Comments on: Michelle Obama and Barack Resign Church: Rev. A. Larm Clock Sr. Responds

By: wilfrido

wilfrido — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:45:00 +0000

I agree that the US Catholic molestation scandal was terrible, and that some leaders proved to be unworthy – we got a right to be angry. But you got to recall that every child ministry draws predators and that goes for Boy Scouts, School Teachers,Ministers, Counselors,Big Brother/Big Sister — you name it, the stats on leader deviance in these groups is same rate as the priests. Only good thing I can say is that alot of bad priests got found out and now Catholic parents with brains put no priest or Youth Minister on a pedestal like before.

Rhonda, I speak from my heart when I say I hope you can be a Catholic again. I say that because
Jesus Christ comes to be my Sacrifice, Guest, and Food at his Altar…and I can go to Him with brothers and sisters every morning.

By: RhondaCoca

RhondaCoca — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:55:00 +0000

Wilfrido,

I am sick of the Catholic church because I find them to be hypocritical despite the fact that I was raised Catholic.

Listen, why did the Catholic church cover for sexual molesters. Three of the altar children at my church were victims. The archdiocese covered for the priests. Why didn't they use all of their power then?

The hypocrisy is something that I cannot take. Their motives are obvious. They were out to get the man for years and they found an excuse.

By: wilfrido

wilfrido — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:29:00 +0000

Rhonda,
I’m glad I can speak as Catholic to Catholic with you for a moment, The Roman Catholic Church is a hierarchical Church that teaches St. Peter and all Apostles received their authority from Christ. The Church next teaches that our Bishops are the rightful successors of the Apostles. Fr Pfleger has received from his Bishop the instruction to rest, reflect and to refrain from the pastorate for 2 weeks. If you are a Roman Catholic you will grant that Francis Cardinal George had the godly authority to tell Fr Michael to do this. You may disagree but Cardinal George is Christ’s top authority in the Church in the archdiocese of Chicago. I hope you agree that a congregationalist understanding cannot be called a real Roman Catholic theology.
Yes I agree with you that the Media have no authority to judge Fr Michael Pfleger or St. Sabina’s — they have no power in the church. Pastors/Priests are ordained by Bishops — not pundits.

By: RhondaCoca

RhondaCoca — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:05:00 +0000

Wilfrido-

Yea, I remember how delusional blacks were running down the Clintons...ha!

They were looking to get Pfleger for a long, long time. He has made a lot of comments in regards to this election from January February...he was very vocal when the media tore down Wright. The media was also following him then.

Is it safe to say that the media has no business in the people's church? Lets get real!

"That's not in the job-description of a Catholic priest, a Minister, Imam, or Rabbi."

I love how people are defining the jobs of these people when they FEEL LIKE. I'm Catholic too!!!!!!

By: wilfrido

wilfrido — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:44:00 +0000

Rhonda, nobody said a thing about being “in love with the Clintons” — I said lots of us loved them in the 90s and that’s the God’s truth. Bill lifted us up and we had his back when the hypocrites came to bring him down (I’m 52 — I remember)… Let the world deny it, you middle aged folks all know it is so. I don’t disrespect Fr Pfleger, I’m Catholic myself, and he has done so much in his ministry. I was probably been emotional to blame him as much as I did — its just that he showed a bad temper and bad timing in way he cut Hillary, hurting her & Barack right before his final victory. That’s not in the job-description of a Catholic priest, a Minister, Imam, or Rabbi.

By: RhondaCoca

RhondaCoca — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:13:00 +0000

I meant to say that,

I am very mixed with this decision. I will however blame the media.

I am particulary upset with the fact that the white mainstream media was able to get away with mocking and distorting a black institution. The cultural ignorance that is passed off as journalism is simply astounding. Nevertheless, it is not new

By: RhondaCoca

RhondaCoca — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:10:00 +0000

Wilfrido-

Whatever you have to say is irrelevant to me because you obviously know very little about Rev. Michael Pfleger yet you feel the need to disrespect him? I never was in love with the Clintons. You can continue to feel as if you owe them something however I do not.

I am very mixed when with this decision. I will however blame the media.

By: wilfrido

wilfrido — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:16:00 +0000

I feel bad for Barack, Michelle & the girls still… But do you know another family I feel bad for (I hate to say it aloud for fear of people hating on me) — I feel sorry for Bill and Hillary Clinton. I feel our memory’s too short. Nobody’s perfect but Bill Clinton was someone we once loved and lost sight of. He gathered $200,000 plus into retail and restaurants and housing in Harlem, and all I hear is B.S. about him now. Isn’t it awful that we
just roll over with every tide? that’s from the heart okay?
Wilfrido

By: DROCK

DROCK — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:38:00 +0000

I like Obama, but this whole church thing is a mess. He was a member for 20 long years!!! He knew how Rev. Wright was but he stayed. He is not responsible for every guest preacher that steps up on stage. By him annoucing his departure, and making statments everytime somebody gets up there talking bad about Billary (even if what they say is true), it is making him look bad. It’s like he threw his church under the bus….

By: cinco

cinco — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:10:00 +0000

To resign from one’s church…

He should just do it until he receives the Presidency. Then the issues that really matter in the world will be on the frontline…or at least anyone that still cares about this issue probably wont be in a position to ‘do anything’ about it.