONALLY slighted is simply untrue.

Not only that, to have a direct line to Tavis through me and not acknowledge that to your readers in terms of this discussion is disingenuous.  If this is broken, we can work together to fix it.  

And since we don&#039;t pay ANY of the panelists, from Dr. Cornel West on down...it&#039;s more than &quot;odd&quot; to suggest that we pay bloggers &quot;a fair wage.&quot;  Nobody is getting pimped here.

We&#039;re treating bloggers the same (and in many respects BETTER) than everyone else involved.

If you had questions in that regard, I surely could&#039;ve clarified them for you.

I get the sense this isn&#039;t about communication or discussion as evidence by how this conversation has proceeded...

But if I&#039;m wrong, you still have my email and cell phone number Gina.

Still love you Gina,

Morris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could have credentialed bloggers like any other type of media. I am sure the Washington Post didn’t have to do a frigging essay. Every post we write is an essay. I know your intentions were good Mo’, but this contest is very patronizing. Sorry <img src='http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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<p>Bloggers are credentialed&#8230;if you look at the registration portion of the site, you would&#8217;ve seen this.  The Washington Post isn&#8217;t even invited&#8230;just FYI.</p>
<p>Did anyone check the registration portion of the SOBU site?  If so, you would&#8217;ve seen that when &#8220;press&#8221; registered, it also asked if you were a blogger&#8230;to be included, not excluded.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with raising these issues, I just implore you to be accurate in the process of doing so.</p>
<p>Or better yet, if you would&#8217;ve asked me&#8230;you would&#8217;ve been clear on this so there would&#8217;ve been no further misunderstanding.  You already have my cell phone and email Gina.  In fact, since you posted this letter, we&#8217;ve emailed each other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m immensely disappointed that given our personal rapport and constant communication PRIOR to today you did not see fit to communicate with me in this regard&#8230;your other concerns.  The truth is you&#8217;ve known of this contest since October 23rd, I gave you the heads up well in advance.  To suggest the blogging community was skirted around is simply untrue.  You were the FIRST in the blogging community to know this was coming down the pike.</p>
<p>To suggest that somehow bloggers are being INTENTIONALLY slighted is simply untrue.</p>
<p>Not only that, to have a direct line to Tavis through me and not acknowledge that to your readers in terms of this discussion is disingenuous.  If this is broken, we can work together to fix it.  </p>
<p>And since we don&#8217;t pay ANY of the panelists, from Dr. Cornel West on down&#8230;it&#8217;s more than &#8220;odd&#8221; to suggest that we pay bloggers &#8220;a fair wage.&#8221;  Nobody is getting pimped here.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re treating bloggers the same (and in many respects BETTER) than everyone else involved.</p>
<p>If you had questions in that regard, I surely could&#8217;ve clarified them for you.</p>
<p>I get the sense this isn&#8217;t about communication or discussion as evidence by how this conversation has proceeded&#8230;</p>
<p>But if I&#8217;m wrong, you still have my email and cell phone number Gina.</p>
<p>Still love you Gina,</p>
<p>Morris</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yvonne C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we have on the web are some of the best written and informative blogs out there. I love that so many blogs tell the truth and don&#039;t hold anything back. It&#039;s a shame that so many people don&#039;t have internet access because the blogs would be a valuable asset for real dialogue and action. They (CRIC) might use technology now, but their ideas and goals are antiquated.

Seems to me that Tavis is employing the old &#039;Crabs in the barrel&#039; mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we have on the web are some of the best written and informative blogs out there. I love that so many blogs tell the truth and don&#8217;t hold anything back. It&#8217;s a shame that so many people don&#8217;t have internet access because the blogs would be a valuable asset for real dialogue and action. They (CRIC) might use technology now, but their ideas and goals are antiquated.</p>
<p>Seems to me that Tavis is employing the old &#8216;Crabs in the barrel&#8217; mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: elledub</title>
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		<dc:creator>elledub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the biggest problem with all this is that he has no idea how blogs and social media works if he wants to single my ass out...if i wanted to ask dick gregory a question at an address i would do it when he comes to my alma mater to speak (and he has).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the biggest problem with all this is that he has no idea how blogs and social media works if he wants to single my ass out&#8230;if i wanted to ask dick gregory a question at an address i would do it when he comes to my alma mater to speak (and he has).</p>
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		<title>By: Sista GP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sista GP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t watched a complete episode of Tavis&#039; show in years.  I have gotten bored before completion, but I can read blogs all day if I had the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t watched a complete episode of Tavis&#8217; show in years.  I have gotten bored before completion, but I can read blogs all day if I had the time.</p>
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